Final Escobar Numbers? 30 catches for 333 yards, 8 TD

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Shows how stupid we were for drafting TEs three times in the 2nd round. We either have no idea how to develop a TE or we had no intention of playing them in the first place. It's like we could care less about 2nd round picks. We either trade them away or waste them on TEs or on potheads or on injured players. There's a lot of talent in the 2nd round, and I don't mean depth, I mean starters and stars.

FTFY. :mad:
 

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I agree with views on both sides, but if we can sign him to a cap friendly contract, I say keep him. With Hannah and Swaim both back, he won't be asked to block as much and we can use him as a big target in certain situations. He knows the offense and won't require a learning curve. He belongs in the flex position and not as an in line blocker. At 6'6" we can use him and Irving as middle rushers for long fieldgoals where the trajectory of the ball should be much lower. Don't know if he has the stones for it, though.
He's going to want to move on
 

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Where we originally drafted Escobar should not affect how we view him going forward.

I admit, when our early 2nd round pick came up in 2013, many of us were pumped because there were so many good to great possible players (or ones who we thought might be) sitting there. Collins, Bell, Lacy, Hankins, Warford, Mathieu, etc were all Cowboyszone favorites for some. And several are now muli-year Pro Bowlers. So logically, some of us were not at all thrilled....to put it nicely.

But that's in the past and has nothing to due with the present decision.

They'll weigh his asking price (which will be low) vs his value going forward. The downside is limited and the upside could still be very good.

Guess we'll see.
 
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We're a run first two that values our 2nd TE to be a good, consistent blocker, and values our #1 TE to be an all-around TE. I haven't seen anything out of our offense that would even utilize his supposed skills. Plus I'm sure he wants a fresh start.
 

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Stupid?

Fasano has played 11 years. Bennett has played nine.

We picked quality players. Tons of second round picks taken those years are out of the league.

So sad to see board members with no perspective
It makes no sense to draft TEs in the second round when you have Witten,who has only missed 1 game in his career.
The Fasano pick was bad,the Bennett pick did not work out because Bennett is a mental midget and the Escobar bad too.
 

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Where we originally drafted Escobar should not affect how we view him going forward.

I admit, when our early 2nd round pick came up in 2013, many of us were pumped because there were so many good to great possible players (or ones who we thought might be) sitting there. Collins, Bell, Lacy, Hankins, Warford, Mathieu, etc were all Cowboyszone favorites for some. And several are now muli-year Pro Bowlers. So logically, some of us were not at all thrilled....to put it nicely.

But that's in the past and has nothing to due with the present decision.

They'll weigh his asking price (which will be low) vs his value going forward. The downside is limited and the upside could still be very good.

Guess we'll see.
:popcorn:
 

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It makes no sense to draft TEs in the second round when you have Witten,who has only missed 1 game in his career.
The Fasano pick was bad,the Bennett pick did not work out because Bennett is a mental midget and the Escobar bad too.

Actually it did make sense at the time. The average NFL career is pretty short.

Fasano was picked in 2016 - Witten was a big part of the O before that but not as much as he became. From 2007 on, Witten's targets dramatically increased, in part due to a change in coaching staff and philosophy. Witten became the guy who never left the field then - Fasano became dispensable as we saw him as being somewhat one dimensional and we moved him for a decent pick.

The Bennett pick did not work out because Witten continued to be that every single down guy. We took Bennett as Witten's eventual replacement. But Witten turned out to be remarkably durable.

Things didn't work out for these guys because Witten ended up being one of the best TE in the history of the league.
 

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As long as we don't draft a TE in the top 4-5 rounds, Coach. We have much bigger fish to fry, agreed! :)

Greg Jackson was DB coach for Michigan in 2015. If Butt is looking solid (hehe), we'll probably pick him.
 

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Research it. It was brought up during his rookie year.
Or you could just continue with the :rolleyes::oops::eek::cool::confused:.

Don't need to he is a friend of my buddies brother who went to school with him. I know all I need to know about Gavin.

:rolleyes:o_O:cool:;)
 

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But throwing 2nd round picks at a position "in case" of injury is a luxury teams in the salary cap era can't afford.

No team (or very few anyway) will even spend a 2nd round pick on a backup QB in case of injury and frankly if you were going to do it for any position QB would be it not TE.
Though some might think losing your QB is doom to begin with, and I'm sure TEs are much more likely to be injured than a QB. I think the TE is especially critical in our offense. I'd hate to see what might happen if Witten went down.
 

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Gavin Escobar's 4 year career as a Dallas Cowboys is almost certainly over.

He averaged 8 catches, 83 yards and 2 TDs per season during his tenure with Dallas.

I have this feeling he is going to go somewhere next year, start, and be a 55 reception, 700 yard guy. My only regret is that we never <really> got to see what he could do.

Anybody care to offer any guesses on where his career might go from here?
I would not be surprised to see him do really well. Some teams use pass catching TEs that are marginal blockers but the Cowboys don't.

He looked good as a pass catcher in games where he got more than one opportunity.
 

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Where we originally drafted Escobar should not affect how we view him going forward.

I admit, when our early 2nd round pick came up in 2013, many of us were pumped because there were so many good to great possible players (or ones who we thought might be) sitting there. Collins, Bell, Lacy, Hankins, Warford, Mathieu, etc were all Cowboyszone favorites for some. And several are now muli-year Pro Bowlers. So logically, some of us were not at all thrilled....to put it nicely.

But that's in the past and has nothing to due with the present decision.

They'll weigh his asking price (which will be low) vs his value going forward. The downside is limited and the upside could still be very good.

Guess we'll see.

I heard Nick Eatman report that the team tried and failed to trade Escobar (and Wilcox) before the start of the season. They couldn't get anything when they tried to move on from him.

That should speak volumes to everyone.
 

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Where we originally drafted Escobar should not affect how we view him going forward.

I admit, when our early 2nd round pick came up in 2013, many of us were pumped because there were so many good to great possible players (or ones who we thought might be) sitting there. Collins, Bell, Lacy, Hankins, Warford, Mathieu, etc were all Cowboyszone favorites for some. And several are now muli-year Pro Bowlers. So logically, some of us were not at all thrilled....to put it nicely.

But that's in the past and has nothing to due with the present decision.

They'll weigh his asking price (which will be low) vs his value going forward. The downside is limited and the upside could still be very good.

Guess we'll see.
I hate to see Escabor move on the talent is there. They had to know his body type didn't lend itself to powerful blocking
 

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I heard Nick Eatman report that the team tried and failed to trade Escobar (and Wilcox) before the start of the season. They couldn't get anything when they tried to move on from him.

That should speak volumes to everyone.
Somehow I missed that. Wow. Thanks (I think) for posting that.
 

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Somehow I missed that. Wow. Thanks (I think) for posting that.

From the last Cowboys Break podcast that I listened to. They ran down the Cowboys' free agents and put them in 3 categories:

Must keep
Allow to shop the market
Bye bye

Escobar's name literally got a second of airtime during the discussion with a 'gone' as the response I believe. Eatman made mention of the attempted trade near the end of the broadcast as I recall.
 
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