Final Escobar Numbers? 30 catches for 333 yards, 8 TD

[RoboQB]

I call everyone brother, brother. He was strong, sir. He stood his ground. Watch the clip. Jones is no joke. Zeke had a clean hole, sir.

So just to be clear. You're saying that Gavin Escobar is strong.
To prove your point, you put up a block that shows him engaged
in a block and being pushed back with little resistance.

Got it. That may look strong to a little fella but the fact that Zeke
scored on the play doesn't make the glory go to the guy who tried
real hard on the play and didn't screw it up.

 

[Trouty]

So just to be clear. You're saying that Gavin Escobar is strong.
To prove your point, you put up a block that shows him engaged
in a block and being pushed back with little resistance.

Got it. That may look strong to a little fella but the fact that Zeke
scored on the play doesn't make the glory go to the guy who tried
real hard on the play and didn't screw it up.

Little fella?

 

[RoboQB]

Little fella?

Brother. Little brother. Younger.

 

[Trouty]

Brother. Little brother. Younger.

I wouldn't call myself little. Which has nothing to do with this, regardless. You can try and billy bap your way through this all you'd like, sir.

My age is missing me in your argument. You think he's weak, he isn't in that clip. That is the crux of my argument, as well as the fact that we was grossly underused, imo.

To each their own. Peace.

 

[RoboQB]

I wouldn't call myself little. Which has nothing to do with this, regardless. You can try and billy bap your way through this all you'd like, sir.

My age is missing me in your argument. You think he's weak, he isn't in that clip. That is the crux of my arguement, as well as the fact that we was grossly underused, imo.

To each their own. Peace.

Right. You think being pushed backward is a sign of strength.
I said it wasn't. Strength would be to stand ground or push forward.
Not sure how that confused you. If you want to gush over the power of
Gavin Escobar, at least find a clip where he's not being pushed into the gap.

I fully understand the crux of your argument. You are simply wrong.
Someone needs to hit the gym.

 

[LittleLexodus]

I thought he had potential when given playing time. Sadly he hasn't seen a whole lot

 

[Trouty]

Right. You think being pushed backward is a sign of strength.
I said it wasn't. Strength would be to stand ground or push forward.
Not sure how that confused you. If you want to gush over the power of
Gavin Escobar, at least find a clip where he's not being pushed into the gap.

I fully understand the crux of your argument. You are simply wrong.
Someone needs to hit the gym.

I think using his strength to not allow Jones to collapse the gap shows enough strength in that play. Yes. Zeke had a clean hole. He showed enough strength to get the job done. Or did he fail?

 

[RoboQB]

I think using his strength to not allow Jones to collapse the gap shows enough strength in that play. Yes. Zeke had a clean hole. He showed enough strength to get the job done. Or did he fail?

Oh now it's "enough strength". Yes, of course. The play was a success. Zeke hit the hole hard.
No tip toe there.

"The talented but not strong Escobar was able to muster enough strength to prevent Jones from getting to Elliott."
How's that? We'll get the late John Facenda to do the voice over on your selected video clip.

 

[Trouty]

Oh now it's "enough strength". Yes, of course. The play was a success. Zeke hit the hole hard.
No tip toe there.

"The talented but not strong Escobar was able to muster enough strength to prevent Jones from getting to Elliott."
How's that? We'll get the late John Facenda to do the voice over on your selected video clip.

Yes, enough strength. We can get Bob Uecker to do it, I don't care. Job was done, Esco held the edge.

 

[LatinMind]

Gavin Escobar's 4 year career as a Dallas Cowboys is almost certainly over.

He averaged 8 catches, 83 yards and 2 TDs per season during his tenure with Dallas.

I have this feeling he is going to go somewhere next year, start, and be a 55 reception, 700 yard guy. My only regret is that we never <really> got to see what he could do.

Anybody care to offer any guesses on where his career might go from here?

I think he will be a patriot next yr and be turn heads. Cowboys need to stop drafting TEs who dont fit their type

 

[Trouty]

I think he will be a patriot next yr and be turn heads. Cowboys need to stop drafting TEs who dont fit their type

I was thinking the same, Latin. Belichick will use the hell out of him in the 2 TE set. Whether it's with Gronk or Bennett.

 

[RoboQB]

I think he will be a patriot next yr and be turn heads. Cowboys need to stop drafting TEs who dont fit their type

He'll go to Cleveland and be cut a month later.

Then get picked up by Atlanta in October and turn into the next Tony Gonzalez.

 

[Hoofbite]

He's certainly strong here. Dude is legit. We didn't use him. It's that simple.

Escobar isn't strong. If he could have consistently blocked, he would have had a whole lot more playing time. That was his limiting factor.

 

[Hoofbite]

Shows how stupid we were for drafting TEs three times in the 2nd round. We either have no idea how to develop a TE or we had no intention of playing them in the first place. It's like we could care less about 2nd round picks. We either trade them away or waste them on TEs. There's a lot of talent in the 2nd round, and I don't mean depth, I mean starters and stars.

He'll undoubtedly produce more for his next team, just as Fasano and Bennett have done.

 

[The Realist]

I hope he goes elsewhere and goes off to make our front office and coaches look stupid. Even UDFA Scott Chandler had a great career after leaving Dallas.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Shows how stupid we were for drafting TEs three times in the 2nd round. We either have no idea how to develop a TE or we had no intention of playing them in the first place. It's like we could care less about 2nd round picks. We either trade them away or waste them on TEs. There's a lot of talent in the 2nd round, and I don't mean depth, I mean starters and stars.

Not really. You make it seem like it was every year they were doing that when in fact it was 4 years after Bennett that Escobar was drafted.

Garrett clearly likes the 21 and 31 sets. The issue with Escobar was his blocking was at best average and at worst just plain bad when we want guys that are plus blockers; he got strong but not by enough. The issue with Bennett was a defiance to authority, a lack of focus and a dislike to sharing with others. Fasano was 10 years and 2 coaching staffs ago.

We still need TEs. We need 3 of them that can black really for the offense. They are useful on ST and are active on gamedays.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Right. You think being pushed backward is a sign of strength.
I said it wasn't. Strength would be to stand ground or push forward.
Not sure how that confused you. If you want to gush over the power of
Gavin Escobar, at least find a clip where he's not being pushed into the gap.

I fully understand the crux of your argument. You are simply wrong.
Someone needs to hit the gym.

I just don't think you understand the nature of a reach block and leverage particularly for a guy as high cut as he is. It's not like he was heads up and getting driven back. The OLB was shaded inside his shoulder.

 

[RoboQB]

I just don't think you understand the nature of a reach block and leverage particularly for a guy as high cut as he is. It's not like he was heads up and getting driven back. The OLB was shaded inside his shoulder.

Someone said he was strong. He's not.
I applaud Escobar's effort but I wouldn't use that video as an example of his strength.
Predictably, that person wanted to argue his point.

I fully understand the nature of a reach block. I used to do it very well in another life.

 

[IrishAnto]

Gavin Escobar's 4 year career as a Dallas Cowboys is almost certainly over.

He averaged 8 catches, 83 yards and 2 TDs per season during his tenure with Dallas.

I have this feeling he is going to go somewhere next year, start, and be a 55 reception, 700 yard guy. My only regret is that we never <really> got to see what he could do.

Anybody care to offer any guesses on where his career might go from here?

Yep!
If Anthony Fasano and Martellus Bennett are anything to go by then I would expect Escobar to go on and have a decent career with another team.

Three 2nd round picks wasted on TEs we couldn't use and people wonder why we have holes to fill on the roster.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Someone said he was strong. He's not.
I applaud Escobar's effort but I wouldn't use that video as an example of his strength.
Predictably, that person wanted to argue his point.

I fully understand the nature of a reach block. I used to do it very well in another life.

You can claim whatever you like you still demonstrate no competency with the way you talk about the play in question. You demonstrate no understanding of the nature of leverage, core strength, and reach blocks for a 6'6" high cut man.

He had no leverage as the OLB got a good jump off the ball after lining up on Escobar's inside shoulder. He still held on to create a gap for Zeke to run through. That takes quite a bit of core strength to not get twisted/accordioned as well as upper body strength to hold on. If Escobar was not strong he would have been shed.

Further the OLB wasn't trying to drive Escobar back. He was trying to squeeze the gap, a lateral move in which he had the advantageous position, and failed.