jimmy40;3862584 said:that's like blaming divorce on a telephone instead of the people on it.
Dallas;3862597 said:Remember party lines?
When I was a little kid we shared the phone line w/ like 4 neighbors.
It was hilarious. I would listen in ALL THE TIME and the neighbors HATED me because I knew everything about them and they could nearly never catch me picking up and hanging up the line.
I was NINJA partyliner. AWESOME
DFWJC;3862671 said:As far as the discussion about living together or not....stats show that the odds of staying together drastically DECREASE (I've read 80% greater risk of divorce with a min of 50% greater risk) if you live togther first.. Look it up.
I'm not saying to do it or not to do it...just saying facts are fact.
My wife and I moved in together after we were engaged, so that was still living together before marriage.
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Discovery Health:
"Divorce Myth: Living together before marriage is a good way to reduce the chances of eventually divorcing.
Fact: Many studies have found that those who live together before marriage have a considerably higher chance of eventually divorcing. The reasons for this are not well understood. In part, the type of people who are willing to cohabit may also be those who are more willing to divorce. There is some evidence that the act of cohabitation itself generates attitudes in people that are more conducive to divorce, for example the attitude that relationships are temporary and easily can be ended."
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Fowler Report:
"Couples who do marry after living together are 50% more likely to divorce than those who did not."
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WV Cowboy;3862722 said:I have a strong passion for marriage, .. I wish everyone could enjoy a happy successful marriage. I really do, I hate that there are so many divorces.
Marriage is a commitment. A life-long commitment.
Marriage is promising to love one another and stick together through thick and thin, for better or worse, rich or poor, good or bad, healthy or sick, .. whatever happens.
Marriage says, "I will be there for you, .. I will promise to be there for you in front of God, family and friends."
Living together is not a commitment. Living together is playing house with one foot in the door, and one foot out.
Living together says, "I will live here with you until it is not fun or convenient, until you bore me, if we grow apart, if we hit a rough patch, or until someone better comes along."
I would even bet that being married is different than living together, for those that have done both.
It is not up to me to tell someone to get married or live together, but whichever you choose, I wish you a life-long relationship.
Tell me about it.baj1dallas;3862851 said:Yeah I'm not sure I believe those stats aren't manipulated somehow. I thought up a good way to do it before but I forgot it now.
Anyway people are weird. Why would you get married if you're going to cheat?
WV Cowboy;3862722 said:Living together is not a commitment. Living together is playing house with one foot in the door, and one foot out.
DFWJC;3862984 said:Tell me about it.
As for the stats. I doubt they're made up seeing that every study ever done seems to come up with similar conclusions. There are no studies thating otherwise--even those run by people hoping they would. Bottomline: Those that live together before marriage have a far greater chance of divorcing than those that don't. That does not mean that millions that have done so have gone on to be great married couples.
In either case, I just think everyone should do what they feel comfortable with...no agenda here.
VietCowboy;3863094 said:true, but there is still some stigma associated with living together, so it makes sense that those who are willing to cohabitat are also less likely to see divorce as an evil thing. those less likely to cohabitat may also be less likely to divorce, but that doesn't guarantee that their marriage is successful. I know too many couples who stay married and are miserable.
WV Cowboy;3862722 said:Living together is not a commitment. Living together is playing house with one foot in the door, and one foot out.
CowboyDan;3863043 said:This is total BS.
WV Cowboy;3863282 said:In some instances I'm sure you are absolutely correct, .. but in most cases, .. it is pretty much spot on.
WV Cowboy;3863282 said:In some instances I'm sure you are absolutely correct, .. but in most cases, .. it is pretty much spot on.