Fire Garrett?

UVAwahoos;4291742 said:
How about someone who can manage the clock, motivate the players, hire the right assistants to prepare the team. We have looked awful coming off both a bye week and now a 10 day break. It's not like we looked great on that 4 game win streak either. We were still 28th in the redzone and 19th on 3rd down conversions going into yesterday's game. If Garrett's offense isn't performing well, and his team is still making mental errors and playing sloppy, then what exactly is his purpose here?

I'd take a guy that the players are willing to rally around, and who will put his players in the best position to help them win games. Look at what Fox is doing for Tebow. He re-designed his whole offensive playbook mid-freakin-season for his QB. People are acting like garrett is some victim of no off season, when he's actually been here for 5 years now. If Fox can re-design an entire offense for his QB, then I'd take a guy like that over Garrett, who can't even adjust to screen passes to counter a blitz mid-game.

Give me Fisher, Gruden, or anyone else who knows enough to put his players in the best position to win games and execute their particular skills.


Preach it brother, every word there is true.

So many examples throughout the league where coaching makes a significant difference and we are stuck on our 5th year of Garrettball, it's amazing how people on here defend him.

Outside the protective bubble of the Cowboys Zone the opinion of Jason Garrett as viewed by the many Cowboys fans that i know range from;

a/ meh, at best

to

b/ sick and tired of the same crap for five years running with more to come.

The Garretts' have found a way, as has Campo and others, to function within Jerry world. The make him comfortable and he keeps them around, nothing more.

We need to sweep Jason, his brother, their track stumbling father, Campo and the rest of the Valley Ranch pom pom team to the curb.
 
The30YardSlant;4291653 said:
It is worrisome when an NFL coach makes such an awful and obvious error. It isnt that he made a mistake, it's the content of the mistake. I've literally never seen either of the late game errors he made, let alone both in a span of seconds.

"Fire him" is a stretch, but I wish we'd stop acting like it mwas just a normal coaching error because it simply wasnt. It was a horrendous sequence of events that nobody will ever be able to explain without building in excuses.

Yes. I would generally consider myself a Garrett fan, but that sequence was completely indefensible, to the extent that I'm genuinely beginning to question whether or not he's the right guy for the job.

As far as Cowboys coaching gaffes go, there's 4th and a foot and that sequence from yesterday. Not necessarily in that order, either.
 
UVAwahoos;4291725 said:
Of course the other teams have intensity. Their players respond to their coach. We have a ginger robot that our players clearly do not care about.

And don't hate on DeMarco. Garrett completely abandoned the run yesterday at the first sign of trouble. That's not DeMarco's fault.

He abandoned the run because there were 8 in the box and the O-Line was getting killed. If a team has to have a coach to bring out the intensity, that is just a bad football team!
 
dreghorn2;4291773 said:
Preach it brother, every word there is true.

So many examples throughout the league where coaching makes a significant difference and we are stuck on our 5th year of Garrettball, it's amazing how people on here defend him.

Outside the protective bubble of the Cowboys Zone the opinion of Jason Garrett as viewed by the many Cowboys fans that i know range from;

a/ meh, at best

to

b/ sick and tired of the same crap for five years running with more to come.

The Garretts' have found a way, as has Campo and others, to function within Jerry world. The make him comfortable and he keeps them around, nothing more.

We need to sweep Jason, his brother, their track stumbling father, Campo and the rest of the Valley Ranch pom pom team to the curb.

Maybe some of these fans will be swept away too. :rolleyes: You guys are unreal. Because it's the Cowboys it gets magnified X 10. :rolleyes:
 
UVAwahoos;4291742 said:
How about someone who can manage the clock, motivate the players, hire the right assistants to prepare the team. We have looked awful coming off both a bye week and now a 10 day break. It's not like we looked great on that 4 game win streak either. We were still 28th in the redzone and 19th on 3rd down conversions going into yesterday's game. If Garrett's offense isn't performing well, and his team is still making mental errors and playing sloppy, then what exactly is his purpose here?

I'd take a guy that the players are willing to rally around, and who will put his players in the best position to help them win games. Look at what Fox is doing for Tebow. He re-designed his whole offensive playbook mid-freakin-season for his QB. People are acting like garrett is some victim of no off season, when he's actually been here for 5 years now. If Fox can re-design an entire offense for his QB, then I'd take a guy like that over Garrett, who can't even adjust to screen passes to counter a blitz mid-game.

Give me Fisher, Gruden, or anyone else who knows enough to put his players in the best position to win games and execute their particular skills.

But since we don't have Tebow then maybe this rant is fairly obsolete.
 
Fletch;4291808 said:
Maybe some of these fans will be swept away too. :rolleyes: You guys are unreal. Because it's the Cowboys it gets magnified X 10. :rolleyes:

Hey its the truth i don't know who you hang with but the large group of Cowboy fans i know couldn't give a rip about Garrett. Perhaps yours is different.
 
Campo got three years and Wade got four. No way wonder boy only gets 1.5. He'll easily get at least 5 and likely more. He was the insider and the easy hire and Jerry will stick with him since he's comfortable with him.
 
Fletch;4291810 said:
But since we don't have Tebow then maybe this rant is fairly obsolete.

Ok, what does that mean?
 
People keep mentioning, he'll learn from this. I'm not so sure he will. He even said himself last night that given the same situation he'll do it again. After 5 years as the OC, he's still calling games like we are down by 2 TD when we are actually winning.

This guy hasn't learned crap. Part of it, I think is ,because he really believes he's the smartest guy in the room.
 
Fletch;4291823 said:
Well Fox is obviously a genius.

Sorry i didn't know it was you that i was i was replying to.

Please disregard.
 
dreghorn2;4291814 said:
Hey its the truth i don't know who you hang with but the large group of Cowboy fans i know couldn't give a rip about Garrett. Perhaps yours is different.

I hang with some pretty good people. What does that have anything to do with it? Because you hang with people who hate Garrett? That makes you more right than those who still think Garrett has this team headed in the right direction? Okay. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
 
TheStar;4291796 said:
He abandoned the run because there were 8 in the box and the O-Line was getting killed. If a team has to have a coach to bring out the intensity, that is just a bad football team!

How about run some screens, draws and quick outs then? Ever seen those run to neutralize a blitz?
 
dude...he's continually ****ed up the past 5 years. ineffective redzone offense crippled by penalties and predictive play calling.

does no one remember the ravens saying our offense is the most
predictable in the league?
 
UVAwahoos;4291573 said:
Cowher had a rebuilding project. Not the faux rebuilding project that Garrett supporters on here wanna claim...but an actual one.

Garrett has been a coach here for 5 years. We have plenty of material on him now. The team is sloppy, unprepared (looked bad after a bye and again after a 10 day break), and making similar mistakes that they did under Wade still. The 3rd down conversion rate and redzone efficiency for the offense continue to float in the lower half of the league. There's nothing he is doing as a HC or OC that is particularly unique or enticing. He's mediocre at best. We have too much talent at key positions to be led by a mediocre coach. We need a guy who is not getting out-coached each weekend and relying solely on his talent to win games.
Garrett will be here 5 yrs from now. It will be ten if he gets us to a Superbowl. Jerry is looking for stability.( Stephen even more so) .He will have to win his share of NFC east titles but as long as his record is similar to what Coughlin and Reid have done over the last ten years he is safe.He is a great "face of the franchise"He is smart, diplomatic and able. All of the people calling for his scalp are ....ing into the wind. Jerry is volatile but thoughtful and Garrett is not going anywhere.
 
Finally a sensable thread I can take part in regarding Garrett... Is he perfect heck NO but I like what's been done thus far, he's a good young head coach.
 
The Boys are 7-5, were on a 4 game win streak.... They lose 1 game in crazy fashion and the answer is to fire JG?

Too much overreaction.. 4-1 in the last 5 games!!!
It could be much worse, we could have went 1-4 and be 4-8 right now.
Which would you prefer?

Do you really think he will make that mistake again? Hopefully not and hopefully he learns from it.
 

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