Fish: Parsons Trade calls?

Chasing6

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Khalil Mack was 2 years removed from DPOY when he netted the equivalent of 2: 1sts for the Raiders.

If you think you're getting 3, you're going to get stuck with an aging Parsons on an expensive deal.

Unload Parsons to a team with a reasonable offer outside of the division.
Best hope is to find a team that is on the bubble of the playoffs, Cinci is the only team that comes to mind in the AFC.

Otherwise trade him next year before the draft.
 

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and have him eat us alive 2x for a decade, no thanks
We could run the ball at him, haha

In all seriousness I'm a firm believer that Parsons has 2, maybe 3 more peak years left.

He's undersized and his game is predicated on rare athleticism. If any of that athleticism leaves, he won't be worth the mega deal the Jones family is bound to pay him.

Trade him for the best value while we can.
 

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Khalil Mack was 2 years removed from DPOY when he netted the equivalent of 2: 1sts for the Raiders.

If you think you're getting 3, you're going to get stuck with an aging Parsons on an expensive deal.

Unload Parsons to a team with a reasonable offer outside of the division.
Nah...not unless he is disgruntled and demanding out.

Parsons ability to juke OLineman, get them on roller skates and then attack is second to none. Its like watching Michael Jordan...that is how much better he is than the Olineman trying to block him. Ive seen him cut through doubles with ease based on his athleticism and instinct to juke and get olineman on roller skates and blow by them.

he might be bad in other areas....but his rushing ability is top notch, imo...and he can do it against double teams.

im not settling for anything other than GOOD compensation for Parsons.

this board would try and groom me to believe I should only expect 2 FRP's for Mahomes.

if you want my guy, come at me with good picks and a handful of late round picks. call other teams, accumulate the picks and then call me. simple.
 

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Best hope is to find a team that is on the bubble of the playoffs, Cinci is the only team that comes to mind in the AFC.

Otherwise trade him next year before the draft.
That would probably result in the best compensation. But we still could pick up his 5th year option and trade him in the offseason.
 

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Nah...not unless he is disgruntled and demanding out.

Parsons ability to juke OLineman, get them on roller skates and then attack is second to none. Its like watching Michael Jordan...that is how much better he is than the Olineman trying to block him. Ive seen him cut through doubles with ease based on his athleticism and instinct to juke and get olineman on roller skates and blow by them.

he might be bad in other areas....but his rushing ability is top notch, imo...and he can do it against double teams.

im not settling for anything other than GOOD compensation for Parsons.

this board would try and groom me to believe I should only expect 2 FRP's for Mahomes.
Parsons also wears down and isn't nearly as impactful in weeks 11-18. How long until that's just his baseline?

Trade now while his value is high. The alternative is letting him walk for a comp pick or getting stuck with a bad contract (IMHO).

For the record, Mahomes is worth no less than 4 1sts. A different situation for sure
 

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Would you let him go to the Commanders for 2 firsts? I don't think so, throw in a 2nd as well then yes. Be tough to watch him with that team.
The Lions would give up their entire 2025 draft to get him plus they need to replace Hutchinson if they're serious about winning the super bowl this year.
 

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Click bait, there's no calls for Parsons during the season especially when he's injured...I'd entertain trade offers prior to the draft next year though
You would get much better draft capital now. Teams that wanna win the Superbowl this year are more likely to give up more to get what they need like the Lions who are in perfect position to make a run plus they need to replace Hutchinson and Parsons would check all those boxes for the Lions.
 

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We could run the ball at him, haha

In all seriousness I'm a firm believer that Parsons has 2, maybe 3 more peak years left.

He's undersized and his game is predicated on rare athleticism. If any of that athleticism leaves, he won't be worth the mega deal the Jones family is bound to pay him.

Trade him for the best value while we can.
fair
 

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I almost ignored this thread for one reason. It is being reported by Mike Fisher. When was the last time this guy has been right about anything Dallas will do via free agency or trades. If he reports it then it is not happening.
 

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You would get much better draft capital now. Teams that wanna win the Superbowl this year are more likely to give up more to get what they need like the Lions who are in perfect position to make a run plus they need to replace Hutchinson and Parsons would check all those boxes for the Lions.
Yeah.

Frankly it would be dumb for the Lions to NOT make an offer.

With 1.5 years left on a rookie deal, they wouldn’t even be committed for that long.
 

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We could run the ball at him, haha

In all seriousness I'm a firm believer that Parsons has 2, maybe 3 more peak years left.

He's undersized and his game is predicated on rare athleticism. If any of that athleticism leaves, he won't be worth the mega deal the Jones family is bound to pay him.

Trade him for the best value while we can.
Are you able to provide historical data for Parsons position and what the top earners have been paid over the last 15 years in relation to cap?

I find the wording you are using as unfair IF IF IF Parsons' 30M contract is in line with percentage of cap for TOP RUSHERS over the past 15 years.

You are making it sound like Parsons will be 3-5% more against the cap.

Deals for NFL players are only going to keep rising with 30 teams and revenue jumping. The NFLPA agreed on the players getting 48% or whatever...and that 48% is what leads to a cap of 255M...of which each team has to spend at least 90% of the 255M.

The players are generating the money and the owners are getting their 52%. MEGA DEAL based on being a top player in a profession that is generating 15Billion a year seems right to me.

Everything about that wording is unfair unless the player is asking for like 5% more than any other top player at the position. I know you dont care....but the Owners are the ones getting the mega deals here.

Can you provide proof that Parsons doesnt deserve top earner percentage cap at his position...and then provide proof that he is asking for too much compared to historical data?
 

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That would probably result in the best compensation. But we still could pick up his 5th year option and trade him in the offseason.
We already picked up his 5th year option.
 

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If Jerry trades parsons we will be lucky to get 1 first round pick. But if I was a GM I would be calling Jerry and offering him a 2, 3,4 and 2 5ths. "I am giving you 5 picks, Jerry. This is your Herschel Walker trade!" Jerry would say yes.
 

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Are you able to provide historical data for Parsons position and what the top earners have been paid over the last 15 years in relation to cap?

I find the wording you are using as unfair IF IF IF Parsons' 30M contract is in line with percentage of cap for TOP RUSHERS over the past 15 years.

You are making it sound like Parsons will be 3-5% more against the cap.

Deals for NFL players are only going to keep rising with 30 teams and revenue jumping. The NFLPA agreed on the players getting 48% or whatever...and that 48% is what leads to a cap of 255M...of which each team has to spend at least 90% of the 255M.

The players are generating the money and the owners are getting their 52%. MEGA DEAL based on being a top player in a profession that is generating 15Billion a year seems right to me.

Everything about that wording is unfair unless the player is asking for like 5% more than any other top player at the position. I know you dont care....but the Owners are the ones getting the mega deals here.

Can you provide proof that Parsons doesnt deserve top earner percentage cap at his position...and then provide proof that he is asking for too much compared to historical data?
I don't think you need to approach it that way.

Parsons is going to reset the EDGE market, which means he'll be somewhere between 35-40M a year.

Depending on structure, timing, etc, the cap % impact may be a little lower or a little higher than other top EDGE guys. That's just how the NFL works.

He's probably worth that right now, but it's not a good allocation of resources for this team that needs a large influx of talent.

This is based on my opinion that Parsons will not be worth the contract by the time this team is rebuilt well enough to contend again in a few short years.
 

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Answer the call!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does it even matter at this point? This front office would have no idea how to get the most value for anyone on our roster. We give up the most for the players and receive the least for players.
 

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Does it even matter at this point? This front office would have no idea how to get the most value for anyone on our roster. We give up the most for the players and receive the least for players.
Stupid as hell isn't it, real GM would get the max, we'd get crumbs! You wouldn't be able to tell Jerry that he didn't make a great deal, he'll go back to the days when he bought the team and how many great deals he made, this one would be right up there with it. Micah for a 5th and a 5th next year!!!! lol
 
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