Fate of Davis - Board Says?

ABQCOWBOY said:
Had he never been out at 5 AM in the morning, "On his way to Church" apparently, he never would have been shot. Had he been focused on staying out of potential trouble situations, he probably would have elected to not be on the streets at 5 in the AM.

I'm not making anything up. I'm simply laying out what has already been reported.

I have yet to see any where that this was a team party or that any other players where there. I have seen it was a private party that is it.
 
Doomsday101 said:
I have yet to see any where that this was a team party or that any other players where there. I have seen it was a private party that is it.

NFL Players Party I heard. Other Cowboys were also in attendance, I think. Read it here.
 
How about cut him because he's a crappy safety? When the game was on the line Parcells couldn't trust him (witness Pile seeing the significant important minutes late in the year) and now this and Parcells is supposed to trust him?

Carter got canned because he couldn't be trusted.



I am getting tired of the infantile minds crying "nobody's proved he's done anything wrong." He may be an innocent victim of the gunshot wounds, but any way you look at it, he lied to the police and not only is that "wrong", it's a criminal act in every jurisdiction I've ever seen.
 
Funxva said:
NFL Players Party I heard. Other Cowboys were also in attendance, I think. Read it here.

I have read it here just not any articles, I read the article and said private party but have yet to see any publications say it was an NFL Player Party. If you can find a link I would like to read it.
 
StanleySpadowski said:
How about cut him because he's a crappy safety? When the game was on the line Parcells couldn't trust him (witness Pile seeing the significant important minutes late in the year) and now this and Parcells is supposed to trust him?

Well, that I can get on board with. But then, I find myself longing for Dwight Smith again.

I am getting tired of the infantile minds crying "nobody's proved he's done anything wrong." He may be an innocent victim of the gunshot wounds, but any way you look at it, he lied to the police and not only is that "wrong", it's a criminal act in every jurisdiction I've ever seen.

Noone is defending that. There is a distinction, in the two areas, though. And very few "great" minds are saying "Let's cut him because he lied to the police." It's much more fun to jump to unfounded conclusions.
 
78 votes, and not a single voter thinks he's the long-term answer at FS.
 
superpunk said:
Brilliant logic. :rolleyes:

I'm planning on writing an espose'. The tentative title is "Driving Early in the Morning - Leading cause of Getting Shot Among Mediocre Free Safety's."

Would you mind being my interview reference?



I'll consider it. Just as soon as you tell me what "espose'" is. LOL..... Nice.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
I'll consider it. Just as soon as you tell me what "espose'" is. LOL..... Nice.

I think that's spanish for wife. ;)
 
Nav22 said:
78 votes, and not a single voter thinks he's the long-term answer at FS.

That, to me, is the most telling answer in what Davis' fate should ultimatly be but that is just my opinion.
 
StanleySpadowski said:
How about cut him because he's a crappy safety? When the game was on the line Parcells couldn't trust him (witness Pile seeing the significant important minutes late in the year) and now this and Parcells is supposed to trust him?

Carter got canned because he couldn't be trusted.



I am getting tired of the infantile minds crying "nobody's proved he's done anything wrong." He may be an innocent victim of the gunshot wounds, but any way you look at it, he lied to the police and not only is that "wrong", it's a criminal act in every jurisdiction I've ever seen.

I agree.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
I'll consider it. Just as soon as you tell me what "espose'" is. LOL..... Nice.
Awexome. It'x not like the "s" and "x" are cloxe together, or anything. Xo pleaxe, escuxe me for the xpelling error.
 
superpunk said:
Awexome. It'x not like the "s" and "x" are cloxe together, or anything. Xo pleaxe, escuxe me for the xpelling error.

So it's not Spanish for wife?

El Bummero
 
superpunk said:
Awexome. It'x not like the "s" and "x" are cloxe together, or anything. Xo pleaxe, escuxe me for the xpelling error.

NP. I'm a terrible speller my self so no big deal.

However, in the end, my beef is not that he got shot or even that he was less then truthful with the police. My beef is that he should have been smart enough to be focused on being ready to play football. He, more then anybody else on the team, should be concious of the fact that he can't afford to screw up in a "wrong place, wrong time" situation. What does he do? He puts himself in a situation where the odds of that happening are much more likely then if he just cooled out and got himself ready to play football. You may view this as an innocent happenstans but in my view, he wasn't smart enough or disciplined enough to avoid the potential situation. I would probably be more inclined to give the benifit of the doubt if it were the very first incident but it's not and he's received the warning. He elected to take his chances with the party or the out all night or whatever the situation that lead to the moonlight drive. They came up snake eyes for him. It's the chance he took. Nobodies fault but his own.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
NP. I'm a terrible speller my self so no big deal.

However, in the end, my beef is not that he got shot or even that he was less then truthful with the police. My beef is that he should have been smart enough to be focused on being ready to play football. He, more then anybody else on the team, should be concious of the fact that he can't afford to screw up in a "wrong place, wrong time" situation. What does he do? He puts himself in a situation where the odds of that happening are much more likely then if he just cooled out and got himself ready to play football. You may view this as an innocent happenstans but in my view, he wasn't smart enough or disciplined enough to avoid the potential situation. I would probably be more inclined to give the benifit of the doubt if it were the very first incident but it's not and he's received the warning. He elected to take his chances with the party or the out all night or whatever the situation that lead to the moonlight drive. They came up snake eyes for him. It's the chance he took. Nobodies fault but his own.
So you think going to a party should have been eliminated from Davis' life after the first time? This is a misnomer, because for all we know, the party had nothing to do with him getting shot. You also assume, in your post, that Davis was capable of avoiding this situation. This suggests that somehow, Davis should have known that driving on a freeway at 5 am leads to trouble - when in fact, that is rarely the case.

I'm not saying you aren't ultimately right.

But right now - ALOT of you are jumping straight to a baseless conclusion.
 
superpunk said:
So you think going to a party should have been eliminated from Davis' life after the first time? This is a misnomer, because for all we know, the party had nothing to do with him getting shot. You also assume, in your post, that Davis was capable of avoiding this situation. This suggests that somehow, Davis should have known that driving on a freeway at 5 am leads to trouble - when in fact, that is rarely the case.

I'm not saying you aren't ultimately right.

But right now - ALOT of you are jumping straight to a baseless conclusion.

I think it is you who are jumping to conclusions. I never said the party was the cause. In fact, I said whatever it was. The fact of the matter is that if he had not been at the wrong place, at the wrong time, at 5 AM in the morning, he would not be in this situation.

Lets say he was driving down the street at 5 PM and he managed to get himself shot. If that had happened, it is probably going to be viewed as a bit more random of a thing. The benifit of the doubt would probably come into play a bit more. That's not the case. Now, because you were out, because you lied to the police and to the team, your leaving yourself at the mercy of Bill and Jerry's scrutiney of the situations. How do you think they will view this in light of his past? He has created room for serious doubt through his decisions and actions. He is stupid because he is not smart enough to recognize the potential ramifications of things happening in relations to his circumstances. That's just how it is. You can agree or disagree but that's how it works and there is no getting around it. Sorry.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
OK, edited my post to make it a poll.

My vote, not intelligent enough. Cut him loose.
I'll say he has to shine like a diamond or he is a casualty of his own actions.
 

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