Fantastic Interview of Charles Ramsey (guy who found Amanda Berry and Gina DeJesus)

[WoodysGirl]

Bomani Jones ‏@bomani_jones 1h
i'd love to know what charles ramsey learned between 2003 and this week. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/cleveland-hero-charles-ramsey-8702415 …

and now comes the philosophical discussion of what to do when the hero is a deeply flawed man. and a lotta rescinded attaboys.

i'm big on letting ppl outlive their mistakes. ramsey's is so ironic, though. a bowie-esque hero, one might argue.

all the same, bet those women only cared ramsey wasn't ariel castro. anyway, let's see how this goes.

speaking of which, if uncle charles wants the ladies to get the reward, he better take it and disburse it himself. make sure, yanno?

sorry, but a convicted batterer saving three women he thought were being battered is fascinating. not to you? oh well.

but great men are hard to find. in moments, men who do great things more than suffice. but ramsey appears even more compelling.

so, being compelled as i am, i'd love to know what happened between jail and heroism. bet there's a great story.

two reasons... RT @MrGarnett: Just wondering why your helping to expose Ramsey's pass as if its relevant in anyway?

1. if i ignore it, i just get asked about it anyway. 2. i'm a writer. in the story business. and this is a BIG detail, ok?

shades of gray, man. and from the jump, ramsey has been a study in gray. try a lil nuance. it's good for you, i swear.

we also live in a country that marks felons forever as irredeemable. well, a felon was a hero this week. shades of gray...

but how can i make a point close to my heart -- man's capacity to improve -- without mentioning the black and white? right?

 

[theogt]

I guess it's right that since he committed those crimes 10+ years ago, he can't be celebrated for saving lives today. I almost felt good about him giving the reward money away to the victims, but who can stand to even look at the guy now that we know he's not perfect?

 

[5Stars]

I guess it's right that since he committed those crimes 10+ years ago, he can't be celebrated for saving lives today. I almost felt good about him giving the reward money away to the victims, but who can stand to even look at the guy now that we know he's not perfect?

Nobody is...




(stupid cowboy fans)

 

[muck4doo]

How quick we are to tear a hero down.

 

[CATCH17]

What crimes did Ramsey committ?

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I guess it's right that since he committed those crimes 10+ years ago, he can't be celebrated for saving lives today. I almost felt good about him giving the reward money away to the victims, but who can stand to even look at the guy now that we know he's not perfect?

Nobody is...




(stupid cowboy fans)

You two, get a room.

 

[CATCH17]

The 911 dispatchers on those calls make me irate.

I can't believe that lady wouldn't stay on the line with her and told her they would send a car when one was available.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I'm sure had the operator known who it truly was that it would have been handled differently.

This operator may not have even known who Amanda Berry was, and if she did remember the case, she might have initially thought it was a prank.

It had been 10 years!

She did get police called in :18 seconds or something, and there on the scene in under two minutes.

 

[CATCH17]

I'm sure had the operator known who it truly was that it would have been handled differently.

This operator may not have even known who Amanda Berry was, and if she did remember the case, she might have initially thought it was a prank.

It had been 10 years!

She did get police called in :18 seconds or something, and there on the scene in under two minutes.

Man I don't care. When you have that position you better take every single call serious.

Charles Ramsey's 911 call is just as bad.

If someone is having that much panic in their voice you can't just hang up and tell them "we'll send a car when one is available."

 

[WV Cowboy]

Man I don't care. When you have that position you better take every single call serious.

You are right, .. but once again, she did not know she was actually talking to someone who had been held as a kidnapped sex slave for 10 years.

Taking every call serious is easier said than done I'm sure.

When you search "911 calls", you see topics such as:

• hilarious calls
• stupid calls
• wacky calls
• funny calls
• bad calls
• dumb calls
• crazy calls

And like I said, .. she got the police there in under two minutes, which is what Amanda needed.

I hear ya, but consider all things, and cut her some slack.

 

[Tabascocat]

Interesting.......first I have heard of this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...a-berry-neighbor_n_3246169.html?ncid=webmail1

 

[WoodysGirl]

Interesting.......first I have heard of this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...a-berry-neighbor_n_3246169.html?ncid=webmail1

I'm pretty sure I read it in the initial story that another person helped to break the door open. Not sure why he didn't come out in the first place. Someone mentioned he ran off. *shrug*

It really doesn't matter to me who got there first, as long as the women got out. But I know some will work towards establishing who gets the "proper credit"

 

[WoodysGirl]

Woman held captive in Cleveland home rebuffs mother, grandmother

[URL="http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/FZN6924R0WZ__x92.x6.GA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9Zml0O2g9Mjc-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/logo/reuters/d0c3eb8ca18907492a4b337b5cec5193.jpeg"] [/URL]By Kim Palmer | Reuters – 3 hrs ago

By Kim Palmer

CLEVELAND (Reuters) - Michelle Knight, the longest-held captive in a dungeon-like Cleveland house, is free after 11 years. But she remains hospitalized and is shunning visits from relatives, some of whom thought she was a runaway when she vanished.

Neither Knight's grandmother nor her mother, who moved to Florida but flew back to Cleveland this week, have seen her.

"No, we haven't - on her request. She does not want to be seen by family," Deborah Knight, the grandmother, told Reuters.

One of Michelle's two brothers, Freddie Knight, did go to the hospital and visited with his sister immediately after the three women were found. The women were held inside the home except for two occasions when they were taken to a garage on the small property, police have said.

"Her skin was white as a ghost," said Freddie Knight. "She told me she was excited to start a new life."

Read the rest: http://news.yahoo.com/woman-held-captive-cleveland-home-rebuffs-mother-grandmother-223423744.html

 

[WV Cowboy]

I just can't stop thinking about those poor girls, and what they must have gone through in that house for such a long time.

Can you imagine, each of them in their room, (the room they get raped in) the house is quiet, each with their own thoughts and pain.

But at least it is a down time, a quiet time, ... and then they hear the back door slam.

He's back.

Time after time, day after day, month after month, year after year.

It can be extremely traumatic for a woman to get raped even once. I can't imagine.

We should be going out of our way to make that guy uncomfortable continuously.

Make sure his clothes are wet, make sure his room is either cold or hot, make sure his bed is hard and his sleep is interrupted, make sure his food sucks, make sure his drink is bitter.

He should never be able to find comfort.

We owe those girls that much.

 

[Questfor6]

I just can't stop thinking about those poor girls, and what they must have gone through in that house for such a long time.

Can you imagine, each of them in their room, (the room they get raped in) the house is quiet, each with their own thoughts and pain.

But at least it is a down time, a quiet time, ... and then they hear the back door slam.

He's back.

Time after time, day after day, month after month, year after year.

It can be extremely traumatic for a woman to get raped even once. I can't imagine.

We should be going out of our way to make that guy uncomfortable continuously.

Make sure his clothes are wet, make sure his room is either cold or hot, make sure his bed is hard and his sleep is interrupted, make sure his food sucks, make sure his drink is bitter.

He should never be able to find comfort.

We owe those girls that much.

Not to mention all 3 of these girls had the glory years life taken away. None of them were able to graduate high school and go off to college like the normal 18 year old, just sad that we have such sick individuals breathing the same air as us.

 

[FiveRings]

I imagine this is exactly how Leon from Curb would react in a similar situation