Fedor: The Baddest Man On The Planet
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soko gets tapped again.
Dan Lo is a acting baby with the low blows
Barnett dominant again but props to Gilbert for showing a lot of heart
Vitor almost killed Lindland. It looked like he knocked him into a stroke
Fedor remains the best fighter in the world. Alovski's 300 leonidis beard couldn't save him.
Tito's head is still huge.
Fedor will defeat Barnett.
Dan Lo is a acting baby with the low blows
Barnett dominant again but props to Gilbert for showing a lot of heart
Vitor almost killed Lindland. It looked like he knocked him into a stroke
Fedor remains the best fighter in the world. Alovski's 300 leonidis beard couldn't save him.
Tito's head is still huge.
Fedor will defeat Barnett.
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Barnett just plays right into Fedor's strengths, he has no chance in a stand up fight and Fedor has the better ground game.
Arlovski was probably the one fighter that had an outside shot of beating him i can't think of a single fighter that would have a chance now
Arlovski was probably the one fighter that had an outside shot of beating him i can't think of a single fighter that would have a chance now
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CATCH17;2601124 said:
Lesnar maybe due to his size and speed and power, Mir and Couture no.
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the kid 05;2601215 said:
Im not making the mistake of doubting Frank Mir right now.
He is rediculously good when he trains for it and that pains me to say.
Couture is still the man too. If Lesnar wasn't such a big Powerful beast he would've won that fight because he basically beat Lesnar for most of the fight.
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and would do the same if they fought again. Couture has always struggled with big wrestlers. Frank Mir would get smashed by Fedor. Lesnar is big but too green in mma and would get whooped probably submitted. Couture would get tim sylvia'd by Fedor. Fedor is king.MrMom;2601367 said:
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CATCH17;2601234 said:
Someone needs to watch more than UFC.
Barnett already stopped Couture 7 years ago. Now Barnett would get beaten by a 46 year old Couture?
Barnett will give Fedor problems though because of Fedor's poor takedowns and Barnett's top control. It will be a ground fight because Barnett is not stupid enough to strike with Fedor. Barnett's shoot wrestling background could possibly be enough to help stop Fedor's transition game as well. It's definitely an interesting matchup because I'm not for sure if Fedor has ever faced a well trained veteran with a top game like Barnett's yet.
If Alexander Karelin was not an elected official in Russia, training with someone like him would do wonders to stop a bigger and stronger wrestler like Barnett.
And why do people want to see Lesnar versus Fedor? On the feet, Fedor is too crisp and accurate for Lesnar. This means Lesnar is going to look for the takedown against Fedor, which he can and will get all day. But the thing is, a green fighter going to the ground with Fedor is like feeding chum to the sharks. I think in Fedor's last few fights it has caused people to forget how lightning quick Fedor's transitions are on the ground.
Go back to the HMC fight. A 370lbs man sitting on top of Fedor in his guard beginning to work GnP. Choi gets lazy, leaves an arm out -- BOOM, armbar.
The Randleman fight. Fedor gets literally back-body dropped on his head (YouTube the fight if you have not seen it) and Randleman gains side-control. He then goes north-south. Not 5 seconds after Randleman gets north-south position, Fedor is out and then gains top position himself.
You could go on, but you get the point.
Fedor would absolutely maul a fighter with no history of submission defense. Unlike Barnett, Brock has not endured countless shoot-wrestling matches (some of the most dangerous submission artists in the world train this), MMA matches and sparring. Lesnar needs to train for quite a while before he is ready for the transition and submission game of someone like Fedor. Heck, most heavyweights out there still need to train for quite a while before they are ready on the ground for someone like Fedor.
Lesnar is what he is right now -- a behemoth with heavy hands and great wrestling. He's not a technical striker, which Fedor is. He's not a submission artist, which Fedor is.
A match between Lesnar and Fedor would end the same as Arlovski did, Kevin Randleman's did or even Mark Hunt's did. A fighter seemingly begins to do well versus Fedor, gets overconfident and Fedor pounces to end the fight in a hurry.
That's probably the greatest thing about Fedor, you damm near have to be perfect to beat the guy. You can put him in any bad spot imaginable and he NEVER panics. On the feet, you can witness him getting picked apart like last night and he has that same stone look on his face. The Hunt fight where he is got in a deep keylock, twice, and he has that same look on his face.
Let Lesnar earn his stripes before you put him in there with Fedor.
I mean, damm, it would be like asking a young Lou Gehrig to go out-hit a prime Babe Ruth.
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Just a few notes:
Arlovski dominated that Fedor fight til he got cocky and tried to throw a stupid flying knee. He was by far the better boxer but Fedor knows how to win and he knew the flying knee was coming so he waited, timed it and then rocked Arlovski.
To beat Fedor you have to out think him. No one else is as relaxed. Mike Tyson once said everyone has a plan til they get hit in the mouth. Fedor is so good because he still has that plan even while getting hit in the mouth.
UFC has crap for heavyweights. Couture was awesome but age takes its toll as does fighting once in 2 years. Lesner is no where near the level of a top guy. He just doesn't have the experience. He is a white Kimbo Slice with some wrestling background. Lesner hasn't won the majority of any of his fights over name opponents. Mir controlled and then submitted him, and Couture was winning easily until he got rocked.
Lesner has no real size advantage over guys like Barnett, Syliva and Arlovski.
Barnett, Lesner would be awesome imho. The UFC is too cheap to get top heavyweights in house and they prevent their own guys from going outside UFC. That Lesner with his limited MMA background has fought for a title is a huge joke.
In the last sherdog ranking for heavyweight the UFC had no one higher than Mir at 4.
Pound for pound Fedor is the best.
Silva is impressive but he hasn't beaten anyone and the Spider isn't getting tested anytime soon. His best win is over Dan Henderson and at 185-205 weight class there is no excuse for not facing better competition. In PRIDE where a lot of the top fighters came from he was hardly unbeaten. He went 3-2 but lost his last 2 fights there.
What I think will happen is GSP easily handles Penn and then GSP moves up to 185 to fight Silva as the most compelling test for both guys. GSP has learned how to fight and Silva would get challenged by someone as strong as him.
Anyways MMA is great and the only sport I really can be addicted to outside football.
Arlovski dominated that Fedor fight til he got cocky and tried to throw a stupid flying knee. He was by far the better boxer but Fedor knows how to win and he knew the flying knee was coming so he waited, timed it and then rocked Arlovski.
To beat Fedor you have to out think him. No one else is as relaxed. Mike Tyson once said everyone has a plan til they get hit in the mouth. Fedor is so good because he still has that plan even while getting hit in the mouth.
UFC has crap for heavyweights. Couture was awesome but age takes its toll as does fighting once in 2 years. Lesner is no where near the level of a top guy. He just doesn't have the experience. He is a white Kimbo Slice with some wrestling background. Lesner hasn't won the majority of any of his fights over name opponents. Mir controlled and then submitted him, and Couture was winning easily until he got rocked.
Lesner has no real size advantage over guys like Barnett, Syliva and Arlovski.
Barnett, Lesner would be awesome imho. The UFC is too cheap to get top heavyweights in house and they prevent their own guys from going outside UFC. That Lesner with his limited MMA background has fought for a title is a huge joke.
In the last sherdog ranking for heavyweight the UFC had no one higher than Mir at 4.
Pound for pound Fedor is the best.
Silva is impressive but he hasn't beaten anyone and the Spider isn't getting tested anytime soon. His best win is over Dan Henderson and at 185-205 weight class there is no excuse for not facing better competition. In PRIDE where a lot of the top fighters came from he was hardly unbeaten. He went 3-2 but lost his last 2 fights there.
What I think will happen is GSP easily handles Penn and then GSP moves up to 185 to fight Silva as the most compelling test for both guys. GSP has learned how to fight and Silva would get challenged by someone as strong as him.
Anyways MMA is great and the only sport I really can be addicted to outside football.
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Rampage;2605656 said:Lesnar was dominating Mir until the ref saved him and Couture was losing that fight than got dropped.
That Ref has it out for Mir.
I thought he was about to have to kill Couture for that fight to get stopped.
I hate Mazzigatti (sp)