Falcons’ Grady Jarrett: Packers get away with holding, struggle when game is fair

[slomoxn]

We get boned by the officials playing the same team in the same round 1 year apart.

I think it's more a product of god awful reffing. I think the replacement refs were just as efficient.

I've mentioned before of how everyone cheered when the regular refs ended their strike; I didn't understand why, they were bad when they went on strike and have been horrible since. The replacement refs weren't that bad all things considered, they at least had a reason for their bad calls, inexperience, the regulars are just bad and have no knowledge of the game they preside over.

 

[AzorAhai]

It really is mind boggling. I mean the ref is looking right at it both times.

 

[gimmesix]

Them there are some holds, especially that 2nd one. That was a sack. Ref looking right at it too.

I think he was shielded by Rodgers. On the first play, it looks like the hold occurred after the official jumped back and to the left, where he could not have seen it as well. Both were holding and should have been called, but the official put himself in poor position to see them clearly. Either that are the Packers know when to hold and when to let go before being caught.

I don't get too upset over missed holding calls because of this. The officials on the field often cannot see what we see so clearly. What game was it where Thornton whacked the QB on the face mask? The official didn't call it because he couldn't see it.

Now, the unsportsmanlike conduct on Butler was a poor call based on how the rule reads. That Blandino would defend it because of where Butler was on the field shows that he doesn't even know what the rule says.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Wish they would've done their jobs one week sooner...

Would've been nice to lose to atl instead of gb.

 

[Vintage]

I think he was shielded by Rodgers. On the first play, it looks like the hold occurred after the official jumped back and to the left, where he could not have seen it as well. Both were holding and should have been called, but the official put himself in poor position to see them clearly. Either that are the Packers know when to hold and when to let go before being caught.

I don't get too upset over missed holding calls because of this. The officials on the field often cannot see what we see so clearly. What game was it where Thornton whacked the QB on the face mask? The official didn't call it because he couldn't see it.

Now, the unsportsmanlike conduct on Butler was a poor call based on how the rule reads. That Blandino would defend it because of where Butler was on the field shows that he doesn't even know what the rule says.

Blandino has never been a ref before. You have to forgive him for not understanding the rules. Hard to do when you have never had to actually do part of the job.

 

[visionary]

Why turn this into bashing Garrett?

Not bashing Garrett
You can bet that if Bellichick played the packers he would have brought this up constantly in pre game meetings with the officials to make sure they call it
The fact that it wasn't called even once against is tells me Garrett didn't draw their attention to it
It is the responsibility of the HC to look at every single angle and make sure it us working to our advantage and I'm it sure Garrett does that

 

[plymkr]

If this is known by opponents it should have been brought up by cowboys with the officials in pre game meetings to put them on notice but I doubt Garrett bothered

Garret brought it up to the officials but the officials couldn't understand his interpretative clapping.

 

[speedkilz88]

He probably is commenting on the film he watched of the Cowboys.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Well if you can come up with some kind of solid analysis that shows the Packers get by with more holds than the Cowboys I will listen. The stats I gave you at least proves that the Cowboys are not called for anymore holds than the Packers and vise versa. I am going to go out on a limb and say that the amount of times a team is called for holding is proportionate to the amount of holds they are getting by with.

This Jarrett dude doesn't agree. Maybe he knows a little more than both of us.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Would've been nice to lose to atl instead of gb.

It would've hurted like hell, but you're right. I would feel a lot better if we had at least advanced to the conference championship.

 

[CWR]

It would've hurted like hell, but you're right. I would feel a lot better if we had at least advanced to the conference championship.

Im not a greedy man. I simply wanted to be in the nfc championship game. Of course id rather win it all but I said all along my bottom line to not feel sick to my stomach was an nfc championship appearance.

 

[CapnCook]

Why turn this into bashing Garrett?

Confirmation Bias

 

[guag]

Yeah, how silly. Only other teams hold.

Threads like these just make us look like a bunch of whiners. In the NFL, if you ain't holding you ain't trying. Every team does it. Kid yourself if it makes you feel better.

Of course every team does it, I think everyone realizes that.

What many people are upset about, I imagine, is the inconsistency among the ref's calls. Just like in baseball how an ump has his own strike zone that is established during the game, you would expect that (for example) if Free is going to get called for a certain hold, that the Packers would also get flagged for a similar (or more severe) hold, especially when the game is on the line.

 

[JoeKing]

Cowboys O-line usually gets called for it. Green Bay not so much. It's the truth. No face palm needed.

So the issue is with the refs, not the players?

 

[guag]

Garret brought it up to the officials but the officials couldn't understand his interpretative clapping.

I'm dead

 

[JoeKing]

Eh not really.

There's an article pointing out the technique the Packers employ and it's very different from the Cowboys OL.

Then maybe you can show us the article on the Cowboys technique that shows it's "very different".

 

[JoeKing]

You really have not watched the games carefully. Even the Packers admit it.

The disparity in missed/bad calls looks to have been about 7-2, considering the team only had 9 drives, that's a big difference.

I have watched Cowboys games about as careful as anyone can and they get away with murder despite being called for more than the packers. Packers admitting it doesn't mean the Cowboys are not just as guilty.

 

[FloridaRob]

You really have not watched the games carefully. Even the Packers admit it.

The disparity in missed/bad calls looks to have been about 7-2, considering the team only had 9 drives, that's a big difference.

you forgot the second part of that tweet when he said "NOT"

 

[Nova]

Then maybe you can show us the article on the Cowboys technique that shows it's "very different".

Why so salty?

I don't recall you making an appearance in this thread, so maybe take a look at it and read the article linked (if you haven't already).

Validation that the Packers Hold Every Play

To sum up, the GB tackles play a hands outside technique and the "first thing they do is grab". So essentially they're keeping guys in front them by taking away spins, swim moves, and speed. The downside is they'll be more vulnerable to the bull rush, but with a guy like Rodgers, that's not such a bad thing.

I'm sure if you think back you can surely envision Tyron playing elbows down, hands inside the pads. And what makes him so effective is that he has the great footwork to keep in front of his block most times, in addition to freakishly long arms to keep the defenders hands from making a good push.

But the biggest difference between the techniques is that hands outside has historically warranted more flags, and for a pretty simple reason.

It's easier to see actual holds.

When you're beat and your hands are outside of the guys pads it's easy to see jersey stretching and there's also a lot less question of whether or not the defender just slipped, or if the defender is the one doing the grabbing/pulling.

But for some reason, the Packers aren't being called for holding as much as they should.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

This Jarrett dude doesn't agree. Maybe he knows a little more than both of us.

I've honed my NFL knowledge over several years sitting on my couch and watching TV, I stand by my statement.