fellas... it's gonna be Turner...

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Hunter71;1334629 said:
Yes...

As an OC...

Look at his record with his 2 previous HC jobs...

look at where those two jobs were

NFL job hell #1 and NFL job hell #2

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dbair1967;1334615 said:
Jimmy likes Norv and thinks he'd be a great hire

that a better case of enough said for me

David

Jimmy liked Parcells, too.
 

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Idgit;1334669 said:
Jimmy liked Parcells, too.

so did 99.9% of the people on here when we hired him

Parcells was a good hire and a good organizational decision by Jones...it just didnt work out w/l wise

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dbair1967;1334677 said:
so did 99.9% of the people on here when we hired him

Parcells was a good hire and a good organizational decision by Jones...it just didnt work out w/l wise

David

Actually, this season, most of the year, Johnson was riding in the Cowboys bandwagon because of the job Parcells had done. I wasn't talking about four years ago. But maybe Jimmy just didn't share your take on the team's mediocrity.

My point was more that you're coming down on both sides of the fence on Jimmy's HC validation test, using it to support a Silly Option on the one hand and ignoring it when it validates a HoF coach who's restored a lot of talent and direction to a franchise that desperately needed it on the other.
 

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Idgit;1334767 said:
Actually, this season, most of the year, Johnson was riding in the Cowboys bandwagon because of the job Parcells had done. I wasn't talking about four years ago. But maybe Jimmy just didn't share your take on the team's mediocrity.

My point was more that you're coming down on both sides of the fence on Jimmy's HC validation test, using it to support a Silly Option on the one hand and ignoring it when it validates a HoF coach who's restored a lot of talent and direction to a franchise that desperately needed it on the other.

I dont ever remember hearing Jimmy say at any time this yr that he thought we were a well coached team, or that we were over achieving or getting the most out of players

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dbair1967;1334789 said:
I dont ever remember hearing Jimmy say at any time this yr that he thought we were a well coached team, or that we were over achieving or getting the most out of players

David

It's probably b/c you've blanked out everything that happened this season prior to the final month. And then blanked out everything else that's happened since 1993.

Here's one example:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6211340

Money quote:

Let me tell you, teams with character and ones with intelligent players are going to remain motivated over the long haul. These teams do get better. And the ones who don't have character and don't have intelligence, well, those teams tend to implode and start going downhill. I think those are the factors that you look for in your favorite teams right now.

You look at the Dallas Cowboys, one of my old teams. They have remained healthy. They are well-coached, they have character and they are getting better.


- Jimmy Johnson​
 

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DipChit;1334445 said:
You darn sure would have to bring in a hot shot DC in that scenario.. but who? Doesnt seem to me that any of them happen to be looking for work right now except as HC's.

Trying to get away with Bowles or someone like him would be asking for it. How many teams get away with such unproven OC's/DC's?

If any it's because they were well oiled machines in the first place and they just had to replace the guy who got his unit to that level with someone else cause the guy moved on to bigger things.
So, then, it's Phillips or Rivera, right? I unenthusiastically support Phillips at this stage at least.
 
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It makes better sense to me to hire Rivera as HC, and bring Norv in as OC. Man, that would be cool. I always loved Turner's timing passing game. Aikman had it down so well with his receivers that it was almost impossible to stop it. As soon as Irvin or Harper would get to their spot, the ball was there. I believe that kind of offense would really help with blitzes & our average OL pass protection. If we can free Romo up to do his thing, he's shown that he can be the best in the business.
 

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I guess now Jerry is left to take Snyder and Davis' castoffs. What's next Art Shell or Steve Spurrier.
 
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