Few Chiefs tidbits

[Kevinicus]

If you really think that, then we must be watching different teams.

I'm sure you'll eat those words before they leave AT&T Stadium.

I do really think that. It's one of the biggest criticisms their fans have had of the team. The numbers indicate this is true as well as they are near the bottom in percent of pass plays that they generate pressure.

 

[TWOK11]

They should be down on their defense.

They are giving up a lot of yardage.

And why is that? Well Bob Sutton has gone super conservative and is playing man coverage behind a very straight forward 3 or 4 man rush. Sometimes two man rush and flooding the field with DBs.

Very little to no blitzing.

Sound familiar?

Not really, we don't play much straight man and have rushed two all of three times the last two years. And we're #6 in the league in blitz percentage this year.

 

[Bullflop]

I do really think that. It's one of the biggest criticisms their fans have had of the team. The numbers indicate this is true as well as they are near the bottom in percent of pass plays that they generate pressure.

The truth is that they don't really need blitzing to exert outstanding pressure. Their defense is outstanding in every way, including their pass rush. I've seen it every time I've watched them this year. Don't take my word for it -- just watch them Sunday and don't get too upset if I'm right.

 

[Alexander]

Not really, we don't play much straight man and have rushed two all of three times the last two years. And we're #6 in the league in blitz percentage this year.

That rush 3 and man behind it is what we did quite a bit last year.

 

[Kevinicus]

The truth is that they don't really need blitzing to exert outstanding pressure. Their defense is outstanding in every way including their pass rush. I've seen it every time I've watched them this year. Don't take my word for it -- just watch them Sunday and be surprised.

You must be talking about a different team. Who said blitzing? They don't generate pressure as often as most teams. This is a fact. The numbers show this.

Their defense is also one of the worst in the league. I live in KC, I watch them every week, every year. You must be confusing their defense from a previous year with this years version. This year, they are bad.

You are seriously suggesting that their run D is outstanding as well? They just gave up 177 yards and nearly 6 ypc to the Broncos. They give up around 5 ypc on the season. That's not bad, it's horrendous.

 

[robbieruff]

Funny thing is, the Chief's fans are saying the same thing on their forum about us. They think they need to score 35+ to have a chance to win. They think we are going to run for 300+ yards even without Zeke. They also think Dak,Dez, and Witten is going to abuse their defense.

gotta love fans...we're always so "Chicken Little" when it comes to our own teams! lol...

 

[Alexander]

The truth is that they don't really need blitzing to exert outstanding pressure. Their defense is outstanding in every way, including their pass rush. I've seen it every time I've watched them this year. Don't take my word for it -- just watch them Sunday and don't get too upset if I'm right.

Are you talking about the Chiefs defense before last year and this year?

Thing is, they are not blitzing. They are playing a shell game with coverages and looks.

Did you watch the Raiders game this year? They allowed a pretty ineffective offense to rank up yards because they could not pressure Carr.

 

[School]

Smith is playing exceptionally well.

The idea that he puts a "lid" on their offensive is just patently false.

He functions well within their scheme and plays within the confines of it.

This really is a hilarious statement. Especially coming from a fan of a team whose QB is doing the exact same thing.

Smith does put a lid on the offense. He's not without his positives, like rarely turning the ball over, but he is cautious to a fault, and it limits the offense. He prioritizes taking care of the ball over taking advantage of opportunities. Yes, he'll have stretches where he does take some chances, but he inevitably reverts back to the mean.

He threw just under a quarter of his passes behind the line of scrimmage last year, the highest proportion in the league, and no qb had a higher percentage of their yardage come from screen passes. The offense has been powered by a strong running game and, thanks to Reid's scheming, YAC. Well over half of Smith's yards came after the catch, again, the highest in the league. This is because he cannot operate as a normal qb.

You can say he works within the confines of the offense, but he is the reason the offense is confined.

This isn't even a contrarian viewpoint. Why do you think the chiefs traded into the top 10 to select a gunslinging qb that is the antithesis of Smith?

 

[Bullflop]

I'd love to believe what you say but until they show that they're that bad come Sunday, I'm not biting. Congrats in advance if they fail.

 

[Bullflop]

Are you talking about the Chiefs defense before last year and this year?

Thing is, they are not blitzing. They are playing a shell game with coverages and looks.

Did you watch the Raiders game this year? They allowed a pretty ineffective offense to rank up yards because they could not pressure Carr.

Sorry, I missed that one but hope what I'm seeing from Kevin's and your thoughts are true. I'll need proof on Sunday to believe it though. I've watched about three or four of their games this year and their pass rush looked great. I surely must have seen the wrong ones if I'm mistaken.

 

[AmishCowboy]

Isn't K.C. one of the worst Run defenses in the NFL?

 

[Aven8]

I just want to know who the hell is covering Hill??

 

[Alexander]

Smith does put a lid on the offense. He's not without his positives, like rarely turning the ball over, but he is cautious to a fault, and it limits the offense. He prioritizes taking care of the ball over taking advantage of opportunities. Yes, he'll have stretches where he does take some chances, but he inevitably reverts back to the mean.

Wait, so a QB should throw caution to the wind and not try to force opportunities that are not there and be a "gun-slinger"? He does what he should do in this offense, which is make the right read and get the pass accurately to the right player, who is then making the yardage after the play. That is the "confines" of this offense. It is what the West Coast concept is all about. Schemed passes designed to get RAC.

He threw just under a quarter of his passes behind the line of scrimmage last year,

Again, amusing to see a fan of the Cowboys saying this when Dak Prescott who operates in a very similar fashion.

Does Prescott put a "lid" on the Cowboys offense?

 

[Alexander]

I just want to know who the hell is covering Hill??

Most of the league has been asking themselves that all season.

I wish I had an answer for you that did not promote intense fear and a feeling of imminent and explosive diarrhea.

 

[Maverick84]

I know nothing about the Chiefs other than the fact that they have Smith and Hunt...

what are their strengths and weaknesses?

 

[Kevinicus]

Smith does put a lid on the offense. He's not without his positives, like rarely turning the ball over, but he is cautious to a fault, and it limits the offense. He prioritizes taking care of the ball over taking advantage of opportunities. Yes, he'll have stretches where he does take some chances, but he inevitably reverts back to the mean.

He threw just under a quarter of his passes behind the line of scrimmage last year, the highest proportion in the league, and no qb had a higher percentage of their yardage come from screen passes. The offense has been powered by a strong running game and, thanks to Reid's scheming, YAC. Well over half of Smith's yards came after the catch, again, the highest in the league. This is because he cannot operate as a normal qb.

You can say he works within the confines of the offense, but he is the reason the offense is confined.

This isn't even a contrarian viewpoint. Why do you think the chiefs traded into the top 10 to select a gunslinging qb that is the antithesis of Smith?

You are not describing Smith this year.

 

[Kevinicus]

Isn't K.C. one of the worst Run defenses in the NFL?

Yes.

 

[Bullflop]

You must be talking about a different team. Who said blitzing? They don't generate pressure as often as most teams. This is a fact. The numbers show this.

Their defense is also one of the worst in the league. I live in KC, I watch them every week, every year. You must be confusing their defense from a previous year with this years version. This year, they are bad.

You are seriously suggesting that their run D is outstanding as well? They just gave up 177 yards and nearly 6 ypc to the Broncos. They give up around 5 ypc on the season. That's not bad, it's horrendous.

Every game I watched this year, both their pass rush and run defense were outstanding. I'll be delighted to see what you're saying if true. You've watched every game and I haven't, so you must have seen something that I haven't as yet. Between now and Sunday, I'll be hoping you're 100% correct. In the meantime, thank you kindly for the update, although I'm yet to be fully convinced that KC's "D" is as bad as you say.

 

[Tabascocat]

I know nothing about the Chiefs other than the fact that they have Smith and Hunt...

what are their strengths and weaknesses?

Very bad defense, very good offense. That is about all you need to know. I guess you can say we match up pretty evenly

They do outgun us in special teams though, might turn out to be the difference.

 

[School]

Wait, so a QB should throw caution to the wind and not try to force opportunities that are not there and be a "gun-slinger"? He does what he should do in this offense, which is make the right read and get the pass accurately to the right player, who is then making the yardage after the play. That is the "confines" of this offense. It is what the West Coast concept is all about. Schemed passes designed to get RAC.

Again, amusing to see a fan of the Cowboys saying this when Dak Prescott who operates in a very similar fashion.

Does Prescott put a "lid" on the Cowboys offense?

A qb should not throw caution to the wind, nor should he let caution prevent him from taking advantage of opportunities the defense gives him. It's almost like there's a middle ground.

Just because he completes a checkdown does not mean he made the right read. The right read may have been to throw it to a receiver coming open downfield, but he decided to go with the safer play. That ultimately limits the offense.

As for Dak, I'm not sure why you brought him in to this. He does not operate in a similar fashion. Only 15% of his passes were thrown to behind the line of scrimmage, 23rd highest in the league.