Falcons’ Grady Jarrett: Packers get away with holding, struggle when game is fair

[Biggems]

Imagine if at least one of these calls were made in a game that went down to the final play. Considering we started out cold and were down 21-3 and came back to tie it with seconds left...A fairly called game could have made the difference.

If it were fairly called we would not have been down 21 3....we got hosed by that stupid bogus huddle call on our 2nd possession. It took away first down in the red zone.

 

[Kevinicus]

From @speedkilz88

Them there are some holds, especially that 2nd one. That was a sack. Ref looking right at it too.

 

[Future]

Well, if Cruz said it it must be true.

I still don't understand what your point is in claiming that Dallas DBs "get away with a lot of holding" in a thread about Green Bay blocking technique that borders on holding and how the Packers continue to be called less for it than anybody else.

Because it is just whining, and hypocritical whining to boot.

 

[TNCowboy]

I guess you missed the GB game because he spent a lot of it in the officials' ears, starting with the bizarre call on Butler. His face was redder than normal for most of the game.

Nope. Saw every second. Garrett did his poor imitation of Tom Landry almost the entire game.

 

[speedkilz88]

Not that it matters but those were my gifs from the thread with the article about their technique.

Yeah, these were originally from theogt.

 

[VACowboy]

Because it is just whining, and hypocritical whining to boot.

Ah, I see. So, since the Cowboys DBs "get away with a lot of holding," I and others are whiny hypocrites for wondering about the fact that according to the officials, Green Bay has not committed a single holding infraction in three playoff games--even though the team practices tactics that entail grabbing shoulder pads from the get-go, even though we've all seen pics of GB o'linemen not just holding, but grabbing players around the neck, from behind, sometimes more than one of them wrangling the same player at a time? Yeah. Ok.

Everyone knows all teams get away with stuff, but we're not talking about a call missed here or there. We're talking about a pattern of behavior that shows the Green Bay Packers committing blatant holding infractions and not just getting away with one or two, but over the course of three playoff games not getting called at all for a foul that general knowledge says occurs on almost every play. That doesn't seem odd to you at all? Not even a little?

If you've read many of my posts you know I don't buy into the conspiracy theories. That "the league," which generally gets boiled down to Mara and Goodell, have instructed the officials to make sure the Cowboys don't win is an idea as illogical as the way Green Bay never gets flagged for holding. The truth is, Dallas and its rookie sensations in the SB would have been absolutely HUGE for the league at a time when it really needed it.

In the same vein, I don't believe that the officials are to blame for yet another one and done for Dallas in the playoffs. The officials didn't score 21 points on the Dallas D in the first quarter and a half, make them get caught trying stupid substitutions or cause them to commit dumb pre-snap penalties. But when the Cowboys are being called for something that we see happen game in and out and hadn't been noticed by an official since at least 2014 while GB sees not one holding flag, it makes a lot of us wonder, including a beat writer in Green Bay.

I think the answer is that officials buy the Rodgers media worship and he's getting calls like all the superstars do in the NBA, plain and simple. If this belief makes me a whiner or a hypocrite or whatever, so be it.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Can I inject some facts?
Since 2012, the Cowboys have averaged 24.2 offensive holding penalties per season.
Since 2012, the Packers have averaged 24.0 offensive holding penalties per season.

That being said, I don't think they were called a single off holding penalty in their 3 playoff games which was kind of whack.

How many weren't called? That's my point and quite a few people agree.

 

[SportsGuru80]

He's absolutely correct....

 

[tyke1doe]

It's probably something every team that plays them should bring up in the media before the game, and every head coach should be talking to the refs about during the game.

I'm not directing this toward you or your comments so don't take this personally, but this happens stuff happens ALL ... THE ... TIME in some form or fashion.

-Defensive backs and coaches used to alert the refs to how Michael Irvin would push off.
-Players and coaches would complain about how the Broncos used to cut block.
-Players and coaches would complain about the dirty play of the Raiders.

In every generation, a team is going to be singled out for getting away with something that others can't or don't.
It's part of football.
But it has minimal impact on the results, IMO. If your team is good (like the Falcons), it will overcome these things. If it's not good enough (like the Cowboys), your team will get beat, and it's fans will whine incessantly over how the league/refs/Blandino-in-the-sky is/are out to get you and caused your team to lose.

 

[ghst187]

Posted by Michael David Smith on January 24, 2017, 5:20 AM EST

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Falcons defensive tackle Grady Jarrett says the officials did their jobs on Sunday, /

Wish they would've done their jobs one week sooner...

 

[TheCount]

The officials for the Falcons/Packers game were excellent. Wish we'd had that crew for our game against the Packers.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

How many weren't called? That's my point and quite a few people agree.

Well if you can come up with some kind of solid analysis that shows the Packers get by with more holds than the Cowboys I will listen. The stats I gave you at least proves that the Cowboys are not called for anymore holds than the Packers and vise versa. I am going to go out on a limb and say that the amount of times a team is called for holding is proportionate to the amount of holds they are getting by with.

 

[Fletch]

Cowboys O-line usually gets called for it. Green Bay not so much. It's the truth. No face palm needed.

Straight Fire!

 

[HoosierCowboy]

If this is known by opponents it should have been brought up by cowboys with the officials in pre game meetings to put them on notice but I doubt Garrett bothered

Why turn this into bashing Garrett?

 

[ThreeandOut]

I'm not directing this toward you or your comments so don't take this personally, but this happens stuff happens ALL ... THE ... TIME in some form or fashion.

-Defensive backs and coaches used to alert the refs to how Michael Irvin would push off.
-Players and coaches would complain about how the Broncos used to cut block.
-Players and coaches would complain about the dirty play of the Raiders.

In every generation, a team is going to be singled out for getting away with something that others can't or don't.
It's part of football.
But it has minimal impact on the results, IMO. If your team is good (like the Falcons), it will overcome these things. If it's not good enough (like the Cowboys), your team will get beat, and it's fans will whine incessantly over how the league/refs/Blandino-in-the-sky is/are out to get you and caused your team to lose.

It's funny you use an example from the 90's Cowboys to make your point because teams started complaining about them and NFL changed a number of rules as a result. Michael had his own rule. Emmitt has his own rule. It seems like half the team had a rule named after them. Other teams weren't expected to be good enough to overcome these perceived disadvantages, the Cowboys players were expected to comply with the new rules.

I get it that referees are going to miss calls. But when you have multiple teams complaining about another team getting away with a certain type of offense, the league needs to look at it more carefully. If our coaches need to get in a referees ear during the game to make that point, then they need to do that.

And the Falcons didn't have to be good enough to overcome this issue with Green Bay because the article specifically talks about the referees not letting them get away with it. If the refs had called our game like they did the Falcons game, I wouldn't be complaining about the officiating if we had lost.

 

[TheHerd]

Not for nothing, but the Cowboys' DBs have gotten away with at least one hold every game this year and got away with a couple against GB.

Scandrick has made a career out of knowing how to hold.

Just one? I'd say a lot more. Hell, the purported best CB in the league, Richard Sherman, gets away with at least one hold on just about every play.

That's what makes the refs capable of affecting games. Since these infractions happen enough to call at almost any time on every play, the times the refs actually choose to call the penalty is incredibly arbitrary, despite what Blandino would have us believe.

 

[Oh_Canada]

If it were fairly called we would not have been down 21 3....we got hosed by that stupid bogus huddle call on our 2nd possession. It took away first down in the red zone.

Speaking of which anyone know why they allowed a play to run in that instance? Isn't that a pre-snap?

 

[Oh_Canada]

The Packers oline stinks, they are bailed out by Rodgers and the refs every week.

 

[Doomsay]

Cowboys O-line does it too.

You really have not watched the games carefully. Even the Packers admit it.

The disparity in missed/bad calls looks to have been about 7-2, considering the team only had 9 drives, that's a big difference.

 

[mugsybows]

Posted by Michael David Smith on January 24, 2017, 5:20 AM EST

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Falcons defensive tackle Grady Jarrett says the officials did their jobs on Sunday, and that was a problem for Aaron Rodgers and the Packers.

Jarrett said the Packers usually get help from the officials, but on Sunday the game was called fairly, and that was to the Falcons’ advantage.

“They’re a team that gets away with a lot of stuff as far as holding calls and everything. So, when the thing isn’t going his way, when the game’s played fairly, it tends to be a problem,” Jarrett said, via USA Today.

The Packers averaged six penalties for 52 yards a game in the regular season and were called for six penalties for 63 yards against the Falcons, so it’s not like the officials were unusually hard on Green Bay in the NFC Championship Game. But the Falcons liked how the officials did their job. The winning team usually does.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...away-with-holding-struggle-when-game-is-fair/

you da real MVP Grady