Falcons release Mike Vick

[DallasEast]

Huh??? What was the public expecting? Life in prison? Public hanging? Castration?

Maximum federal sentencing guidelines for Vick's offense is five years.

Federal inmates must serve 85% of the sentence so that they can become eligible for removal of 15% of their sentence for "good time served".

He voluntarily entered prison three weeks early (November 2007).

His 23 month conviction ( PDF document ) was levied in December 2007.

His official release will be this July.

"My opinion?"

He should remain in prison until November 2012 unless he had continued to be a model prisoner. In that case, my opinion would have changed to seeing him being released in February 2012.

No life. No hanging. No castration.

 

[JoeyBones31]

Vick had the talent to be the best most dynamic QB that has ever played the game.

It's not his talent, it's his lack of sense that did him in. He also lacked the work ethic to improve on his game. He thought he was good enough.

He had all the talent in the world though.

For the sake of argument, let's post those qualities of a QB that we think is equal to "all the talent in the world " as you posted,

(1) The ability to quickly read a defense -- D

(2) Pocket presence---C

(3) Scrambling ability --A

(4) passing accuracy---D ( this one is the most glaring deficiency of all 5)

(5) Going through his progressions --D

Five qualities and he got an A, (3) D's and a C

I would say he's a mediocre QB at best... Sorry.

 

[JoeyBones31]

If I am not mistaken, after Leonard Little caused the death of a mother and her child by driving drunk, he has been arrested a few more times for driving under the influence.

ESPN The Magazine did a great piece on the situation. Appearantly the Husband/Father of the victims tends to show up at NFL Games protesting Leonard Little being in the league.

Also, the main problem is that Michael Vick didn't kill any human beings and also, what is important is that he did real time in prison and has filed for bankrupcy protection.

"He didn't kill humans????" That's your retort? Wow, just wow,

Is a dog a living breathing being?? Does defenseless dogs especially beagles ( he used them as bait to train his killer dogs) deserve to die needlessly, and for that matter , does a pit bull who has been trained to kill, deserve to die because it lost a fight?? And lastly, is it illegal for anyone to host dog fighting???

The punishment fit the crime, he got what he deserved.

Where are your morals?? Like I said before, wow just wow..

 

[Four]

For the sake of argument, let's post those qualities of a QB that we think is equal to "all the talent in the world " as you posted,

(1) The ability to quickly read a defense -- D

(2) Pocket presence---C

(3) Scrambling ability --A

(4) passing accuracy---D ( this one is the most glaring deficiency of all 5)

(5) Going through his progressions --D

Five qualities and he got an A, (3) D's and a C

I would say he's a mediocre QB at best... Sorry.

cannon arm----A(you left that one out for some reason)

He is or was a mediocre QB, however, I never disputed that fact. I said with peyton mannings brain he could have revolutionized the game.

and in case you really wanted to be a stickler, even with all that you listed if he had spent the time working on his accuracy it would have improved.

so that would be

cannon arm---A
passing accuracy---B(let's not split hairs here)
Scrambling ability---A


those three alone make him a good to great QB, because the way those three could tie together would be pretty hard to stop.

and you are trying to use facts to argue a hypothetical.

 

[Trendnet]

"He didn't kill humans????" That's your retort? Wow, just wow,

Is a cow a living breathing being?? Does defenseless cows especially calves ( we used them as veal because of the delicate taste and tenderness) deserve to die needlessly, and for that matter , does a bull who has been who has been put in a bull ring, deserve to die because it lost a fight?? And lastly, should it be illegal to slaughter cows?

The punishment fit the crime, he got what he deserved.

Where are your morals?? Like I said before, wow just wow..

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We, as Americans hunt for sport. Ducks, Deer, etc...

We, especially me, like our meat. Give me a good 'ole burger, and I'm happy. (except McDonalds... bleah)

Other cultures, perfer to eat dogs. That's just the way it is.

Mike Vick commited a crime. He went to jail.

But please, spare the moral outrage as you cry over Snoopy while eating your Double Bacon Cheese Burger with a side dish of Chili.

 

[Four]

Sometimes I look at my dog and think he would taste delicious...

it was a joke lighten up

 

[5Stars]

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We, as Americans hunt for sport. Ducks, Deer, etc...

We, especially me, like our meat. Give me a good 'ole burger, and I'm happy. (except McDonalds... bleah)

Other cultures, perfer to eat dogs. That's just the way it is.

Mike Vick commited a crime. He went to jail.

But please, spare the moral outrage as you cry over Snoopy while eating your Double Bacon Cheese Burger with a side dish of Chili.

That is not the point!

What he did was break the law...get it? Break the law?

When the USA ever allows dog-fighting, then Senior Mexico can kill all the dogs he wants...especially pit bulls.

Carry on...

 

[Trendnet]

That is not the point!

What he did was break the law...get it? Break the law?

When the USA ever allows dog-fighting, then Senior Mexico can kill all the dogs he wants...especially pit bulls.

Carry on...

Oh I know...

That's why I said in the line before you bolded... Mike Vick commited a crime. He went to jail.

He most certainly broke the law. And he was punished.

 

[5Stars]

Oh I know...

That's why I said in the line before you bolded... Mike Vick commited a crime. He went to jail.

He most certainly broke the law. And he was punished.

I'm just addressing the posters that equate the killing of dogs as the same as killing cows, deer, sheep, ants, flies...you know, legal stuff.

I am a totally dog lover...and I hate pit bulls. But, I don't condone people using them to pleasure themselves.

That is why pit bulls are so freaking crazy as it is! There is too much cross breeding of those dogs that they now know nothing else but to attack! Even that supposed "sane" pits can go off at a minutes notice..then what?

 

[Four]

I'm just addressing the posters that equate the killing of dogs as the same as killing cows, deer, sheep, ants, flies...you know, legal stuff.

I am a totally dog lover...and I hate pit bulls. But, I don't condone people using them to pleasure themselves.

That is why pit bulls are so freaking crazy as it is! There is too much cross breeding of those dogs that they now know nothing else but to attack! Even that supposed "sane" pits can go off at a minutes notice..then what?

don't spread that bs about pit bulls

There are good ones and bad one, the ones bread for fighting are just that, bread for fighting.

There are plenty of breeders who breed for "pet" traits.

They aren't all monsters. I don't care for the breed because you never know when you meet one which side of the fence they are on, but to dismiss the entire breed because some *******es breed some of them to fight is wrong.

and it makes your point seem a little hypocritical.

That's why pitbull breeders who breed for fighting kill off the weaker dogs, and certainly kill off the dogs that won't fight.

 

[Trendnet]

I'm just addressing the posters that equate the killing of dogs as the same as killing cows, deer, sheep, ants, flies...you know, legal stuff.

I am a totally dog lover...and I hate pit bulls. But, I don't condone people using them to pleasure themselves.

That is why pit bulls are so freaking crazy as it is! There is too much cross breeding of those dogs that they now know nothing else but to attack! Even that supposed "sane" pits can go off at a minutes notice..then what?

I can understand that.

What I don't agree with is, with those who claim moral superiority because they love dogs more than the other guy.

Dogs are dogs, Cows are cows and Cats... well, they just suck

 

[5Stars]

don't spread that bs about pit bulls

There are good ones and bad one, the ones bread for fighting are just that, bread for fighting.

There are plenty of breeders who breed for "pet" traits.

They aren't all monsters. I don't care for the breed because you never know when you meet one which side of the fence they are on, but to dismiss the entire breed because some *******es breed some of them to fight is wrong.

and it makes your point seem a little hypocritical.

That's why pitbull breeders who breed for fighting kill off the weaker dogs, and certainly kill off the dogs that won't fight.

You just proved my point...


You tell me what other dog out there is bred to fight to the death? There might be some, but pit bulls are notorious for being unstable. It's in their nature or DNA to be that way. Why do you think they gave them the name "pit" bulls?

Even the AKC does not recognize them. But, if you want one...have at it. Juts be careful...because you never know when they will go off...

 

[dadymat]

I'm just addressing the posters that equate the killing of dogs as the same as killing cows, deer, sheep, ants, flies...you know, legal stuff.

I am a totally dog lover...and I hate pit bulls. But, I don't condone people using them to pleasure themselves.

That is why pit bulls are so freaking crazy as it is! There is too much cross breeding of those dogs that they now know nothing else but to attack! Even that supposed "sane" pits can go off at a minutes notice..then what?

this made me laugh...sorry

 

[5Stars]

this made me laugh...sorry

Yeah...that sentence is a little wierd..




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[dadymat]

Yeah...that sentence is a little wierd..




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lol.....

 

[Four]

You just proved my point...


You tell me what other dog out there is bred to fight to the death? There might be some, but pit bulls are notorious for being unstable. It's in their nature or DNA to be that way. Why do you think they gave them the name "pit" bulls?

Even the AKC does not recognize them. But, if you want one...have at it. Juts be careful...because you never know when they will go off...

staffordshire terrior is well recognized.


you are ill informed about the breed and it's origins, and got caught up in the fear campaigns.

American staffordshire terrior is the breed's true name and beggining.

Any dog that shows aggressive behaviors, from a chihuahua to a border collie can be used to introduce aggressive behavior into a breed. It takes generation after generation to get to a point of reliably knowing what traits a dog will have.

Not all "pit" bulls are aggressive or even have the traits in them, blanket statements only show that the media machine got into your head about the breed.

Like I said, I don't care for the breed. But I would own a dog that I could trace it's breeding background. The bad part is unless you go through a reputable breeder you never can tell.

I pointed out the fallacy to your argument, I am not attacking you or your beliefs. Do you man.
The American Staffordshire is a very muscular, stocky, yet agile dog, and is extremely strong for his size. He has a broad, powerful head, short muzzle, and very strong jaws. The ears are generally cropped, though this is optional. The eyes are round and black. The teeth should form a scissors bite. Its coat is made up of thick, short, shiny hair. All colors are admissible, but dogs must not be more than 80% white. The tail tapers to a point. The ears are erect and docked slightly. Classed by AKC as "American Staffordshire Terrier" and by UKC as "American Pit Bull Terrier." The American Staffordshire Terrier, are generally of larger bone structure, head size and weight then their cousins the American Pit Bull Terrier.

Temperament​

The American Staffordshire Terrier is a happy, outgoing, stable, and confident dog. Gentle and loving towards people. Good-natured, amusing, extremely loyal and affectionate family pet. It is good with children and adults. Almost always obedient, this dog wants nothing more then to please its master. It is an extremely courageous and intelligent guard dog that is very full of life. Over the past 50 years, careful breeding has produced this friendly, trustworthy, dog who is an especially good dog for children. Courageous and a persistent fighter if provoked. Highly protective of his owners and the owner's property, it will fight an enemy to the death if the enemy traps the dog in a corner and threatens its loved ones. This breed has a very high tolerance for pain. Some un-socialized Staffs may be dog aggressive. Socialize very thoroughly when young to curve any dog aggressive tendencies. This breed can be difficult to housebreak. It has given outstanding results as a guardian of property, but is at the same time esteemed as a companion dog. When properly trained and socialized, the Staff makes a great family companion. This breed is not for the passive owner who does not understand that all dogs have an instinct to have a pack order. They need a firm, confident, consistent owner who understands how to display the proper leadership. The objective in training this dog is to achieve a pack leader status. It is a natural instinct for a dog to have an order in their pack. When we humans live with dogs, we become their pack. The entire pack cooperates under a single leader. Lines are clearly defined. You and all other humans MUST be higher up in the order than the dog. That is the only way your relationship can be a success.

 

[Jon88]

I don't understand what he did??????

 

[Hoofbite]

Go Get Him Jerrrrrrry!!!!!!!

 

[Jon88]

Go Get Him Jerrrrrrry!!!!!!!

He better not.

 

[dadymat]

Go Get Him Jerrrrrrry!!!!!!!

no thanks we already have a 3rd string QB