Explaining Romo's sack

[dstovall5]

Take a gander at Green Bay and their QB. Sacked 16 more times than Romo and didn't exactly have an awesome running game ranked at 20.

They finished 11-5. What was our record again?

Last time I checked, being ranked 20th in rushing is a lot better than being ranked 31st.
If you honestly don't think 20th to 31st is a noticeable difference, then that's borderline isanity.
Also, Green bay had 20 more possessions then Dallas Cowboys due to turnover differential, that makes a difference, right? Green Bay's defense also gave up 4 points less then the Dallas Cowboys ... each game. That's also a huge difference.

Just for the heck of it I went back to last year games and took away 4 points from each of our oppossing oponents. Our record would've jumped from 8-8 to 10-6 by factoring in the 4 points, gee what a big difference 4 points can be.

They finished 11-5. What was our record again?

8-8 ... So what you're telling me is a team with a better defense, better running game, and better QB finished with a better record then us. Ok? What is your point? It seems your getting at that Aaron Rodgers is better then Tony Romo. If that's what you're getting at, then you're right. But guess what, he's also better then Brady and every other QB in this league. And if keeps up his pace he will go down as one of the best QBs in history, if not the best one.

I'm not saying the OL isn't a problem, but clearly if the QB is good enough the team can go places.

Ok. So do you think that Romo's not good enough? Please feel me in on the QBs who would've led this team to the playoffs last year, not a hard question I'm just honestly curious as to which QBs you think are "good enough".

 

[03EBZ06]

Just imagine uproar it would have caused had Romo threw an INT instead of taking a sack, lol.

I do agree that that Romo held the ball bit long.

 

[Zordon]

I'm just pointing out your incessant desire to criticize/bash Romo. You do it, so you have to live with the repercussions.

What are the repercussions? Am i placed in timeout in Romo Land?

C'mon man you're being too sensitive. I haven't even gone too hard on Romo like that.

 

[Rockport]

What are the repercussions? Am i placed in timeout in Romo Land?

C'mon man you're being too sensitive. I haven't even gone too hard on Romo like that.

The repercussions are being called out for your single minded existence of slamming Romo every chance you get.

 

[dstovall5]

Let me be clear, the majority of the red zone problems is due to this pathetic oline Jerry has assembled over the years. Secondly, I place blame on Jason for his mind numbing play calling at times. Lastly, a sliver of blame goes to Romo. I don't think he's an elite red zone QB. Just my opinion, stone me to death if you want. Like one of the posters above mentioned I don't think passing into tight spaces is his strong suit. Also his inability to throw the fade consistently neutralizes one of his biggest threats, Dez.

I never said Romo doesn't deserve blame, I just said a lot "criticism" of him on these forums are about "stupid petty stuff". Also, I don't think anyone has ever said Romo is an elite RZ QB either, but I do believe Romo is a very good QB in the RZ - 14 TDs to 2 Ints in the redzone last year. If anyone is complaining about Romo in the RZ, then they're obviously being a hater or just unreasonable. And yes, Romo does have flaws, but so does every other QB in this league.

 

[Zordon]

The repercussions are being called out for your single minded existence of slamming Romo every chance you get.

"slamming Romo every chance you get"

"hater"

"troll"

These are the types of phrases that have taken over the lexicon of the Romo stan on this site.

 

[Rockport]

"slamming Romo every chance you get"

"hater"

"troll"

These are the types of phrases that have taken over the lexicon of the Romo stan on this site.

Only to those such as yourself who disregard the good Romo does and instead get their jollies by pointing out every single questionable Romo play. Definitely troll like behavior and surely constitutes you as being a bona fide Romo hater.

 

[Zordon]

I never said Romo doesn't deserve blame, I just said a lot "criticism" of him on these forums are about "stupid petty stuff". Also, I don't think anyone has ever said Romo is an elite RZ QB either, but I do believe Romo is a very good QB in the RZ - 14 TDs to 2 Ints in the redzone last year. If anyone is complaining about Romo in the RZ, then they're obviously being a hater or just unreasonable. And yes, Romo does have flaws, but so does every other QB in this league.

Ok but we only scored TDs 50% of the time in the red zone, ranked 20th in the NFL. 2011 we were ranked 20th as well at 49%. There are obviously red zone issues that need to be addressed. Just saying 14 TDs and 2 INTS doesn't give the whole story. Romo doesn't deserve all the blame but he deserves some. He needs to trust Dez more, use his feet more when given the opportunity, and improve the fade pass.

 

[dstovall5]

This thread bothers me because apparently now I'm a 'Romo Stan,' which sounds really terrible, and I have absolutely no idea what it even means. But, since I have zero problem with him giving up a coverage sack in a preseason game, it's pretty clear that I am one. I guess you guys can start calling me that now. I won't deny it.

Welcome to the "Romo Stan" club! I got initiated yesterday! You're only allowed to "criticize" Romo here, if you speak anything positive about Romo you're instantly initiated to "Romo Stan" status. And if you speak of "Romo haters" you're instantly accused of creating an "imaginary enemy", because we all know there are no "Romo haters", just only people who "criticize" him.

 

[skinsscalper]

"Some kind of a play" other than a sack.

Yes because Romo is the only QB in the league that ever takes that kind of sack.

 

[Zordon]

Welcome to the "Romo Stan" club! I got initiated yesterday! You're only allowed to "criticize" Romo here, if you speak anything positive about Romo you're instantly initiated to "Romo Stan" status. And if you speak of "Romo haters" you're instantly accused of creating an "imaginary enemy", because we all know there are no "Romo haters", just only people who "criticize" him.

Checked the first two pages of the Fan Zone, only one thread criticizing Romo. 1 out of 50 threads. Oh the horror!

Like I said imaginary foe (at least on this site).

 

[pancakeman]

Only to those such as yourself who disregard the good Romo does and instead get their jollies by pointing out every single questionable Romo play. Definitely troll like behavior and surely constitutes you as being a bona fide Romo hater.

May I recommend the 'ignore' feature? It works great--I have no idea whom you're arguing against!

 

[BAT]

Aaron Rodgers has the highest QB rating in NFL history partially because he <chooses> to take sacks exactly like this instead of attempting low percentage passes.

It's a helleva better than an INT.

This! /thread

 

[dstovall5]

Ok but we only scored TDs 50% of the time in the red zone, ranked 20th in the NFL. 2011 we were ranked 20th as well at 49%. There are obviously red zone issues that need to be addressed. Just saying 14 TDs and 2 INTS doesn't give the whole story. Romo doesn't deserve all the blame but he deserves some.

And the nit picking continues with Romo ... You're right, 14 TDs and 2 INTs doesn't give the whole story ... about the team in the RZ. All it does is show that Romo isn't the problem in the darn RZ. And you wonder why people claim you as a "Romo hater" ...

Also you're saying he deserves "some blame". Alrighty, how much in your opinion should Romo be credited for our RZ performance this past year? 10%? 25%? 50%? You said he deserves "some blame", so how much?

 

[Zordon]

And the nit picking continues with Romo ... You're right, 14 TDs and 2 INTs doesn't give the whole story ... about the team in the RZ. All it does is show that Romo isn't the problem in the darn RZ. And you wonder why people claim you as a "Romo hater" ...

Also you're saying he deserves "some blame". Alrighty, how much in your opinion should Romo be credited for our RZ performance this past year? 10%? 25%? 50%? You said he deserves "some blame", so how much?

The reason I say you're not giving the whole story is because '14 TDs, 2 INTS' doesn't tell us how many opportunities he had to achieve those numbers nor does it show a comparison to other QBs around the league.

Romo ranked 22nd among all QBs in the NFL last year in QB rating in the red zone. This is a better way of judging Romo than just throwing out 14 TDs, 2 INTs.

 

[Rockport]

The reason I say you're not giving the whole story is because '14 TDs, 2 INTS' doesn't tell us how many opportunities he had to achieve those numbers nor does it show a comparison to other QBs around the league.

Romo ranked 22nd among all QBs in the NFL last year in QB rating in the red zone. This is a better way of judging Romo than just throwing out 14 TDs, 2 INTs.

If you understood football you'd know that to be effective in the red zone you need a consistent running game. When teams know you can't run, Dallas was rated 31st last year, they don't have to worry about stopping the run and can instead call defensive plays geared towards stopping the pass.

 

[Zordon]

If you understood football you'd know that to be effective in the red zone you need a consistent running game. When teams know you can't run, Dallas was rated 31st last year, they don't have to worry about stopping the run and can instead call defensive plays geared towards stopping the pass.

AmberBeer, I'm going to ask you to stop quoting me until you go back and read my posts in this thread. I said first and foremost I blame Jerry for the redzone woes. How many times and in how many languages do I have to write this for you to get it thru your brain. The majority of the blame goes on Jerry for the destruction of the oline. Do you think I started the "Anti-Jerry" AVI movement for no reason? I blame him and oline for the majority of the problems. Got it?

 

[Rockport]

AmberBeer, I'm going to ask you to stop quoting me until you go back and read my posts in this thread. I said first and foremost I blame Jerry for the redzone woes. How many times and in how many languages do I have to write this for you to get it thru your brain. The majority of the blame goes on Jerry for the destruction of the oline. Do you think I started the "Anti-Jerry" AVI movement for no reason? I blame him and oline for the majority of the problems. Got it?

Yet you bring up Romo's red zone QB ratings. Can't have it both ways. Got it?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Why do we need to explain a sack? He took one. It was bad. I'm more focused on the amount of time he had to sit back and throw.

 

[Zordon]

Yet you bring up Romo's red zone QB ratings. Can't have it both ways. Got it?

I brought up the QB ratings to show @dstovall5 how it's worthless to throw out "14 tds, 2 ints" as some sort of defense of Romo's red zone capabilities. His QBR was ranked in the bottom third of the league. And yes you can have it both ways. Believe it or not Romo isn't the only one playing behind a porous oline. Most people would argue that the Bears is the worst yet Cutler still had a very high QBR in the red zone.