Father claims the six grams of cocaine does not belong to Matt Jones

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FuzzyLumpkins;2142843 said:
Again people should not talk about things they have no idea about.

6 g is a gram less than a quarter ounce or two 8 balls. That missing gram probably was already up his friend and his nose.

If it was just for him then yeah that would be a lot but if you are going to a party or even hanging out with a few friends and are planning to bust out then that will be gone in a matter of a few hours. That is casual use.

If you are dealing and planning on doing it a QZ at a time youre an idiot. Youll be selling 20s all day long and having people bang on your door at 5 AM all the time.

If you are going to say WOW THATS a lot of blow start thinking 30 grams not 6.

2 8-balls for 3 dudes is serious partying bro.cmon.
 

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dooomsday;2142981 said:
Yes, I am sure as a heroin addict he was anti toot. Thanks Dr. Love.

u r clueless.must have stayed inside most of ur 20s.lol
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2142843 said:
Again people should not talk about things they have no idea about.

6 g is a gram less than a quarter ounce or two 8 balls. That missing gram probably was already up his friend and his nose.

If it was just for him then yeah that would be a lot but if you are going to a party or even hanging out with a few friends and are planning to bust out then that will be gone in a matter of a few hours. That is casual use.

If you are dealing and planning on doing it a QZ at a time youre an idiot. Youll be selling 20s all day long and having people bang on your door at 5 AM all the time.

If you are going to say WOW THATS a lot of blow start thinking 30 grams not 6.

Word. I know some people who have sneezed at the wrong time and blown more than 6 grams right off the mirror, lol.
 

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juckie;2143041 said:
2 8-balls for 3 dudes is serious partying bro.cmon.


As someone who read a book about serious partying, I can tell you 6 grams between 2 dudes that have experience doing it isn't that much.

on a side note this thread blows

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Bob Sacamano;2143034 said:
doesn't matter actual intent, that's enough to get charged for intent to distribute

I never knew that you were an expert in Arkansas drug statutes. I know in Texas it doesnt default to that unless its possession of at least 4 ounces. Anything under that they have to provide evidence that there was said intent. Im not sure what it is in Arkansas but hey I guess you do...

Bob Sacamano;2143037 said:
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And why do you think they believe it? There was no preexisting diagnosis but at the same time the amount in his blood stream was not consistent with the amount doctors associate with an overdoes. Thats why the coroner said the cause of death was inconclusive because they could not be sure.
 

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Kangaroo;2143026 said:
I thought he was snorting his life away :liarliar:

It's slang... snow blowing is what it was called where I'm from.... hence, "blowing his life away". What the heck is with the Pinocchio nose anyway?
 

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Dcz84;2142681 said:
Sure it is, thats less then 2 eight balls. 3-4 ppl can blow through 2-3 eight balls in 1 night easy.

not if the stuff is any good....
 

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juckie;2143041 said:
2 8-balls for 3 dudes is serious partying bro.cmon.

granted but at the same time who on earth sits in a car and does an entire QZ. They were going somewhere or had arrived somewhere. Now they broke one of the cardinal rules, dont bust out stuff in a parked car, but at the same time I doubt very seriously they were planning on it just being the two of them.
 

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abersonc;2143060 said:
not if the stuff is any good....

you have no idea what youre talking about. ive done it myself with stuff that came straight off of a block. When you start using cuts like lithophan baking soda etc you have to chop it up so when it becomes a powder and its obvious.

Now it took us all night and into the morning but you have no idea what youre talking about.
 

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if i am not mistaken, any amount of cocaine is a felony, regardless if its less than 1 gram or a brick. either way hes in serious trouble. luckily for him, he can afford a good attorney.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2143064 said:
you have no idea what youre talking about. ive done it myself with stuff that came straight off of a block. When you start using cuts like lithophan baking soda etc you have to chop it up so when it becomes a powder and its obvious.

Now it took us all night and into the morning but you have no idea what youre talking about.

dude, as I said -- casual users -- no freaking way a casual user is buying nearly an 8-ball and doing it in one night - that suggests that someone in the party is a serious head.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2143020 said:
Oh and FWIW heres an article indicating that most people believed that he had a preexisting heart condition that was undiscovered. Thats why after that event NBA teams really started going overboard on testing prospects cardiac health.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=bias
Actually in that article its said that when the news first broke out that he had died that most speculated that he must have had a heart problem, that was before they found out that he had taken cocaine.
 

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abersonc;2143070 said:
dude, as I said -- casual users -- no freaking way a casual user is buying nearly an 8-ball and doing it in one night - that suggests that someone in the party is a serious head.

Casual generally means during infrequent intervals. When you call someone a head to me that normally means they do it all the time.

There is nothing here that says he does it all the time. I have no question that he has done it before but at the end of the day that is about $200 worth of blow.
 

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speedkilz88;2143075 said:
Actually in that article its said that when the news first broke out that he had died that most speculated that he must have had a heart problem, that was before they found out that he had taken cocaine.

Wow, if you combine the cocaine knowledge in this forum, it surpasses that of the Columbian Cartel. Impressive or sad? The world may never know.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2143083 said:
Casual generally means during infrequent intervals. When you call someone a head to me that normally means they do it all the time.

There is nothing here that says he does it all the time. I have no question that he has done it before but at the end of the day that is about $200 worth of blow.

If you look at the previous thread, folks were talking about whether he's a regular user or just a "got drunk and scored some in the bathroom" - you have to admit, the guy who rarely uses is not looking to an 8 as his purchase option. you've got to have a history to go with that sort of amount.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2143054 said:
I never knew that you were an expert in Arkansas drug statutes. I know in Texas it doesnt default to that unless its possession of at least 4 ounces. Anything under that they have to provide evidence that there was said intent. Im not sure what it is in Arkansas but hey I guess you do...

all I'm saying is it doesn't matter if it appears that Matt Jones is using the coke for his own consumption, an amount that is deemed having an intent to distribute will be interpreted as such, which is why he's facing a felony charge, instead of a simple misdemeanor for possession

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And why do you think they believe it? There was no preexisting diagnosis but at the same time the amount in his blood stream was not consistent with the amount doctors associate with an overdoes. Thats why the coroner said the cause of death was inconclusive because they could not be sure.

it's called conspiracy theories
 

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Being that I am from Arkansas and have been popped with coke before, anything over one gram is considered intent to distibute. The intent however is easily rebuffed in a situation like this. Matt Jones is being charged with a class Y felony, and if he goes to court on a class Y he will have no option at a plea bargain. Tuesday July 15th will be 9 years to the day that I was busted,and it was the best thing to ever happen to me. I have been drug free since. I got off on all charges because the crime lab lost or tainted the evidence. The last thing I will say is this, 6 grams of coccaine is a lot given that any amount is illegal. I hope for Matt Jones sake that he can learn from his mistake.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2143112 said:
all I'm saying is it doesn't matter if it appears that Matt Jones is using the coke for his own consumption, an amount that is deemed having an intent to distribute will be interpreted as such, which is why he's facing a felony charge, instead of a simple misdemeanor for possession



it's called conspiracy theories

what conspiracy theory the autopsy was inconclusive as such any interpretation is valid. they gave a probable cause but no definite.

And possession of any controlled substance not pot is a felony possession. if i get caught with one mushroom its a felony. distribution is irrelevant.
 

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abersonc;2143103 said:
If you look at the previous thread, folks were talking about whether he's a regular user or just a "got drunk and scored some in the bathroom" - you have to admit, the guy who rarely uses is not looking to an 8 as his purchase option. you've got to have a history to go with that sort of amount.

Hes on what amounts to vacation time for NFL players. All this proves is that he got a lot of blow that one night not that he gets it all the time.

I could care less what other people say. Its not relevant to the truth.
 
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