FA Spending Correlation With Winning

[Stash]

I am strictly talking Hardy, the player.

And it's not relevant because it was 2 freakin' seasons ago with a different team before a year away from football. A lot crap has happened with Hardy in those years, very little positive. His play in 2015 IS what will be the deciding factor if he's brought back or not, unless he takes a small offer from us.

2015 - FAR MORE relevant than 2013. Do you not agree with this? I'm not sure how you could disagree.

It's absolutely relevant. It's part of the player's established body of work. If you want to talk about the surrounding talent being better in Carolina and contributing to his numbers much like Dallas' surrounding talent affecting him negatively? Sure, I can see that. But his history of pass rushing ability can't simply be discounted or disregarded as "irrelevant".

Crawford didn't disappoint, because I never expected the guy to have double digit sacks. He go the hurries and sacks I expected. We've addressed the Hayden issue, if you haven't been paying attention.

Myself, and many others, expected more of Crawford last year. Injury surely had a negative effect, but the results were below what many had hoped for.

And I'm not focusing on just the "6 sacks" from Hardy, I'm focusing on how he impacted plays consistently. 7 pressures, I actually thought he had more, is pathetic. Even IF he had double teams, if he's the player you are making him out to be, he should still have been far more of an impact player than that. There is no way to pain this in a different light: 6 sacks, 7 hurries from a veteran DE is mediocre.

It's less than what any of us had hoped for, I won't deny that. But again, I will reiterate that he didn't have close to the supporting staff in Dallas that he did in Carolina either.

But let's cut to the chase as we can argue about the other issues all day.

Do you believe this team is more talented with or without Greg Hardy on its' defensive line?

 

[Sydla]

So, it has to be "double digit sacks"? That's what makes an impact? Unbelievable. Go sit down, your infantile brain is about to overload with piss poor arguments.

If a rookie DE is giving you 8-9 sacks, they were an impact player. Ansah, 8 sacks, impact player. His original point that it doesn't happen, end of discussion.

Now, go to bed mental midget.

If you want to throw the insults around have at it.

You're the guy, who year after year defends most of the moves this front office makes or doesn't make then probably lies awake at night wondering, "Gee, why the heck isn't my team winning more"?

The guy who has come up with one defensive end that recorded a solid sack number as a rookie and then drops the mic thinking he's proven people wrong.

Other than that, you've had a great day here.

 

[mattjames2010]

It's absolutely relevant. It's part of the player's established body of work. If you want to talk about the surrounding talent being better in Carolina and contributing to his numbers much like Dallas' surrounding talent affecting him negatively? Sure, I can see that. But his history of pass rushing ability can't simply be discounted or disregarded as "irrelevant".



Myself, and many others, expected more of Crawford last year. Injury surely had a negative effect, but the results were below what many had hoped for.



It's less than what any of us had hoped for, I won't deny that. But again, I will reiterate that he didn't have close to the supporting staff in Dallas that he did in Carolina either.

But let's cut to the chase as we can argue about the other issues all day.

Do you believe this team is more talented with or without Greg Hardy on its' defensive line?

It wasn't irrelevant last off-season when all we had to base his play on was his 2012 and 2013 season, but his 2014 lost season was still a concern. But after a year in our defense? It's irrelevant, you base it on how he did here. It wasn't great, it was barely good. He wasn't the consistent pass rusher we needed.

Myself, and many others, expected more of Crawford last year. Injury surely had a negative effect, but the results were below what many had hoped for.

That's your problem. There was no reason for those expectations, Crawford is a good DT. Nothing more. He got the sacks I expected, single digits. Had double digit hurries. That's how he got paid, and his deal will look fine once these young pro-bowl DTs get paid.

Do you believe this team is more talented with or without Greg Hardy on its' defensive line?

I think Hardy has the potential to give us double digit sack seasons, yes. As I stated earlier, I am not against resigning Hardy because of that. I am not against letting him walk either because of his lackluster performance last year is far more telling than what he did 3 years ago for a different team. I want him back on a short term cheap contract, that's all he's earned with us.

I'm just as happy moving on from Hardy since I expect Lawrence to improve to pick up whatever little Hardy did for us last year.

 

[Stash]

It wasn't irrelevant last off-season when all we had to base his play on was his 2012 and 2013 season, but his 2014 lost season was still a concern. But after a year in our defense? It's irrelevant, you base it on how he did here. It wasn't great, it was barely good. He wasn't the consistent pass rusher we needed.

If you insist on doing that, have at it. Nobody else does.

That's your problem. There was no reason for those expectations, Crawford is a good DT. Nothing more. He got the sacks I expected, single digits. Had double digit hurries. That's how he got paid, and his deal will look fine once these young pro-bowl DTs get paid.

Actually, it's the Cowboys' problem, not mine. I'm not the ones paying a good player great player money.

I think Hardy has the potential to give us double digit sack seasons, yes. As I stated earlier, I am not against resigning Hardy because of that. I am not against letting him walk either because of his lackluster performance last year is far more telling than what he did 3 years ago for a different team. I want him back on a short term cheap contract, that's all he's earned with us.

So then what exactly are you screaming about and wasting everyone's time for?

I'm just as happy moving on from Hardy since I expect Lawrence to improve to pick up whatever little Hardy did for us last year.

I don't. Especially not after back surgery and with a lesser player lined up across from him.

 

[mattjames2010]

If you insist on doing that, have at it. Nobody else does.



Actually, it's the Cowboys' problem, not mine. I'm not the ones paying a good player great player money.



So then what exactly are you screaming about and wasting everyone's time for?



I don't. Especially not after back surgery and with a lesser player lined up across from him.

He's not getting paid great player money. Suh is getting paid great player money, Crawford's contract looks big due to the elite DTs in the league still on rookie contracts. Donald will get paid a crap ton more than Crawford if he continues his big play in the next couple years. But even as it stands, Crawford isn't getting great player money. Simple as that, his contract is reasonable.

 

[coult44]

You haven't said a SINGLE thing in ANY thread to justify your whining. Nothing, you've been taking to the shed and back on your opinion, and you CONTINUE to repeat it. Just. Stop!

"Fairly weak draft for pass rushers" - Dude WHAT are you talking about? "Weak" - No. Not a GREAT pass rushing class, but there are a good amount of quality pass rush prospects. You are whining, still, over a 31 year old pass rusher and a middle of the road RB that you were drooling over.

Lastly: We are in position to take THE top pass rushing prospect in the draft. Yet, you'd still prefer to whine before the draft plays out.

Here is your chance, Sydla. Give me your run down of what we should have done the past few offseasons. Give me the FA you wanted, the draft prospects. I want to see how well your FA pickups have done, how well it would have fit with the cap.

We shouldn't have destroyed the 2014 team for starters.

 

[Idgit]

How about 6 seasons? Or 25?
Keep making those excuses

So tiresome. If all you want to do is complain, have at it.. There's no point discussing with you honestly if you're going to reply with junk. And 25 years goes back to 1991.

The Cowboys have the most wins in the division during the Garrett years, and that includes starting with some bad teams and no room to maneuver under the cap. They've got a specific approach under Garrett, and how effective that is is wide open for discussion. But I can't have that debate if you're incapable of actually engaging and only want to resort to pointless jabs instead of actually addressing the topic for once.

 

[gmoney112]

This argument is funny. Especially when Carr, Church, and Wilcox account for a 20 million dollar cap hit.

Who's not overspending this year again?

 

[Alexander]

I am strictly talking Hardy, the player.
And it's not relevant because it was 2 freakin' seasons ago with a different team before a year away from football.

That is really strange.

We keep hearing about how a whole TEAM is just dandy two years removed. Things will be just like 2014.

So it applies to a team that has turned over 20% of the roster, but not a single player?

Well.

How about that.

 

[CF74]

I like how the argument shifts from "overspending"

Yes, the end result of blowing a lot of money in free agency is usually poor. Well documented.

That is not the issue at hand right now. Free agency, when used appropriately as a supplemental tool to ease pressing needs heading into a draft, can be effective.

Our approach has been highly questionable.

The one quality improvement in Thornton, he just happens to play the deepest position in the entire upcoming draft.

It would be so nice if we drafted two 1-Techs that moved him back to a 3...

 

[JW82]

The Steelers and Packers are playoff caliber teams. Dallas is 4-12 and they want to stand pat! Brilliant. I hate when the writers like Mickey and Fish the lapdogs bring up the Carr contract and Livings and Bernardo as reasons not to spend in free agency. NO ....GET BETTER AT SCOUTING TALENT! Because they suck at it doesn't mean free agency doesn't work.

 

[visionary]

So tiresome. If all you want to do is complain, have at it.. There's no point discussing with you honestly if you're going to reply with junk. And 25 years goes back to 1991.

The Cowboys have the most wins in the division during the Garrett years, and that includes starting with some bad teams and no room to maneuver under the cap. They've got a specific approach under Garrett, and how effective that is is wide open for discussion. But I can't have that debate if you're incapable of actually engaging and only want to resort to pointless jabs instead of actually addressing the topic for once.

Facts can be "tiresome" at times

 

[mattjames2010]

That is really strange.

We keep hearing about how a whole TEAM is just dandy two years removed. Things will be just like 2014.

So it applies to a team that has turned over 20% of the roster, but not a single player?

Well.

How about that.

Your comment would be apt if you could quote me saying that. Talk to anyone who brings up 2014 to predict 2016, because it's not me.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

This argument is funny. Especially when Carr, Church, and Wilcox account for a 20 million dollar cap hit.

Who's not overspending this year again?

You know that those cap holds will be around 20m come September?

I mean there is a good chance that two of the three aren't even on the team.

 

[gmoney112]

You know that those cap holds will be around 20m come September?

I mean there is a good chance that two of the three aren't even on the team.

Great. But I'm not sure how rolling it to 2017 helps us this year.

Unless people don't think we could have used it.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Great. But I'm not sure how rolling it to 2017 helps us this year.

Unless people don't think we could have used it.

In the same way you don't manage a business year to year one also shouldn't manage a cap year to year.

 

[Alexander]

I mean there is a good chance that two of the three aren't even on the team.

Then that is asinine since you can cut someone right now and designate them as a June 1st cut, especially Carr. That is a benefit.

So you think we should carry the salary forward into the season and absorb more liability?

 

[Sydla]

In the same way you don't manage a business year to year one also shouldn't manage a cap year to year.

Well if that's the case, then the notion that we can't take a QB at four is pretty silly as well.

 

[gmoney112]

In the same way you don't manage a business year to year one also shouldn't manage a cap year to year.

You're right. You don't manage a business year to year.

You manage it daily. Especially in a billion dollar competitive market.

 

[Idgit]

Facts can be "tiresome" at times

You're a regular bastion of truth, visionary. What would we do without your knowledge bombs?
Have a nice day.