Fantastic Interview of Charles Ramsey (guy who found Amanda Berry and Gina DeJesus)

[DFWJC]

One of the many things that is odd about this is that there are three men involved.

This is not some random sick person locking up girls.
It's three men--now in their early 50s--who all know about it. I assume all three have known for a decade now. Guess we'll find out.

Another really odd thing already mentioned, is how they managed to keep the girls there. We'll learn more, but it sure didn't seem like the house was a fortress or anything remotely close to it. I'm sure fear was a large part of it, but it still doesn't explain a decade of imprisonment.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

One of the many things that is odd about this is that there are three men involved.

This is not some random sick person locking up girls.
It's three men--now in their early 50s--who all know about it. I assume all three have known for a decade now. Guess we'll find out.

Another really odd thing already mentioned, is how they managed to keep the girls there. We'll elarn more, but it sure didn't seem like the house was a fortress or anything remotely close to it. I'm fear was a large part of it, but it still doesn't explain a decade of imprisonment.

Yes this whole thing is bizarre.

Just have to guess that they had a sound proof basement and had the girls locked up in there because you would think someone at some point would have heard those girls screaming.

 

[Phoenix]

One of the many things that is odd about this is that there are three men involved.

This is not some random sick person locking up girls.
It's three men--now in their early 50s--who all know about it. I assume all three have known for a decade now. Guess we'll find out.

Another really odd thing already mentioned, is how they managed to keep the girls there. We'll learn more, but it sure didn't seem like the house was a fortress or anything remotely close to it. I'm sure fear was a large part of it, but it still doesn't explain a decade of imprisonment.

Not to even mention the bizarreness of the 6 yr old girl is it? Being the lady's daughter? How does that happen in a situation like this? Wow.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I'm sure fear was a large part of it, but it still doesn't explain a decade of imprisonment.

you would think someone at some point would have heard those girls screaming.

You and I can never fully understand the whole Stockholm syndrome.

These girls were 12 -15 yrs old, abducted, stolen away from their families, locked up, abused, and constantly raped by three adult males.

They weren't planning some daring escape.

They had no idea where they were, or that they were near where they lived.

In their mind they had no way of escape. They may have even threatened them or their families if they tried to get away.

He may have threatened the little girl if they tried anything.

We have no idea what these girls have lived through.

Just think about the past ten years of your life, .. birthdays, Christmas, vacations, parties, laughing, enjoying life, ball games, etc.

Not for these girls, .. they may have been chained or locked in a room with no windows waiting for the three guys to walk in again, rape them again, and leave.

And then sit there and wait for that to happen again, .. and again, .. and again, .......... for ten years.

One even gave birth in that dump of a place.

Let's not question anything about these girls.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

You and I can never fully understand the whole Stockholm syndrome.

These girls were 12 -15 yrs old, abducted, stolen away from their families, locked up, abused, and constantly raped by three adult males.

They weren't planning some daring escape.

They had no idea where they were, or that they were near where they lived.

In their mind they had no way of escape. They may have even threatened them or their families if they tried to get away.

He may have threatened the little girl if they tried anything.

We have no idea what these girls have lived through.

Just think about the past ten years of your life, .. birthdays, Christmas, vacations, parties, laughing, enjoying life, ball games, etc.

Not for these girls, .. they may have been chained or locked in a room with no windows waiting for the three guys to walk in again, rape them again, and leave.

And then sit there and wait for that to happen again, .. and again, .. and again, .......... for ten years.

Let's not question anything about these girls.

WOW...I think you missed the boat on that one...heck I think you missed the water and landed face first in dirt on that one.

I, and I would guess the other poster, was not questioning the girls at all.

We just found it bizarre that nobody seen or heard anything for ten years to the point that nobody around them knew they were being held there.

That in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM is putting blame on the girls.

WOW.

 

[DFWJC]

WOW...I think you missed the boat on that one...heck I think you missed the water and landed face first in dirt on that one.

I, and I would guess the other poster, was not questioning the girls at all.

We just found it bizarre that nobody seen or heard anything for ten years to the point that nobody around them knew they were being held there.

That in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM is putting blame on the girls.

WOW.

You're right.

Of course I was not questioning the girls.

 

[WV Cowboy]

WOW...I think you missed the boat on that one...heck I think you missed the water and landed face first in dirt on that one.

You're right, my emotions are really running high on this one.

I was not really directing it at you, but I can see where it looked that way.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

You're right, my emotions are really running high on this one.

I was not really directing it at you, but I can see where it looked that way.

I don't understand Stockholm Syndrome either. With that said, we don't know what really went on here. And I tend to doubt somebody has Stockholm Syndrome and suddenly breaks out of it, running for her life out of the blue. So my guess is that these women were schackled and couldn't escape until now.







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[WoodysGirl]

Son of captor suspect wrote article about missing woman in 2004

By Dylan Stableford, Yahoo! News | The Lookout

In a strange twist, the son of one of the men suspected of kidnapping and holding three women captive for close to a decade in a Cleveland home wrote an article about one of the missing women in 2004.

Ariel “Anthony” Castro, the 31-year-old son of 52-year-old Ariel Castro, wrote an article published in Cleveland's Plain Press about how Gina DeJesus’ disappearance "changed her neighborhood."

“This is beyond comprehension," Anthony Castro told Cleveland's NBC affiliate WKYC last night. "I'm truly stunned right now.”

"Since April 2, 2004, the day 14-year-old Gina DeJesus was last seen on her way home from Wilbur Wright Middle School, neighborhood residents have been taken by an overwhelming need for caution," Castro, then a journalism student at Bowling Green University, wrote in 2004. "Parents are more strictly enforcing curfews, encouraging their children to walk in groups, or driving them to and from school when they had previously walked alone."

Castro even interviewed DeJesus' family for the piece:

Read the rest: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/anthony-castro-article-dejesus-161741407.html

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Son of captor suspect wrote article about missing woman in 2004

By Dylan Stableford, Yahoo! News | The Lookout

In a strange twist, the son of one of the men suspected of kidnapping and holding three women captive for close to a decade in a Cleveland home wrote an article about one of the missing women in 2004.

Ariel “Anthony” Castro, the 31-year-old son of 52-year-old Ariel Castro, wrote an article published in Cleveland's Plain Press about how Gina DeJesus’ disappearance "changed her neighborhood."

“This is beyond comprehension," Anthony Castro told Cleveland's NBC affiliate WKYC last night. "I'm truly stunned right now.”

"Since April 2, 2004, the day 14-year-old Gina DeJesus was last seen on her way home from Wilbur Wright Middle School, neighborhood residents have been taken by an overwhelming need for caution," Castro, then a journalism student at Bowling Green University, wrote in 2004. "Parents are more strictly enforcing curfews, encouraging their children to walk in groups, or driving them to and from school when they had previously walked alone."

Castro even interviewed DeJesus' family for the piece:

Read the rest: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/anthony-castro-article-dejesus-161741407.html

Just saw this on Yahoo and just further solidifies that these guys are some sick twisted *self censored*s

 

[WV Cowboy]

I don't understand Stockholm Syndrome either. With that said, we don't know what really went on here. And I tend to doubt somebody has Stockholm Syndrome and suddenly breaks out of it, running for her life out of the blue. So my guess is that these women were schackled and couldn't escape until now.

Just as heart breaking, .. if not more so.

 

[arglebargle]

Vigilantism seems like a great idea. Until you get the wrong person. Then you're just another murderer.

Go look at the people exonerated by DNA evidence. And that's just the cases where they happened to still have that DNA. In a bunch of those cases they were 'sure' they had the right guy.

You don't want to use the death penalty in cases of rape, because it will inevitably lead to more victim's deaths, since there's no reason not to kill as well. Your emotional satisfaction is not worth that.

Not saying these guys don't deserve it, it's just a very bad pandora's box to open up.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Vigilantism seems like a great idea. Until you get the wrong person. Then you're just another murderer.

This is not one of those cases.

The girls did not keep themselves in his house.

 

[arglebargle]

This is not one of those cases.

The girls did not keep themselves in his house.

You don't get to decide, and that's a good thing. Now I can certainly understand your reaction. There are bad folks out there who absolutely deserve to be stood up against the wall.

But, a lot of 'sure convictions' got overturned by DNA evidence.

This absolutely isn't one of those cases. But any actual vigilante response is indeed a pandora's box. Emotional satisfaction is not worth the inevitable screw ups.

 

[WV Cowboy]

You don't get to decide, and that's a good thing. Now I can certainly understand your reaction. There are bad folks out there who absolutely deserve to be stood up against the wall.

But, a lot of 'sure convictions' got overturned by DNA evidence.

This absolutely isn't one of those cases. But any actual vigilante response is indeed a pandora's box. Emotional satisfaction is not worth the inevitable screw ups.

Like I said, this is not one of those cases, .. and I'm not talking about vigilante response.

I'm talking, as a society, I wish we would stand up and show that we will not tolerate this kind of activity against our most prized possessions, our children.

Obviously, it is never good to get the wrong guy, but as hard as we try to get it right, I would rather err on that side than let just one guilty guy go to do things like this to one more child.

Especially in cases where there is no doubt, such as this one.

 

[5Stars]

Like I said, this is not one of those cases, .. and I'm not talking about vigilante response.

I'm talking, as a society, I wish we would stand up and show that we will not tolerate this kind of activity against our most prized posessions, our children.

Obviously, it is never good to get the wrong guy, but as hard as we try to get it right, I would rather err on that side than let just one guilty guy go to do things like this to one more child.

Especially in cases where there is no doubt, such as this one.

The sad thing is that they will go to prison where society will pay millions of dollars to keep those fools fed, provide for education, and hopefully insure that they are safe from other scum bags in prison! They get three meals a day, TV, outside activity maybe, and other perks that they absolutely do not deserve, while the three woman will live with PTSD for most likely the rest of their natural lives.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

The sad thing is that they will go to prison where society will pay millions of dollars to keep those fools fed, provide for education, and hopefully insure that they are safe from other scum bags in prison! They get three meals a day, TV, outside activity maybe, and other perks that they absolutely do not deserve, while the three woman will live with PTSD for most likely the rest of their natural lives.

People who act like prison is some cake walk amuse me. Killing them is the easy way out. If you want them to suffer, send them to prison. If it were in Texas they wouldn't have air conditioning nor a heater. So, what's that Mr. Prisoner? It's hot you say? Have some water. It's cold, here's a blanket. Sleep tight.

 

[WV Cowboy]

People who act like prison is some cake walk amuse me. Killing them is the easy way out. If you want them to suffer, send them to prison. If it were in Texas they wouldn't have air conditioning nor a heater. So, what's that Mr. Prisoner? It's hot you say? Have some water. It's cold, here's a blanket. Sleep tight.

Who cares if they like it or are comfortable, we still have to pay for it.

These guys should live on a dirt floor with a hole in one corner to go in.

One meal a day and one cold shower a week.

That's it.

At least for the first 10 years, one for each year those girls endured.

 

[5Stars]

People who act like prison is some cake walk amuse me. Killing them is the easy way out. If you want them to suffer, send them to prison. If it were in Texas they wouldn't have air conditioning nor a heater. So, what's that Mr. Prisoner? It's hot you say? Have some water. It's cold, here's a blanket. Sleep tight.

This is not Turkey, this is the USA, and prisoners get taken care of regardless of how much TV you may have watched. That is unless you have experience being in prison? Do you?

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

This is not Turkey, this is the USA, and prisoners get taken care of regardless of how much TV you may have watched. That is unless you have experience being in prison? Do you?

We have different definitions of get taken care of. If by get taken care of you mean they get to endure gang violence, sexual assault and extreme temperatures, then I guess we take care of them.