Falcons release Mike Vick

[Hoofbite]

:bang2:

My post looked a lot more sarcastic when I wrote it with all caps.

OMG!!!!

GO GET HIM, JERRRRRRRY!!!!!!!!

Sorry the cap-correction of the site took out nearly all the sarcasm.

 

[arglebargle]

I am sick of those saying he made a mistake. He CHOSE to involve himself in a disgusting obscene animal abusive BUSINESS for at least 5 years. That is a pattern of behavior and lack of moral foundation. Hundreds of dogs died brutally and in great pain. Read the indictments and the descriptions of how many of those dogs were killed by Vick and his cronies. Read about the lost pets and dog pound refugees that were thrown into fighting pits to "train"
the fighting dogs. Those poor pets and weak dogs were TORN TO PIECES.
FIVE years at least. Weekly and daily.

Absolutely! Yep, he pled guilty, in part, to sweep some of the more awful bits of his behavior under the rug. Throwing puppies and pets to be torn up by his fighting dogs was even lower than his regularly reported actions.

This was not a momentary failure of judgement or character.

Plus, he's not very smart, and any offense that he becomes a part of has to be tailored to his many deficiencies. Not worth the trouble, and in my opinion the NFL brass should just say no.

 

[MadCow]

might be your opinion, but it isnt one I share

he doesnt deserve jack...in fact his lousy rear end should still be in their doing time

he's human garbage, period

As I don't share your opinion. I guess its all a wash.

While the offense was worthy of severe punishment, Michael Vick definitely deserves an opportunity for redemption. His debt to society has been paid and has shown some form of contrition. He should be allotted an opportunity to show that he is truly remorseful while earning a living at the same time.

Human garbage??? I've seen worse.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I don't think Michael Vick "deserves" a second chance but if a team wants to give him a second chance, I believe they should be able too.

With an impending bankrupcy, jail time and humiliation, I think he has paid a high price for his crimes.

 

[Four]

Yes, he did his time, but the distraction to whatever team he hooks up with next... it too will be egregious... (nice word btw). We don't need that here. We just got rid of most of the distracting, problem children. We don't need ONE that will be more of a distraction that all the ones we let go put together. No thanks.

ohhhh hell nah I don't want him anywhere near the boys.

I just don't think he should be blacklisted from the league.

I will admit I kinda wanted us to take a flyer on his brother years back.

 

[jobberone]

I don't think Michael Vick "deserves" a second chance but if a team wants to give him a second chance, I believe they should be able too.

With an impending bankrupcy, jail time and humiliation, I think he has paid a high price for his crimes.

I hate the idea of being cruel. It is cruel to continue to punish him after all he's gone thru. He can never undue all the cruelty, deaths, and emotional baggage the living animals are left with. All the hate you can muster will not undo a thing and serves you less than it harms him.

 

[MWILL]

The commish just needs to say no here.

He doesnt belong in the league. Simply say no your not welcome.

Let him go play in the cfl.

If he is the great athlete everyone says then he will win some championships in the cfl and get paid.

There is no reason for him to have the chance to play in the nfl.

You must work for PETA.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

Lol +1

 

[jackrussell]

You must work for PETA.

Or have a conscience.

 

[Four]

Or have a conscience.

what kind of conscience says a man who paid his debt to society owes more?

the double standard is pretty far out there considering he hurt animals, but to wish him more hurt is just fine?

 

[lspain1]

There will be a LOT of strong opinions on this. Is there a crime large enough where rehabilitation becomes impossible? If the answer to this is no....then why do we have a death penalty? Was Vick's crime large enough that the league should not accept him back? Was Vick's crime large enough that the fans will not accept him regardless of how he performs?

I don't know the answers to these questions but I can say this: If Michael Vick plays football, regardless of how he performs on the field, I'll find it hard to keep from imagining what went on. I might watch the game....but I think I won't enjoy it as much. Because I feel this way, if I were a GM, I think I would avoid Michael Vick reinstated or not. We'll see.

 

[DFWJC]

while what he did was egregious, he did his time for his crime and should be allowed back in the league.

Completely agree.

He lost probably 60 million and can never recover that. He had to spend real time in freakin Levenworth. And he after all of that still has people that throw rocks in glass houses as if a second chance is foreign to them. Those that judge the loudest will someday be judged the harshest, imo.

He deserved to be punished. And in record, unprecedented, scape-goat fashion , he was punished for that crime. He did fund a nasty business and even participated in it about 5-10% of the time. So they got their man and sent him to hell. Good for them...but the price is paid, imo. My guess is that more than 50 NFL players were involved in dog-fighting one way or other when this came down. It was very common...and somewhat culturally based. That's one reason why it was so quiet on that front. I bet many did not even think this was a jailable offense...I sure didn't know it was (not saying it shuld not have been) as I'd never heard it resulting in that.

Let him back in if he seems to truly understand and is remorseful of his crime...if he transgresses in that area of "sin" then boot him for good--because it is not addictive, you should not get mutitple chances.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I hate the idea of being cruel. It is cruel to continue to punish him after all he's gone thru. He can never undue all the cruelty, deaths, and emotional baggage the living animals are left with. All the hate you can muster will not undo a thing and serves you less than it harms him.

True.

However, the NFL is a business and a business is selling a product. If the NFL product is put in jeopardy because of Michael Vick, the commissioner has a right to tell him that it was a priveledge in the first place and it has been permanently taken away from him.

Personally, I think the commissioner should allow him to play in the NFL but leave it up to individual teams to decide if they want him.

Obviously, people are going to complain but then again, people are always going to complain.

 

[DFWJC]

True.

However, the NFL is a business and a business is selling a product. If the NFL product is put in jeopardy because of Michael Vick, the commissioner has a right to tell him that it was a priveledge in the first place and it has been permanently taken away from him.

Personally, I think the commissioner should allow him to play in the NFL but leave it up to individual teams to decide if they want him.

Obviously, people are going to complain but then again, people are always going to complain.

I agree. It is a privilege to work in the NFL. I do think he deserves another chance but it is the commissioner's (and later the individual teams') right to say "no".

 

[DFWJC]

Absolutely! Yep, he pled guilty, in part, to sweep some of the more awful bits of his behavior under the rug. Throwing puppies and pets to be torn up by his fighting dogs was even lower than his regularly reported actions.

This was not a momentary failure of judgement or character.

Plus, he's not very smart, and any offense that he becomes a part of has to be tailored to his many deficiencies. Not worth the trouble, and in my opinion the NFL brass should just say no.

Let's don't start making crap up. You're beyond full of it if you think Vick personally took little puppies and fed them to the dogs. Come on! That is total folklore. Those POSs that call themselves friends sold him down the river to save their tails. All the evidence showed that he was 95% involved via finaces but did on a few occassions show up for dogfights. All the rest of that garbage is unsubstanciated and has grown larger as the days go on. Compared to some of those creeps who ran that place, he was nothing.

Still, he was involved in somethig horrific and they got their scape goat and good for them. Now everyone is much more aware of this nastiness. Just don't go making up BS to stack on top of it all.

 

[dbair1967]

Let's don't start making crap up. You're beyond full of it if you think Vick personally took little puppies and fed them to the dogs. Come on! That is total folklore. Those POSs that call themselves friends sold him down the river to save their tails. All the evidence showed that he was 95% involved via finaces but did on a few occassions show up for dogfights. All the rest of that garbage is unsubstanciated and has grown larger as the days go on. Compared to some of those creeps who ran that place, he was nothing.

Dude, go educate yourself on the facts. He did indeed take part in this. He wasnt a casual observer. I read the entire case cover to cover and the locals had even more detailed coverage on it than what was talked about nationally, it was sick.

He threw golden retriever puppies in with trained pit bulls to "warm them up"...he cruely punished or in some cases even destroyed dogs who didnt perform "up to par"...They had the guy cold on this, thats why he did time.

He's a sick POS.

 

[DallasKnight]

ohhhh hell nah I don't want him anywhere near the boys.

I just don't think he should be blacklisted from the league.

I will admit I kinda wanted us to take a flyer on his brother years back.

If they want to let him back in the league, that's fine... I will personally detest watching him play.

Only problem with his brother was.... he didn't have a 10th of the talent his brother did...

 

[Four]

If they want to let him back in the league, that's fine... I will personally detest watching him play.

Only problem with his brother was.... he didn't have a 10th of the talent his brother did...

I remember marcus' last season in college ball espn was running stories about how he would be the better NFL QB because he lacked his brothers athleticism so he had to rely on his arm rather than his legs.

He went undrafted, I think, so I was just hoping we would give him a look.

 

[Doomsday101]

Let's don't start making crap up. You're beyond full of it if you think Vick personally took little puppies and fed them to the dogs. Come on! That is total folklore. Those POSs that call themselves friends sold him down the river to save their tails. All the evidence showed that he was 95% involved via finaces but did on a few occassions show up for dogfights. All the rest of that garbage is unsubstanciated and has grown larger as the days go on. Compared to some of those creeps who ran that place, he was nothing.

Still, he was involved in somethig horrific and they got their scape goat and good for them. Now everyone is much more aware of this nastiness. Just don't go making up BS to stack on top of it all.

He was funding it and yes the POS friends sold him down the river it does not change the fact Vick to is a POS for funding it and allowing it to take place. He was not some innocent bystander.

 

[jobberone]

True.

However, the NFL is a business and a business is selling a product. If the NFL product is put in jeopardy because of Michael Vick, the commissioner has a right to tell him that it was a priveledge in the first place and it has been permanently taken away from him.

Personally, I think the commissioner should allow him to play in the NFL but leave it up to individual teams to decide if they want him.

Obviously, people are going to complain but then again, people are always going to complain.

I don't have a hard time with that. It is what it is. And it's exactly how you stated it. He will have a chance from the league and then the GMs will make the decision.

IMO, the timing is not right yet. It'll take awhile. He may never play again in the NFL if it doesn't come soon. I'd play in the CFL if they'll have him and go from there.