Father claims the six grams of cocaine does not belong to Matt Jones

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FuzzyLumpkins;2143128 said:
what conspiracy theory the autopsy was inconclusive as such any interpretation is valid. they gave a probable cause but no definite.

in other words, they have no idea

FuzzyLumpkins said:
And possession of any controlled substance not pot is a felony possession. if i get caught with one mushroom its a felony. distribution is irrelevant.

then how come the other 2 occupants of the vehicle were charged w/ misdemeanors?
 

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Bob Sacamano;2143141 said:
in other words, they have no idea



then how come the other 2 occupants of the vehicle were charged w/ misdemeanors?


Sacman - He was driving car in posession of cocaine. When or if convicted it is what is. He is no "victim" here.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2143141 said:
in other words, they have no idea



then how come the other 2 occupants of the vehicle were charged w/ misdemeanors?

i would assume that it was public intoxification or something of that nature. all i know is there is no such thing as a misdemeanor possession of cocaine.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2143166 said:
i would assume that it was public intoxification or something of that nature. all i know is there is no such thing as a misdemeanor possession of cocaine.

he was actually charged w/ felony possession of a controlled substance

the other 2 were charged w/ misdemeanor drug paraphenilia possession
 

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Bob Sacamano;2143172 said:
he was actually charged w/ felony possession of a controlled substance

the other 2 were charged w/ misdemeanor drug paraphenilia possession

A paraphernalia charge is a general charge and not related to the possession. I actually wouldnt be surprised if Jones doesnt get one of them to cop to the possession charge.
 

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Gryphon;2142505 said:
Jags WR Matt Jones' father claims the six grams of cocaine found in Jones' vehicle did not belong to Jones.

No word on whether or not the credit card he was using to chop up the cocaine was his. Jones himself has declined to comment on advice of his attorney, but he did admit the drugs were his at the time of his arrest. Both he and the Jaguars could be facing punishment from the league as the Jags have been involved in nine arrests since 2006.
Source: Florida Times Union

I just knew there was a rush to judgment.

Thank goodness it did not belong to Matt, cash cow to father.
 

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abersonc;2142569 said:
6 grams?

Holy crap. That's not casual use.

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he begs to differ
 

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abersonc;2143070 said:
dude, as I said -- casual users -- no freaking way a casual user is buying nearly an 8-ball and doing it in one night - that suggests that someone in the party is a serious head.

Well, I've been around that block once or twice too. An 8 ball would be considered just about the minimum you would want to have in your pocket if you are planning to party with even one other person. A 1/4 oz would be much better but even that won't last if you are turning on a couple two three friends.

Like Fuzzy said, once you start laying out the lines the party will go on as long as you have the lines to lay out. A 1/4 oz is EASY to blow through in a night of partying with friends. I've never been a coke freak although I have done it a bunch over the years. I think I am defined as being even less then a casual user. The last time I bought some though I bought a 1/4 oz. It didn't see daylight.

I also don't really like it for the same reasons Fuzzy stated.. The first line is a great but your just playing catch up from that point on.

Anyone doing lines in a car parked in a "known drug area" is an idiot.
 

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Vtwin;2143242 said:
Well, I've been around that block once or twice too. An 8 ball would be considered just about the minimum you would want to have in your pocket if you are planning to party with even one other person. A 1/4 oz would be much better but even that won't last if you are turning on a couple two three friends.

Again, those are amounts that folks who've been "around the block" would be into, not guys who have little history with using. Folks work up to those amounts, again suggesting that someone in the group had a history with the drug.
 

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abersonc;2143260 said:
Again, those are amounts that folks who've been "around the block" would be into, not guys who have little history with using. Folks work up to those amounts, again suggesting that someone in the group had a history with the drug.

I don't drink that often, but I have a history of drinking, since I have drank before.

I also buy my liquor in big *** bottles from a discount place to save some cash.
 

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stealth;2143271 said:
I don't drink that often, but I have a history of drinking, since I have drank before.

I also buy my liquor in big *** bottles from a discount place to save some cash.

yes, but you aren't storing something that can get you put in jail now are you?
 

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abersonc;2143260 said:
Again, those are amounts that folks who've been "around the block" would be into, not guys who have little history with using. Folks work up to those amounts, again suggesting that someone in the group had a history with the drug.

then again, most people aren't professional athletes making millions of dollars a year.
 

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abersonc;2143273 said:
yes, but you aren't storing something that can get you put in jail now are you?


do you think drug users really care that the drug is illegal?

once you make that transition cocaine is prolly just as normal to see as pepto.

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stealth;2143275 said:
do you think drug users really care that the drug is illegal?

once you make that transition cocaine is prolly just as normal to see as pepto.

So you are making my point for me here -- I said this amount of use suggests someone who does it somewhat regularly.
 

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abersonc;2143282 said:
So you are making my point for me here -- I said this amount of use suggests someone who does it somewhat regularly.

no, not at all.

Only that he did it before much like I have drank before.

Once I drank a few times I didn't think twice about drinking again, was something I was comfortable with, but I was never a regular user.
 

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"One of today's most serious health problems, the risk of cocaine addiction is high after even a brief period of casual use, and recovery from addiction is extremely difficult." Source: Minnesota Partnership Team Finds Cocaine Antidote, Mayo Clinic, 1/24/08, Link
 

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How long does cocaine stay in the body?
  • Some people who are interested in the answer to this question are concerned about passing a drug test. And this is a very difficult question to answer accurately. Cocaine, because it is water-soluble, travels through the body rather quickly. The general rule of thumb is 1 to 7 days, depending upon the size and metabolism of the person. It can also be affected by how much cocaine was ingested over what time period. As far as passing a drug test is concerned, there is no guaranteed right amount of time either. It would depend largely upon the above-mentioned variable and the type and sophistication of the test. Cocaine could be detected in the hair follicles, for example, for as long as the hair had been growing.
Source: Cocaine Questions and Answers, Cocaine Drug Addiction, Link
 

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]In August 2007, the Executive Policy & Strategic Planning Staff (ADS), supported by the Statistical Services Section (FRS), analyzed 11,586 domestic cocaine purchases recorded in STRIDE* since April 2005 (523.4 kilograms, 356.6 kilograms pure). The results of this analysis show that since December 2006, cocaine prices have increased, while purity has declined.[/SIZE][/FONT]​
  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]From January through June 2007, the average price per pure gram of all domestic cocaine purchases increased 24 per cent, from $95.89 to $118.70, while purity fell 11 per cent, from 67 per cent to 59 per cent. [/SIZE][/FONT]
  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]From January through June 2007, the retail (involving amounts up to ten grams) price per pure gram of cocaine increased 15 per cent, from $145.42 to $166.90. [/SIZE][/FONT]
  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]From January through June 2007, the mid-level wholesale (involving amounts between one and ten ounces) price per pure gram of cocaine increased 33 per cent, from $53.09 to $70.39. [/SIZE][/FONT]
  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]From January through June 2007, the wholesale (involving amounts of one kilogram or more) price per pure gram of cocaine increased 11 per cent, from $20.85 to $23.04. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]To corroborate the above STRIDE findings, ADS also examined National Forensic Laboratory Information System (NFLIS) data and identified 6,613 cocaine purchases/seizures wherein, from January through June 2007, purity also fell, by six per cent, from 56 to 53 per cent.[/SIZE][/FONT]

Source: Cocaine Price/Purity Analysis of Stride Data, U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, Link
 

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juckie;2143045 said:
u r clueless.must have stayed inside most of ur 20s.lol

Listen junkie, did my lack of booting drugs mean I missed out on all the fun? LMAO! What a loser. I guess staying up all night drinking vodka & sorting lines until noon was fun right? LOL.

The point you dopes missed was junkies do anything they can get their hands on. I have seen meth heads crush and shoot valium. I am just not stupid enough to glorify it like you schmucks. I have since learned how uncool it was.

I called him Kurt as a joke. Not because of which drug. LMAO. Fools. Because like you you seem to think its cool to share. Its not. It doesnt matter. You're discussing degrees of being a dope? Like its hard to figure out whats going on with a guy cutting lines with a credit card in his car outside a bar. Obviously a novice. :rolleyes:
 
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