Felix Jones Highlights

[CATCH17]

you could say the same about the guy out of Oregon

I like the guy out of Oregon too. The only thing that scares me about him is he doesn't play to his size.

He kinda reminds me of Deuce Staley.

 

[kilz]

I was not that impressed with his highlight video.

I didn't see him make many people miss or break many tackles. Speed and quickness to the outside seem to be is only real strength.

I watched Chris Johnson's vidoe afterward and was much more impressed.

If J. Stewart falls to 22, grab him. Otherwise, no RB in the first please.

 

[Doomsday101]

So, why is it that we don't like this guy???

Did score like 100 TD's at Arkansas?

I think some look at Felix Jones as a backup type back. I have a feeling all of these backs in the draft would have been backups to DMAC had they been on the same team with him.

 

[AbeBeta]

I think some look at Felix Jones as a backup type back. I have a feeling all of these backs in the draft would have been backups to DMAC had they been on the same team with him.

sure.

but could you legitimately see Jones getting 20 carries a game?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Other than Ray Rice, you mean, right?

I didn't even bother watching him. :

 

[CATCH17]

sure.

but could you legitimately see Jones getting 20 carries a game?

Sure why not?

 

[Teague31]

that is sec talent he is blowing past... pretty impressive.

 

[AbeBeta]

Sure why not?

His game high in college is 17 carries

Wanna change your answer?

 

[CATCH17]

His game high in college is 17 carries

Wanna change your answer?

Like another poster in this thread mentioned if Stewart or Mendenhall are running behind DMAC their career high is 17 also.

There is no doubt he could have done it at the College level if need be.

So can he do it at the NFL level? Well you can throw that question on any of these guys.

 

[superpunk]

I'm waiting to be amazed...

It was alright. If I'm gonna spend a first rounder on a RB, I want to be wowed by one aspect of his game. Last year, I was stunned by what Peterson could do in the open field, and his power. I was pretty stoked about how physical Lynch was when he ran.

With Jones...there's just nothing. It's not like he's even toasting people in those clips. A guy like McFadden eliminates angles with his speed. Jones, just looks like he has decent lateral agility and good patience. I think we can find that from guys like Rice and Choice in the second, without handing out a first round pick for Jones.

Just meh....yknow.

 

[AbeBeta]

Like another poster in this thread mentioned if Stewart or Mendenhall are running behind DMAC their career high is 17 also.

Interesting perspective -- however, there were 3 other backs on the roster on the 'Backs -- and they ended up with 132 carries.

Fact is that the Razorbacks run a ton and Jones only got half the carries behind McFadden

Again, I think he's a good back but he wouldn't have been a workhorse on any team

 

[dallasfaniac]

I'm waiting to be amazed...

It was alright. If I'm gonna spend a first rounder on a RB, I want to be wowed by one aspect of his game. Last year, I was stunned by what Peterson could do in the open field, and his power. I was pretty stoked about how physical Lynch was when he ran.

With Jones...there's just nothing. It's not like he's even toasting people in those clips. A guy like McFadden eliminates angles with his speed. Jones, just looks like he has decent lateral agility and good patience. I think we can find that from guys like Rice and Choice in the second, without handing out a first round pick for Jones.

Just meh....yknow.

Yeah, that's the feeling I got too and same conclusion about a second rounder. Although, for the record in my mock we take Felix Jones. I just think he will be a reach.

 

[Eskimo]

He doesn't have great speed as many alluded to and I think the Combine has his speed right as a mid 4.4 guy. I don't see him really having big homerun potential in the NFL and I don't see him turning the corner or outrunning angles ala Charles, McFadden and Johnson.

I did like his ability as a receiver - very smooth. Vision and shiftiness are not bad but hard to assess in a highlight reel.

I would be disappointed with him in the first as I believe there are better alternatives.

 

[tomson75]

I'm waiting to be amazed...

It was alright. If I'm gonna spend a first rounder on a RB, I want to be wowed by one aspect of his game. Last year, I was stunned by what Peterson could do in the open field, and his power. I was pretty stoked about how physical Lynch was when he ran.

With Jones...there's just nothing. It's not like he's even toasting people in those clips. A guy like McFadden eliminates angles with his speed. Jones, just looks like he has decent lateral agility and good patience. I think we can find that from guys like Rice and Choice in the second, without handing out a first round pick for Jones.

Just meh....yknow.

Co-signed.

I'm guessing that just about any of the top 6-7 backs in this draft may be upgrades to the position, but taking a RB in the first should provide a team with a capable starter. I don't see that with Jones. I will be stoked on a Austin/Jones tandem at KR, though.

RB should be answered in the second round IMO.

...and did I mention that he was run down from behind more than once in those clips.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Jones is a stretch runner. He is pretty impressive when catching the ball but honestly guys, I don't see it. Nothing up the middle at all. No ability to reverse field or change direction. He runs hard but he does not stop on a dime. He's a little sloppy on his plant and redirect. I think it's because he runs with too high a pad level. I'll tell you something else, he carries the ball way too far away from his body. He's going to get stripped in the NFL. There are some nice things about him but he's exactly what I remember seeing. He is not going to get that corner in the NFL. He also takes shots. There is no way this kid will be able to carry the ball 20-25 times a game in the NFL for any length of time. I don't care what the scouts say, there is no way.

To me, this is a better runner.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5fq8TzJnM3o

Better lean, more ability to change direction. Acceleration is as good if not better. I don't know, you guys tell me. Maybe I'm just missing something.

 

[Vintage]

I don't care what the scouts say, there is no way.

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Well, when you put it that way....

 

[Eskimo]

Jones is a stretch runner. He is pretty impressive when catching the ball but honestly guys, I don't see it. Nothing up the middle at all. No ability to reverse field or change direction. He runs hard but he does not stop on a dime. He's a little sloppy on his plant and redirect. I think it's because he runs with too high a pad level. I'll tell you something else, he carries the ball way too far away from his body. He's going to get stripped in the NFL. There are some nice things about him but he's exactly what I remember seeing. He is not going to get that corner in the NFL. He also takes shots. There is no way this kid will be able to carry the ball 20-25 times a game in the NFL for any length of time. I don't care what the scouts say, there is no way.

To me, this is a better runner.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5fq8TzJnM3o

Better lean, more ability to change direction. Acceleration is as good if not better. I don't know, you guys tell me. Maybe I'm just missing something.

I agree - Charles is as good a receiver, much better speed, and shows better ability to run inside with more desire and determination. I think he needs to add another 10-15 pounds which he should do once he is totally dedicated to pro football and no longer running track.

Moreover, it looks like Charles can be had with #28 or possibly in a trade into the upper part of the 2nd round allowing us to pick up another premium pick in the process.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

To me, this is a better runner.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5fq8TzJnM3o

Better lean, more ability to change direction. Acceleration is as good if not better. I don't know, you guys tell me. Maybe I'm just missing something.

Half that reel was against Rice. :

No, I think Charles has a lot of potential, too. He has to stop fumbling, though.

(I don't think he cuts better than Felix, though... Not that that's all-important.)

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if we got Charles. Norm was hinting that was pretty likely if we trade down a tad.

 

[cobra]

I'm pretty amazed that Priest Holmes was able to be a workhorse in the Pros seeing as he never had to do so in college and all. And if you don't do it in college, then you clearly can't do it in the pros....


The guy is 5'10", 207 pounds before entering an NFL conditioning program. Incidentally, Julius Jones is 5'10, 208 lbs. Willie Parker is 5'10, 209 lbs. Brian Westbrook is 5'10, 203 lbs. I could go on and on. Yet those guys all seem to have enough size to be every down backs. But Felix can't?

I swear some of y'all seem like you are looking for reasons to downgrade the guy.

He's the 4th RB in my book, but he is a 1st round talent.

Interesting comparison with a guy who went 12th last year in the draft.

Marshawn Lynch
5'10" 215 lbs; 4.46 40; 7.09 3cone; 4.58 20ydshuttle; 10'5" broad; 20 225 reps
Last season: 223 carries, 1,356 yards, 6.1 avg, 11 TDs.
Felix Jones
5'10" 207 lbs; 4.44 40; 6.90 3cone; 4.19 20ydshuttle; 10'4" broad; 13 225 reps
Last season: 134 carries, 1,162 yards, 8.7 avg, 11 TDs

So Lynch was 8 lbs heavier, slower, less ypc, not signifcantly more yards, same TDs on more carries, and 9 reps stronger. (And if you went with total yards, Jones had more his last college season and 4 return TDs on his career)

But Jones can't be an every down back and isn't worth a 1st...

 

[AbeBeta]

I'm pretty amazed that Priest Holmes was able to be a workhorse in the Pros seeing as he never had to do so in college and all. And if you don't do it in college, then you clearly can't do it in the pros....

Yes, one guy who did it makes it clear that every guy who didn't carry the load in college can convert to the pros.

Obviously everyone here is talking about patterns -- and usually guys who are outside runners who never carried a college load aren't going to be guys who can step up and be a 20 carry a game back -- even for just a handful of games.

So pretty much your argument is "it isn't impossible."