Video: Fish checks in; Training camp 2022!

[RonWashington]

cute dog....i'll even bet he or she is a cowboy fan?

He is and he says DQ is not blitzing enough …

 

[basel90]

It is beginning!
Me hopes arise and me frustrations subside!

Fish thinks Sequel Elliott may be seeing his last rodeo with the Cowboys. Yes, lads, click bait, but Fish has other nuggets.

listening to jerry and stephen today, seems their priority with such players like zeke and dak is their influence in the locker room , not actual production. whenever you start hearing the GM and coaches praises the leadership part much more than production , you know you have a mediocre overpaid player and the franchise is stuck for a while with their contract. Not sure why jerry or stephen can't be honest and put some pressure on the players to produce instead of the constant praise ad naseum .

 

[CouchCoach]

If they don't think Pollard is a RB1, time to draft another. RB's are easy to pick up in the draft.

7 seasons is enough for any RB, let Elliott go.

 

[Typhus]

he is not soft

Then provide some proof, some evidence, anything else is just fluff.

 

[Typhus]

He knows this. If he stays healthy he will play hard. And if they restructure they maybe able to save a little more than 5 million.. I see a big year from him coming..

Definitely a motivational season for not only Zeke but Pollard as well.

 

[Typhus]

Zeke is gone. Pollard I could really care less about. His career has largely been wasted. If they finally use him correctly and he blows up, then yah he will be over priced. Wouldnt that be just like the Cowboys eh? LOL

I dont think Pollard resigns either way. Would you resign with a team that basically let you rot on the bench while some slow, old RB played ahead of you?

I think we see a RB taken in the 2nd or 3rd round or two backs taken. Or we see Pollard and a 2nd rounder going into next season.

That is so highly realistic and what will more than likely happen.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

listening to jerry and stephen today, seems their priority with such players like zeke and dak is their influence in the locker room , not actual production. whenever you start hearing the GM and coaches praises the leadership part much more than production , you know you have a mediocre overpaid player and the franchise is stuck for a while with their contract. Not sure why jerry or stephen can't be honest and put some pressure on the players to produce instead of the constant praise ad naseum .

Jerry is the anti-Jimmy.
Jimmy would coddle Emmitt, Aikman and Irvin but burn others alive when their production dropped.

 

[gimmesix]

I say the Cowboys find a way to keep both Zeke and Pollard after this season.

It shouldn't be that hard to do if they want to do it. Considering the carryover it looks like they'll have, restructuring Elliott and using the extra to pay Pollard would be quite simple. However, they would be paying Elliott marquee starter money and Pollard at least fringe starter money, and I'm just not sure the Joneses will do that. I could see it, though, if they carve out a role for Pollard as more than just Elliott's backup.

 

[Swagger]

listening to jerry and stephen today, seems their priority with such players like zeke and dak is their influence in the locker room , not actual production. whenever you start hearing the GM and coaches praises the leadership part much more than production , you know you have a mediocre overpaid player and the franchise is stuck for a while with their contract. Not sure why jerry or stephen can't be honest and put some pressure on the players to produce instead of the constant praise ad naseum .

It's the intangibles

 

[CowboyFrog]

Save it I’ll be right! The only out I will give myself is if Zeke were to take a big pay cut, assuming he has a good season. It would take a sizable pay cut for him to have any chance to return.

And if they have success he might, I'm not sure he gets the second big payday anywhere as the whole big contract RB is dieng a fast death.

 

[gimmesix]

Just dont understand why you want to keep investing in Zeke, hey great if you feel you cant replace him than I guess they might feel pressured into another cap dump.
There comes a time when you need to start addressing the position, esp when you got two RBs that can leverage you.
We can probably find a stop gap vet cut upgrade for RB3 still this year, but next draft this roster will need a 2/3rd round RB.

And they might not. Running backs eventually hit a wall usually quite suddenly, so they more years he plays, the more likely that is to happen (if it hasn't already). But there are also some running backs who prove that they can play at a high level for multiple years. I mentioned Adrian Peterson in another thread as one who had his best season his sixth year. (Would you have wanted to cut Peterson after rushing for more than 2,000 yards and 6.0 per carry? Note that before that season, he had only averaged more than 5 yards per carry one season, his rookie year.) Elliott was playing at a high level before his injury last year, so the question is whether the injury is his new reality or he can get back to that level of play we saw in the first five to six games. If he can, then restructuring him next year makes sense, knowing that you can still cut him at a cap savings the next year if he hits that wall.

I'm not advocating any course at this time because we don't know how Elliott will play and we don't know how Pollard will play or even what his role will be. I'm just saying there are several options we can consider than just Elliott being gone at the end of the year or Pollard being gone at the end of the year.

 

[gimmesix]

He knows this. If he stays healthy he will play hard. And if they restructure they maybe able to save a little more than 5 million.. I see a big year from him coming..

I think if he can stay healthy, he will play well. The evidence of that for me is how he was playing before his injury last year. He finally wised up (or was told to) and stopped trying to turn himself into a pure power back, dropping weight to pick up some quickness and speed, and you could see it in his play. Even his naysayers were saying nothing negative until after he got hurt.

It looks like he's been working this offseason to maintain that size and quickness. The big question for me is his health. Is he at the point where injuries slow him down every year or was last year a fluke?

 

[glimmerman]

I think if he can stay healthy, he will play well. The evidence of that for me is how he was playing before his injury last year. He finally wised up (or was told to) and stopped trying to turn himself into a pure power back, dropping weight to pick up some quickness and speed, and you could see it in his play. Even his naysayers were saying nothing negative until after he got hurt.

It looks like he's been working this offseason to maintain that size and quickness. The big question for me is his health. Is he at the point where injuries slow him down every year or was last year a fluke?

Last year was not a fluke. It’s the O-Lines health. They kept running him up the gut and rarely off tackle. Guessing because our TE Jarwin went down. If we get him the ball in space he will make big plays. Let’s see what Moore is going to do. He is calling the plays. Quit calling the same run plays so you can hurry and get to the pass.

 

[glimmerman]

Definitely a motivational season for not only Zeke but Pollard as well.

For sure. Both have a lot to play for.

 

[basel90]

Jerry is the anti-Jimmy.
Jimmy would coddle Emmitt, Aikman and Irvin but burn others alive when their production dropped.

Jerry the eternal showman and optimist likes to spoil his players with praise , then tnis gets to their head . Being dallas cowboys player and the media attention quadruples this .

 

[gimmesix]

Last year was not a fluke. It’s the O-Lines health. They kept running him up the gut and rarely off tackle. Guessing because our TE Jarwin went down. If we get him the ball in space he will make big plays. Let’s see what Moore is going to do. He is calling the plays. Quit calling the same run plays so you can hurry and get to the pass.

Although I agree that OL health is important, the biggest change from the success Elliott was having at the start of the season and the success he wasn't having later was his health. He shouldn't have been playing.

Moore almost exclusively running plays between the tackles to Elliott and outside plays to Pollard also was a problem. Just when someone finally woke him up and he saw that he could run Elliott outside with success and Pollard inside with success, Elliott got too hurt to be able to get outside well.

 

[Praxit]

If Zeke rushes for 1k+ and 8+ TDs, there is no way the Cowboys will cut him. Instead, they will restructure his contract and keep Zeke for a few more years.

..yes sir, if Zeke goes over 1k, with at least double digit TD's. I think he stays. In todays NFL, anything over 1k is feat in itself.

 

[Bullflop]

garbage

Sad but true -- he was an injury about to happen in his college career. That's not what the Cowboys need to add to their active roster.

 

[glimmerman]

Although I agree that OL health is important, the biggest change from the success Elliott was having at the start of the season and the success he wasn't having later was his health. He shouldn't have been playing.

Moore almost exclusively running plays between the tackles to Elliott and outside plays to Pollard also was a problem. Just when someone finally woke him up and he saw that he could run Elliott outside with success and Pollard inside with success, Elliott got too hurt to be able to get outside well.

We had O-Line injuries as well. All of it plays into this. Elliot had no business being on the field and I wonder who let him. He wants to be out there with Dak. He is a team player. Some will say then why did he hold out 2 years early to get paid. I can’t disagree with those people. But if he is on the team he wants to win. Ask D-Law why he held shoulder surgery off to get paid.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Is that the double platinum injury guarantee?

Shush, lad!
No good is to come from tha!