Fight The Power... Mike Nolan to wear suits at home games only

[AbeBeta]

Nolan can swing this however he wants, but the dude is full of himself. Are the suits nice...I guess, but for this to be an issue that even draws any attention at all is ridiculous. Throw some khaki's on with a team golf shirt...you are good.

Good? For a BBQ maybe.

You are on national TV representing your franchise. Looking like a grown up is important.

 

[iceberg]

Good? For a BBQ maybe.

You are on national TV representing your franchise. Looking like a grown up is important.

it's not gonna make you any more one than you already are...

wear what you like and people quit being so stereotypical in the "who's who" crap.

 

[AbeBeta]

it's not gonna make you any more one than you already are...

wear what you like and people quit being so stereotypical in the "who's who" crap.

But by the same token people who believe that "clothes don't matter" need to wake up to reality. Clothes make a huge difference in how others perceive you. That's a fact. Like it or not. Cold hard fact.

 

[iceberg]

But by the same token people who believe that "clothes don't matter" need to wake up to reality. Clothes make a huge difference in how others perceive you. That's a fact. Like it or not. Cold hard fact.

did i SAY i didn't realize that?

i fully realize there's an image that goes with my size, hair, dress...i'm no eagles fan, i can think for myself.

what i said was how many times can someone get burned thinking that the stereotype *is* true and base their own actions on them vs. putting them down for a bit and learning firsthand about things.

charles manson in a suit is still charles manson.

 

[AbeBeta]

did i SAY i didn't realize that?

i fully realize there's an image that goes with my size, hair, dress...i'm no eagles fan, i can think for myself.

what i said was how many times can someone get burned thinking that the stereotype *is* true and base their own actions on them vs. putting them down for a bit and learning firsthand about things.

charles manson in a suit is still charles manson.

I guess we aren't disagreeing so much here.

It is important to not get sucked into the stereotype -- but it is also important for folks to recognize what sort of situation they are going into and dress accordingly. If I see someone on the street and they are wear sweats and a t-shirt I don't think anything of it. If I see that same person at a formal wedding and they are dressed the same way then I am going to think poorly of them. Why? Because certain situations call for certain attire. If a person cannot recognize that and get over their stupid "clothes don't matter" crap, then I will think poorly of them. And it will be warranted.

 

[iceberg]

I guess we aren't disagreeing so much here.

It is important to not get sucked into the stereotype -- but it is also important for folks to recognize what sort of situation they are going into and dress accordingly. If I see someone on the street and they are wear sweats and a t-shirt I don't think anything of it. If I see that same person at a formal wedding and they are dressed the same way then I am going to think poorly of them. Why? Because certain situations call for certain attire. If a person cannot recognize that and get over their stupid "clothes don't matter" crap, then I will think poorly of them. And it will be warranted.

those may be the same who feel grammar doesn't matter as well. when i read posts that make me think i'm looking at my cell phone, i quit reading. stereotypical? sure. guilty as i was charging above.

people do it. sometimes the *other* person snaps out of it and you get good convo going and that's how you get past those stereotypes.

if i'm in a board room wearing jeans and my "black death malt liquor" shirt i know full well that i've got a challenge on my hands to get past the guy next to me wearing an armani. you *do* handicap yourself in this situation which is why yes, if that were to come about i'd likely have to break out my 1 suit, if i can find it.

but what do i do w/my hair????

 

[AbeBeta]

those may be the same who feel grammar doesn't matter as well. when i read posts that make me think i'm looking at my cell phone, i quit reading. stereotypical? sure. guilty as i was charging above.

people do it. sometimes the *other* person snaps out of it and you get good convo going and that's how you get past those stereotypes.

if i'm in a board room wearing jeans and my "black death malt liquor" shirt i know full well that i've got a challenge on my hands to get past the guy next to me wearing an armani. you *do* handicap yourself in this situation which is why yes, if that were to come about i'd likely have to break out my 1 suit, if i can find it.

but what do i do w/my hair????

Nothing classier than pigtails.

 

[carphalen5150]

Good? For a BBQ maybe.

You are on national TV representing your franchise. Looking like a grown up is important.

So then everyone who does not wear a suit is underdressed? I find it funny that you feel people must dress as a "grown up". Why? Look around the league...the non-grown up outfit I described is worn by most coaches in the league, so not following how it is inapproppriate attire. Also, since you were so adament about him representing the franchise, doesn't it make sense for him to wear clothing...coaching attire...that fans may want to purchase at the team store. The average joe is not going to want to buy the Nolan Blazer, but he wears a sharp looking t-shirt, golf shirt, jacket, hat, etc, and it is not only representing the franchise, but providing advertisement for the teams merchandise.

 

[AbeBeta]

So then everyone who does not wear a suit is underdressed? I find it funny that you feel people must dress as a "grown up". Why? Look around the league...the non-grown up outfit I described is worn by most coaches in the league, so not following how it is inapproppriate attire. Also, since you were so adament about him representing the franchise, doesn't it make sense for him to wear clothing...coaching attire...that fans may want to purchase at the team store. The average joe is not going to want to buy the Nolan Blazer, but he wears a sharp looking t-shirt, golf shirt, jacket, hat, etc, and it is not only representing the franchise, but providing advertisement for the teams merchandise.

Actually, the "non grown up" outfit is what was mandated by the league's agreement with Reebok. Nolan is challenging that. Haven't you been paying atttention?

Why would Nolan wearing team attire make any difference at all. Fans aren't fans of the coach. Fans buy jerseys, hats etc. The coach isn't great for marketing b/c he isn't who fans are rooting for. The team has incredible advertising for the merchandise already. Much of it is on the backs of the players. Players wear hats on the sideline.

Represent the team with class. This isn't NASCAR.

 

[iceberg]

Nothing classier than pigtails.

only for my little schoolgirl look.

 

[iceberg]

So then everyone who does not wear a suit is underdressed? I find it funny that you feel people must dress as a "grown up". Why? Look around the league...the non-grown up outfit I described is worn by most coaches in the league, so not following how it is inapproppriate attire. Also, since you were so adament about him representing the franchise, doesn't it make sense for him to wear clothing...coaching attire...that fans may want to purchase at the team store. The average joe is not going to want to buy the Nolan Blazer, but he wears a sharp looking t-shirt, golf shirt, jacket, hat, etc, and it is not only representing the franchise, but providing advertisement for the teams merchandise.

again, the coach should be able to wear what he wants.

then again, there is a "uniform" for the players, why *not* the coaches?

 

[carphalen5150]

Actually, the "non grown up" outfit is what was mandated by the league's agreement with Reebok. Nolan is challenging that. Haven't you been paying atttention?

Why would Nolan wearing team attire make any difference at all. Fans aren't fans of the coach. Fans buy jerseys, hats etc. The coach isn't great for marketing b/c he isn't who fans are rooting for. The team has incredible advertising for the merchandise already. Much of it is on the backs of the players. Players wear hats on the sideline.

Represent the team with class. This isn't NASCAR.

I see...no one watches the coaches on the sidelines. It is great advertising for the team. I'm a middle class guy and if I saw the coach or an assistant wearing a sharp looking shirt I liked I would buy it.

 

[AbeBeta]

I see...no one watches the coaches on the sidelines. It is great advertising for the team. I'm a middle class guy and if I saw the coach or an assistant wearing a sharp looking shirt I liked I would buy it.

Oh I see. Because you would buy a shirt that makes it marketing.

Let me ask this. Would most of those coaches even be a decent advertisement for casual wear? Would you really by that Eagles golf shirt you've been after because Andy Reid looked so good in it?

 

[DallasEast]

I really don't give a crap if a coach wears a suit or not, but anyone who would rather wear a suit outdoors to coach a game (and remember if it is cold, throw on the topcoat and scarf to stay warm) than looser fitting fan gear is ********.

One could say that it's also ******** to knowingly lie. If you didn't 'give a crap', you won't have commented.

First, it was impractical for a coach to wear a suit during games. The act of wearing a suit had been practiced for years, so it was, in fact, practical.

Secondly, coaching aids and accessories 'proved' that it is 'impractical' for a coach to wear a suit on the sidelines. While a coach may feel cumbersome wearing a suit and (for example) carrying a headseat, it is far from impossible to do both at the same time--proving that it is indeed practical.

Finally, it is now '********' for a coach to wear a suit on the sidelines--which infers that there have been some legendary, hall of fame, dumbarse NFL coaches down through the years. A coach wearing a freaking kimono is doing something impractical and ********. A coach wearing a suit is someone simply making a gameday attire decision.



'********'.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

If you hate it that much, quit; someone with your qualifications would have no trouble finding a top-flight job in either the food service or housekeeping industries.

If I did I guess I would end up being your supervisor wouldn't I?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

As a fan I would like a coach who showed respect for the game by not wearing what he woke up in on the field.

Seems to me he is respecting the game by winning and being the best he can be at it.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

One could say that it's also ******** to knowingly lie. If you didn't 'give a crap', you won't have commented.

First, it was impractical for a coach to wear a suit during games. The act of wearing a suit had been practiced for years, so it was, in fact, practical.

Secondly, coaching aids and accessories 'proved' that it is 'impractical' for a coach to wear a suit on the sidelines. While a coach may feel cumbersome wearing a suit and (for example) carrying a headseat, it is far from impossible to do both at the same time--proving that it is indeed practical.

Finally, it is now '********' for a coach to wear a suit on the sidelines--which infers that there have been some legendary, hall of fame, dumbarse NFL coaches down through the years. A coach wearing a freaking kimono is doing something impractical and ********. A coach wearing a suit is someone simply making a gameday attire decision.



'********'.

Circular arguments are not satisfying in rebuttal nor is the standard "rolling eyes" emoticon. It has been before so therefore it is practical is what you are saying.

We are talking about winning a football game people, not a million dollar negotiation or sales pitch. What the coach wears in terms "dressing for success" or "showing class" is about as relevant as what you wear watching the game.

 

[AbeBeta]

Seems to me he is respecting the game by winning and being the best he can be at it.

So every coach by default is then respecting the game?

 

[DallasEast]

Circular arguments are not satisfying in rebuttal nor is the standard "rolling eyes" emoticon. It has been before so therefore it is practical is what you are saying.

We are talking about winning a football game people, not a million dollar negotiation or sales pitch. What the coach wears in terms "dressing for success" or "showing class" is about as relevant as what you wear watching the game.

If a coach's choice of clothing is so irrelevant, why the hell do people like yourself have such a big problem with it?

 

[superpunk]

Oh I see. Because you would buy a shirt that makes it marketing.

Let me ask this. Would most of those coaches even be a decent advertisement for casual wear? Would you really by that Eagles golf shirt you've been after because Andy Reid looked so good in it?

There's more than one way to skin a cat.

It's not so much that Reid's some male-model.

But if he wears that shirt, at least you've been exposed to it. At least now, you know it exists. That's just as effective as "Be like Mike" campaigns.