Twitter: Ezekiel Elliott narrows his team options

[Joe Realist]

1 year, 2 million for someone

 

[DoctorChicken]

Dude was a god among men. Then he held out, got his money, got fat and lazy and his production fell off a cliff. It all unfolded right in front of you and was as plain as day to see. Anyone remember what he looked like when his best bud got hurt? I sure do. When we needed him the most he turned into a pouty fumble machine. I will give hium credit for the times that he was great but I will not make excuses for him after he packed it in and fell off a cliff.

1 - I don’t think he got fat and lazy, he wore out the way the 99% of RBs not named Emmitt Smith and Frank Gore generally do. He still put in an enormous amount of work.

2 - his fumbles didn’t increase at all

 

[Kwyn]

Zeke or tattoo judgement? Both topics suck but people won't stop talking about them.

Well, the same posters who hate on tattoos are the same posters who hate on Zeke and Lawrence and Dak and … you get it.

Ancient, sitting on their porch, 8 beers into their 12 pack, retirees remembering the glory days when real men only had a tattoo of an anchor or “mom” and climbed over bodies at Iwo Jima before they found found NFL religion by way of Tom Landry and Roger Staubach.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I think if the choice comes down to sitting out an entire season or playing for some crap team I believe he plays. Guys who truly love the game have to be carried away from it on their shield so to speak. I believe Zeke is that sort of player. The only way he doesn't play is if his body starts to tell him "You need to go sit down hoss..." Whether that be the knee locking up on him in games or him just being too sore to get out of bed after a couple of practices.. the net effect is the same.. Even when the mind is willing the body always wins out.

I think it would be smart to sign as well, even as #2 (or lower). He can get fresh...but a still receive the benefits the NFL has to offer....namely training and conditioning. Maintain continuity and up his value if things go well.

He's not on this team any more (for now? ) . But I been watching him play for 11+ years. So.....

 

[RonnieT24]

I think it would be smart to sign as well, even as #2 (or lower). He can get fresh...but a still receive the benefits the NFL has to offer....namely training and conditioning. Maintain continuity and up his value if things go well.

He's not on this team any more (for now? ) . But I been watching him play for 11+ years. So.....

This is sound reasoning. I just don't know how much actual healing up he could do if he had to say, go through an NFL training camp or put in all the work he would need to at OTAs and mini-camps. I suppose if he signed a deal that allowed him to skip all that and work off to the side that could be a solution. It'll be interesting how it plays out. If he's healthy and the knee is truly healed up then I would like to see him play. But if that thing is still bothering him he would be better served to sit.. Come back in-season when some contender loses its RB1 or RB2. Come in fresh and wreck shop.. That would be fun..

 

[RonnieT24]

1 - I don’t think he got fat and lazy, he wore out the way the 99% of RBs not named Emmitt Smith and Frank Gore generally do. He still put in an enormous amount of work.

2 - his fumbles didn’t increase at all

He had one 8-10 game stretch in 2020 post covid when he fumbled a lot. If I'm not mistaken he has had one fumble since the Thanksgiving Day game in 2020. 40+ games.. 1 fumble. Including ZERO in 2022. The notion that Zeke became a fumbler after the contract is about as valid the notion that he "stopped caring." Dude played 12 games in pain because of torn ligament in his knee and repeatedly threw his body into people 50-100 pounds or more heavier than he to protect his QB. "But he didn't care.." Please G T_F O_H!!!

 

[Streifenkarl]

Well, the same posters who hate on tattoos are the same posters who hate on Zeke and Lawrence and Dak and … you get it.

Ancient, sitting on their porch, 8 beers into their 12 pack, retirees remembering the glory days when real men only had a tattoo of an anchor or “mom” and climbed over bodies at Iwo Jima before they found found NFL religion by way of Tom Landry and Roger Staubach.

Well I'm not exactly looking forward to getting older in general and I'm probably about 40 years younger than the people you're talking about here, but I fail to see the negative in what you've described. Sounds like fun.

Now get off my lawn!

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

This is sound reasoning. I just don't know how much actual healing up he could do if he had to say, go through an NFL training camp or put in all the work he would need to at OTAs and mini-camps. I suppose if he signed a deal that allowed him to skip all that and work off to the side that could be a solution. It'll be interesting how it plays out. If he's healthy and the knee is truly healed up then I would like to see him play. But if that thing is still bothering him he would be better served to sit.. Come back in-season when some contender loses its RB1 or RB2. Come in fresh and wreck shop.. That would be fun..

I should have said "if fully healed up". Some rest wouldn't hurt....sure! Just make sure he can stay in good shape. Somehow.

 

[Captain-Crash]

don't shoot karens Prius.

 

[khiladi]

Zeke did not suck after signing his contract in 2019. He rushed for 1357 yards and 12 TDs in Moore’s offense, 3 TDs off his 2016 record.

The problem in 2019 was once again Dak’s horrible stretch of play, particularly against the Jet, Patriots, Bills, Saints and Eagles. Against the Packers and Bears, Dak was tossing picks and the team was getting blown out so they had to abandon the run.

That was basically his 4 year window. Then 2020 was a straight disaster and don’t even tell me Dak was good with his 7 TOs in 5 games.

Zeke held out at the right time and if you are going to sit there and claim Dak “earned” his contract being carried by Zeke and the OL, Zeke earned his contract way more than Dak did.

 

[Aviano90]

Dude was a god among men. Then he held out, got his money, got fat and lazy and his production fell off a cliff. It all unfolded right in front of you and was as plain as day to see. Anyone remember what he looked like when his best bud got hurt? I sure do. When we needed him the most he turned into a pouty fumble machine. I will give hium credit for the times that he was great but I will not make excuses for him after he packed it in and fell off a cliff.

I’ll give a different perspective. Zeke didn’t get fat and lazy. He came into rookie camp overweight and was whining about having to wake up on the 2nd day of camp. Zeke started his career off lazy. He would come into camp having gained weight, do little work during training camp/pre-season, and then work his way into playing shape during the season. Zeke was just that talented to make it work. Then as he started to decline, he started putting in more work. He actually became less lazy but his body had taken the beating of an NFL RB. Similar to Dez who relied on natural ability and didn’t work on his route running and learning the playbook. When his physical skills declined he started working on improving his skills. Was just too late.

it’s my biggest complaint with these two players. They were great. But imagine how good they would have been had they put as much work in early in their careers as they did at the end of their careers.

 

[tunahelper]

1 - I don’t think he got fat and lazy, he wore out the way the 99% of RBs not named Emmitt Smith and Frank Gore generally do. He still put in an enormous amount of work.

2 - his fumbles didn’t increase at all

I get your point, but at year 8 Emmitt still produced 5 straight seasons of 1000 or more yards. Elliott can no longer produce at the same or near same level he once was.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I get your point, but at year 8 Emmitt still produced 5 straight seasons of 1000 or more yards. Elliott can no longer produce at the same or near same level he once was.

"he once was". Like the most amazing rookie year ever? two time (should have been three in a row) rushing champ? That's the bar you want him to meet and beat every season?

He's been injured the last two years. Get him some rest and healthy...he can still be a good rb.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I’ll give a different perspective. Zeke didn’t get fat and lazy. He came into rookie camp overweight and was whining about having to wake up on the 2nd day of camp. Zeke started his career off lazy. He would come into camp having gained weight, do little work during training camp/pre-season, and then work his way into playing shape during the season. Zeke was just that talented to make it work. Then as he started to decline, he started putting in more work. He actually became less lazy but his body had taken the beating of an NFL RB. Similar to Dez who relied on natural ability and didn’t work on his route running and learning the playbook. When his physical skills declined he started working on improving his skills. Was just too late.

it’s my biggest complaint with these two players. They were great. But imagine how good they would have been had they put as much work in early in their careers as they did at the end of their careers.

All presumptuous conjecture.

You know...for a fact...he did "little work". What because you saw him drinking in a parking lot ina blurry video?

What we have here people...is a PRIME zeke hater. The very definition. Making up stuff in his head...than spewing it like facts.

 

[tunahelper]

"he once was". Like the most amazing rookie year ever? two time (should have been three in a row) rushing champ? That's the bar you want him to meet and beat every season?

He's been injured the last two years. Get him some rest and healthy...he can still be a good rb.

I don't expect him to be what he once was, however he is a shell of his former self. His vision has always been ok, but now he lost burst. Couple that with his lack of breakaway speed and he is just above average RB now.

 

[Aviano90]

All presumptuous conjecture.

You know...for a fact...he did "little work". What because you saw him drinking in a parking lot ina blurry video?

What we have here people...is a PRIME zeke hater. The very definition. Making up stuff in his head...then spewing it like facts.

Triggered Zeke lover.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Triggered Zeke lover.

Okay....you did.

Not by truth but lies.

back at ya.

 

[MyFairLady]

I don't expect him to be what he once was, however he is a shell of his former self. His vision has always been ok, but now he lost burst. Couple that with his lack of breakaway speed and he is just above average RB now.

Above average? That is being pretty generous.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I don't expect him to be what he once was, however he is a shell of his former self. His vision has always been ok, but now he lost burst. Couple that with his lack of breakaway speed and he is just above average RB now.

I can get on with that.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Above average? That is being pretty generous.

When healthy....he is.