Explaining Romo's sack

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Yes, Orton, being a backup QB, most likely would have taken the check down.

Guess what, Brad Johnson would have taken the check down too. Somehow in the warped mind of Romo stans, I now want Brad Johnson to start over Romo lol.

Maybe Orton would have read the play differently and taken the checkdown as his first option, but I doubt it since the play call is designed a certain way. Technically, the QBs should be seeing the same things and making the same reads.

The reads on that play (looking at the video) apparently were to look to the three-receiver overload on the right side first against that alignment, then Bryant, then the checkdown. Then, he went back through his reads and was going to throw to Witten. If Orton wasn't on the same page in the playbook, the two need to talk.
 

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The "unrealistic expectations" line is not going to work for the 100M dollar man anymore. Neither is the "oline excuse" if things continue to progress with that group.

And this is what I was referring to when I said, "When people "criticize" Romo, most of the time it's about stupid petty stuff". Last year we had one of the worst o-lines in the NFL, yet you think it's just an "excuse" for Romo why we played poorly in the RZ. Are you serious? I honestly can't tell if you're just trolling now.

The reason people are being critical of him on that play is mainly due to the fact he had plenty of time yet still did not make the correct decisions. You can keep mentioning his stat line over and over, all I care about is points.

Right ... Because we all know stats don't prove/back-up points.
You're making your self seem like a whiny kid who's saying, "No I don't want listen to your stats (6-8 88 yards) about what Romo did, I want to focus on the one bad play he had."

Still not sure if you're trolling or if you're actually serious, I honestly hope you're trolling ...

Romo proved a long time ago that he can move the ball between the 20s. I don't care about that if it keeps leading to field goals.

I would love to hear your opinion why we struggled last year in the RZ. I'm sure our bottom ranked o-line and 31st rushing had nothing to do with it. That darn Romo, he should've played better at o-line/running back.
 

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And this is what I was referring to when I said, "When people "criticize" Romo, most of the time it's about stupid petty stuff". Last year we had one of the worst o-lines in the NFL, yet you think it's just an "excuse" for Romo why we played poorly in the RZ. Are you serious? I honestly can't tell if you're just trolling now.



Right ... Because we all know stats don't prove/back-up points.
You're making your self seem like a whiny kid who's saying, "No I don't want listen to your stats (6-8 88 yards) about what Romo did, I want to focus on the one bad play he had."

Still not sure if you're trolling or if you're actually serious, I honestly hope you're trolling ...



I would love to hear your opinion why we struggled last year in the RZ. I'm sure our bottom ranked o-line and 31st rushing had nothing to do with it. That darn Romo, he should've played better at o-line/running back.

Take a gander at Green Bay and their QB. Sacked 16 more times than Romo and didn't exactly have an awesome running game ranked at 20.

They finished 11-5. What was our record again?

I'm not saying the OL isn't a problem, but clearly if the QB is good enough the team can go places.
 

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It looked like to me Murray was pretty open but even if the linebacker would have gotten to him it doesn't bode well for the offense. Another squandered opportunity for the offense.
 

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It looked like to me Murray was pretty open but even if the linebacker would have gotten to him it doesn't bode well for the offense. Another squandered opportunity for the offense.

Agree Murray was the correct option

Romo needs parcels with that horn after 3sevonds to get that back.

I think romo has lost confidence to throw the ball into tight windows like Rodgers and manning do and too many times is looking for wide open guys.

I don't reember too many times recently where I thought he threw a pass to a covered guy that only his wr could get the ball
 

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Romo should be throwing the ball away instead of taking a rookie sack like that. I guess at this point there is no hope in him changing his ways, he is the type of player who always thinks he can make a play. He is what he is....

totaly agree...watch Romo before the sack.... and Murray totaly free on the left side!
 

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Take a gander at Green Bay and their QB. Sacked 16 more times than Romo and didn't exactly have an awesome running game ranked at 20.

They finished 11-5. What was our record again?

I'm not saying the OL isn't a problem, but clearly if the QB is good enough the team can go places.

Yeah, let's just totally neglect the defenses of the two teams in question. We've all seen what happens to Rodgers and the Packers when their D doesn't come to play.
 

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Maybe Orton would have read the play differently and taken the checkdown as his first option, but I doubt it since the play call is designed a certain way. Technically, the QBs should be seeing the same things and making the same reads.

The reads on that play (looking at the video) apparently were to look to the three-receiver overload on the right side first against that alignment, then Bryant, then the checkdown. Then, he went back through his reads and was going to throw to Witten. If Orton wasn't on the same page in the playbook, the two need to talk.

He made the right reads, he was just too hesitant to let the ball go. He made the safety bite so why didn't he launch it to Dez? I think he realized in that millisecond that he missed an opportunity there with Dez and tried to get it back so that's why he didn't take the next best option in getting 7-8 yds from Demarco. Am I being too hard on our 100M qb for asking these questions?
 

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The fact that we're going on and on over Romo taking a sack in a preseason game instead of throwing it away speaks to how spoiled we have become. As one of "the usual suspects" :rolleyes: who defend Romo, I'll gladly say that it was not a good play on Romo's part. That was obvious. Like many "Romo defenders" (or whatever) I know, like every QB, he makes mistakes. Despite the Jedi-like plays he often pulls off, I do believe he is human. In his first preseason action this year, he reacted more slowly than he should have. Oh no! Heaven forbid he get rid of a little rust like the other players. He seemed pretty sharp with his throws to Bryant an Austin and had a decent, brief appearance in the game overall. Penalties certainly didn't help his (or the offense's) cause in the game. Regardless, he did not make the best decision on that play. The guy is the 5th highest rated QB in the history of football because he consistently makes many more good decisions/plays than bad ones. Those are simply the facts. You know you're used to a very high level of play from your QB when you find yourself scrutinizing a sack in the first preseason game he has played this year. I'm just happy that he had so much time! Throw in an improved running game and I think we'll have a very good offense - even if the QB takes a random sack once in a while.
 

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The fact that we're going on and on over Romo taking a sack in a preseason game instead of throwing it away speaks to how spoiled we have become. As one of "the usual suspects" :rolleyes: who defend Romo, I'll gladly say that it was not a good play on Romo's part. That was obvious. Like many "Romo defenders" (or whatever) I know, like every QB, he makes mistakes. Despite the Jedi-like plays he often pulls off, I do believe he is human. In his first preseason action this year, he reacted more slowly than he should have. Oh no! Heaven forbid he get rid of a little rust like the other players. He seemed pretty sharp with his throws to Bryant an Austin and had a decent, brief appearance in the game overall. Penalties certainly didn't help his (or the offense's) cause in the game. Regardless, he did not make the best decision on that play. The guy is the 5th highest rated QB in the history of football because he consistently makes many more good decisions/plays than bad ones. Those are simply the facts. You know you're used to a very high level of play from your QB when you find yourself scrutinizing a sack in the first preseason game he has played this year. I'm just happy that he had so much time! Throw in an improved running game and I think we'll have a very good offense - even if the QB takes a random sack once in a while.

Well said.
 

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This thread bothers me because apparently now I'm a 'Romo Stan,' which sounds really terrible, and I have absolutely no idea what it even means. But, since I have zero problem with him giving up a coverage sack in a preseason game, it's pretty clear that I am one. I guess you guys can start calling me that now. I won't deny it.
 

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Romo Stans unite! Seriously though, a 4 page breakdown of a game 1 preseason sack? Get a hobby Romo obsessors,geez. or complain about the weather, its the same thing basically.
 

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This thread bothers me because apparently now I'm a 'Romo Stan,' which sounds really terrible, and I have absolutely no idea what it even means. But, since I have zero problem with him giving up a coverage sack in a preseason game, it's pretty clear that I am one. I guess you guys can start calling me that now. I won't deny it.

Look up "Eminem Stan"
 

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And this is what I was referring to when I said, "When people "criticize" Romo, most of the time it's about stupid petty stuff". Last year we had one of the worst o-lines in the NFL, yet you think it's just an "excuse" for Romo why we played poorly in the RZ. Are you serious? I honestly can't tell if you're just trolling now.



Right ... Because we all know stats don't prove/back-up points.
You're making your self seem like a whiny kid who's saying, "No I don't want listen to your stats (6-8 88 yards) about what Romo did, I want to focus on the one bad play he had."

Still not sure if you're trolling or if you're actually serious, I honestly hope you're trolling ...



I would love to hear your opinion why we struggled last year in the RZ. I'm sure our bottom ranked o-line and 31st rushing had nothing to do with it. That darn Romo, he should've played better at o-line/running back.
Let me be clear, the majority of the red zone problems is due to this pathetic oline Jerry has assembled over the years. Secondly, I place blame on Jason for his mind numbing play calling at times. Lastly, a sliver of blame goes to Romo. I don't think he's an elite red zone QB. Just my opinion, stone me to death if you want. Like one of the posters above mentioned I don't think passing into tight spaces is his strong suit. Also his inability to throw the fade consistently neutralizes one of his biggest threats, Dez.
 

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Let me be clear, the majority of the red zone problems is due to this pathetic oline Jerry has assembled over the years. Secondly, I place blame on Jason for his mind numbing play calling at times. Lastly, a sliver of blame goes to Romo. I don't think he's an elite red zone QB. Just my opinion, stone me to death if you want. Like one of the posters above mentioned I don't think passing into tight spaces is his strong suit. Also his inability to throw the fade consistently neutralizes one of his biggest threats, Dez.

Why do Romo haters such as yourself, take EVERY opportunity to slam him for one play after he had a decent game? It's so predictable. Your sole existence, it seems, is to bash Romo every chance you get.
 

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Why do Romo haters such as yourself, take EVERY opportunity to slam him for one play after he had a decent game? It's so predictable. Your sole existence, it seems, is to bash Romo every chance you get.
Wow..Exhibit A of what I'm talking about. Did you even read my previous post?
 

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I've read plenty of your posts. That's why I posted what I did.
Ok why do the Romo stans take it as "bashing" instead of "criticism"?

Are the coaches "bashing" Romo when they tell him the same things in the film room on Monday?
 

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Ok why do the Romo stans take it as "bashing" instead of "criticism"?

Are the coaches "bashing" Romo when they tell him the same things in the film room on Monday?

I'm just pointing out your incessant desire to criticize/bash Romo. You do it, so you have to live with the repercussions.
 
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