Fish: Parsons Trade calls?

[FanofJerry]

I don't think you need to approach it that way.

Parsons is going to reset the EDGE market, which means he'll be somewhere between 35-40M a year.

Depending on structure, timing, etc, the cap % impact may be a little lower or a little higher than other top EDGE guys. That's just how the NFL works.

He's probably worth that right now, but it's not a good allocation of resources for this team that needs a large influx of talent.

This is based on my opinion that Parsons will not be worth the contract by the time this team is rebuilt well enough to contend again in a few short years.

You dont want to pay someone that produced for you and is one of the premier players in the league, because you want to gamble on being right...that he wont be worth his contract by the time his second contract is up?

Or because you dont think this is the team for Parsons at his pay scale?

Or because you know you would run him into the ground, playing time wise, that he would be damaged goods by the end of his second contract?

I dont know about that reasoning.

If someone is so good that they are getting double and triple teamed...I think you pay them, load manage him so that he doesnt get worn out at the end of the year.

Unless there is strong data that suggests he will fall off or that there are strong flaws to his 'non-rushing the QB game'...I dont see how you moneyball this guy.

No offense to you, but I think you are letting money-ball get in the way of football with this one.

 

[Chasing6]

it’s not like we are getting 7 wins. pick up the phone

They just made a big trade.

 

[KingCorcoran]

That would probably result in the best compensation. But we still could pick up his 5th year option and trade him in the offseason.

He’s not showing up for anything with any team without an extension first. No team is going to offer good draft capital to acquire a guy that‘s going to want a minimum of $25 million per season. He’s a Cowboys player now, and will be until they release him.

 

[Chasing6]

He’s not showing up for anything with any team without an extension first. No team is going to offer good draft capital to acquire a guy that‘s going to want a minimum of $25 million per season. He’s a Cowboys player now, and will be until they release him.

More like $40M

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Acquire picks to be able to move up and get Manning.

but manning is a freshman and we need another 3 years....

 

[Chasing6]

but manning is a freshman and we need another 3 years....

And we have Dak. Plenty of time to get ready.

 

[Hoofbite]

The calls are probably coming from Parsons.

His career will be wasted in Dallas as they slow rebuild beyond Daks 3-4 year sandbag window. I’d want out too.

 

[Mr_437]

Be tough to watch him with that team.

It would be awesome to watch him take over a game at AT&T for the Commodes because Jerry is being a stubborn old dude.

 

[Nova]

He’s not showing up for anything with any team without an extension first. No team is going to offer good draft capital to acquire a guy that‘s going to want a minimum of $25 million per season. He’s a Cowboys player now, and will be until they release him.

This is exactly the trade scenario that happened when Mack was traded to the Bears.

Mack was holding out before his 5th year option season, and was traded early September.

The Bears extended him, and making the cap hit more palatable than a standard FA signing.

But it's a good point. I mentioned earlier that the Lions would be dumb not to sign Parsons because there is no commitment. That's likely not true, because Parsons could hold out.

 

[IceStar-D7]

jerry may be your hc and starting rb next year lol

I wouldn't doubt it,Bro....

 

[Section446]

Trade his ***.

Start gathering draft picks and rebuild this thing.

 

[SiCk_DiAbLo]

I'm sure Dan called about Micah, those two were in love...

 

[Nova]

You dont want to pay someone that produced for you and is one of the premier players in the league, because you want to gamble on being right...that he wont be worth his contract by the time his second contract is up?

Or because you dont think this is the team for Parsons at his pay scale?

Or because you know you would run him into the ground, playing time wise, that he would be damaged goods by the end of his second contract?

I dont know about that reasoning.

If someone is so good that they are getting double and triple teamed...I think you pay them, load manage him so that he doesnt get worn out at the end of the year.

Unless there is strong data that suggests he will fall off or that there are strong flaws to his 'non-rushing the QB game'...I dont see how you moneyball this guy.

No offense to you, but I think you are letting money-ball get in the way of football with this one.

No offense taken.

Actually, I'm not thinking money-ball, at all.

We shouldn't pay players for what they have done. We should instead pay players for what we think they will do.

I just feel like a Bosa like extension (5yrs) is a big commitment to a guy whose game is predicated on freakish athleticism.

I think other teams are in a better position to capitalize on his peak window, and the trade compensation we could get for him would time up better with our rebuild.

Can't say I'll be 100% right about this, but it just feels like a Zeke situation again (btw we're paying a dead cap hit of 6M this year for him).

 

[Hawkeye0202]

We could run the ball at him, haha

In all seriousness I'm a firm believer that Parsons has 2, maybe 3 more peak years left.

He's undersized and his game is predicated on rare athleticism. If any of that athleticism leaves, he won't be worth the mega deal the Jones family is bound to pay him.

Trade him for the best value while we can.

+1 ........and I am a strong supporter but future injuries scare the heck out of me. I would hate to lock him in on a 4-5 year deal as the highest-paid defensive player and can't get a full season from him. Similar to Sean Lee's last couple of years. I would love to keep him if I could have some assurance he could stay healthy.

 

[FanofJerry]

No offense taken.

Actually, I'm not thinking money-ball, at all.

We shouldn't pay players for what they have done. We should instead pay players for what we think they will do.

I just feel like a Bosa like extension (5yrs) is a big commitment to a guy whose game is predicated on freakish athleticism.

I think other teams are in a better position to capitalize on his peak window, and the trade compensation we could get for him would time up better with our rebuild.

Can't say I'll be 100% right about this, but it just feels like a Zeke situation again (btw we're paying a dead cap hit of 6M this year for him).

Just take note...

Your posts drift into the 'demonetize the player' category.

No one wants to pay any anymore. There are weak excuses constantly being used to defend not paying a player on this website.

They want you to overpay for your goods, but get screwed when you sell your goods.

You are falling into the anti-pay cult by falling for the 'money-ball' game.

They should do away with low rookie contracts if everyone wants to use rookies and let someone else HOPEFULLY deal with a producing player that deserves his payday.

You strip this board down, and DESERVES is a word of the Devil when used in regards to paying a player. "I deserve to be able to use you, and you dont deserve anything"....does sound fair or reasonable to you?

Get rid of low rookie contracts if you arent going to pay, or expect someone else to pay, a producing player.

Rules of the game need to be changed. This money-ball stuff is ruining everything and making people bi-polar. Its sad. "Dont invade me and my family, but I'll invade you and yours"...its all hypocritical.

Its funny, your thinking about the money side, yet Jerry is getting shamed for thinking about money.

Just get managing the cap out of sports, to the point that fans dont have to think about it. Its ruining everything.

 

[Praxit]

..dont know what you guys are seeing, but Parsons seems to be on decline already.

NFL is no joke. THose big boys are eating his lunch. Might have another 3-4 yrs left. He's no Reggie white or Aaron Donald.

 

[diamonddelts]

Parsons extension will have a no trade clause and a no condom clause. Sorry he is not going anywhere.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

The most Jerry Jones’ move would be to trade Parsons for a 4th rounder. He’d then say “I really wanted to get back that 4th rounder we lost trading for that reciever.”

 

[Chasing6]

No offense taken.

Actually, I'm not thinking money-ball, at all.

We shouldn't pay players for what they have done. We should instead pay players for what we think they will do.

I just feel like a Bosa like extension (5yrs) is a big commitment to a guy whose game is predicated on freakish athleticism.

I think other teams are in a better position to capitalize on his peak window, and the trade compensation we could get for him would time up better with our rebuild.

Can't say I'll be 100% right about this, but it just feels like a Zeke situation again (btw we're paying a dead cap hit of 6M this year for him).

I have been saying this for some time. We owe nothing to no one, if they out played their contract.

Pay them accordingly to their future performance. If they want more trade them.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

https://athlonsports.com/nfl/dallas...rsation-claims-espn-adam-schefter-jerry-jones

Cowboys Deadline Trade Of Micah Parsons in 'Conversation,' Claims ESPN's Adam Schefter​

Despite owner Jerry Jones promising to "go for it" before Tuesday's NFL trade deadline, ESPN inside Adam Schefter suggests the "dye has been cast" on the Dallas Cowboys' failed season.

Someone tell Athlonsports that, indeed, the DIE has been cast alright.

Real sharp analysis, telling we Cowboys fans what we've suspected with The Packers and then with New Orleans, Detroit and Baltimore.
This team has few stars and they are divas. The Cowboys have no heart because they have no leader in its QB.
Bad drafts, bad trades and seemingly little accountability, only rewards.
If Parsons is traded we could hope for a 1st or a 2nd and a 3rd from a low-echelon low-achieving team with a good draft order.
Otherwise, we could add a good DE and a good LB for what this diva will ask.