Fisher on Terrance Williams

[conner01]

Williams will settle in and be fine. The fun thing to watch will be to see how Miles Austin responds to Williams being drafted. Williams is a direct threat to his job.

i don't think he is all that big a threat to austin now. in the future probably so but thats the nfl. for now he will go outside and austin to the slot. the person who will really lose out to his playing time is harris. anytime he comes in it will be harris who misses out

 

[Bull Frog]

it actually does seem to matter. most of the recievers who have been very good have had bigger hands. seems logical the bigger your hands the easier it is to catch the ball.
but i did'nt watch him much in college, did he have a problem with drops? i know he dropped some yesterday but i'm sure there was alot of nerves

I watched almost every game he played. He doesn't have a problem with drops, in fact I always thought the opposite. When you have 97 catches and play on an offense that runs more plays than any other team in the nation you may have a drop or two. I love this guy.

 

[SDCowboy]

All receivers drop passes. As long as they don't bounce off their hands right to a defender, it's typically not a big deal.

 

[SDCowboy]

Williams will settle in and be fine. The fun thing to watch will be to see how Miles Austin responds to Williams being drafted. Williams is a direct threat to his job.

Not really. Williams is an outside guy opposite Dez. Miles will be put in the slot. The threat to Miles' job is his contract and injuries.

 

[Bleu Star]

His first dropped pass, the fans will turn on him.

Terrell Owens approves your angle.

 

[Dhragon]

Hope people remember that it takes time (perhaps years) for a WR to develop. Williams might not be really good for awhile despite his talent, and that's the norm.

It seems some seem to think he'll be a probowler his first year. Temper your expectations on him and give him time to develop.

 

[Galian Beast]

Not really. Williams is an outside guy opposite Dez. Miles will be put in the slot. The threat to Miles' job is his contract and injuries.

You're right to an extent, but his production compared to his cost versus Miles' production compared to his cost will certainly be part of the equation. That being said, people shouldn't write off Austin so quickly.

As for Cole BeasTly, for an undrafted free agent playing in his rookie year, and being undersized, I think he has a lot of upside. He screams Dallas Cowboys. People want to hold a grudge against him because he left the team? They have no idea what he was dealing with, and at the time he was certainly a long shot to make the team. He came back and he produced, and he was also able to produce in some roles when he was given an opportunity. He's going to turn into a good football player if he gets a decent chance. Exactly the type of player that we want here.

 

[Galian Beast]

Hope people remember that it takes time (perhaps years) for a WR to develop. Williams might not be really good for awhile despite his talent, and that's the norm.

It seems some seem to think he'll be a probowler his first year. Temper your expectations on him and give him time to develop.

Why aren't there more posters like this on a regular basis. Quite right. Players take time to develop. I like how we're starting to develop through the draft rather than just accumulate free agents who are here for a couple years and then gone. We now have real depth at wide receiver building up at the moment. Romo should never again have a shortage of legitimate weapons for the remainder of his career. If we can develop some of these guys at the bottom of the depth chart, maybe we can even trade a player or two.

When was the last time we traded a player and got more than a 4th rounder draft pick for them?

 

[Picksix]

i don't think he is all that big a threat to austin now. in the future probably so but thats the nfl. for now he will go outside and austin to the slot. the person who will really lose out to his playing time is harris. anytime he comes in it will be harris who misses out

Not really. Williams is an outside guy opposite Dez. Miles will be put in the slot. The threat to Miles' job is his contract and injuries.

If Miles continues to struggle with injuries as he has, Harris will see his share of time. The guy I think is in real trouble with Williams being here is Beasley.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

it actually does seem to matter. most of the recievers who have been very good have had bigger hands. seems logical the bigger your hands the easier it is to catch the ball.
but i did'nt watch him much in college, did he have a problem with drops? i know he dropped some yesterday but i'm sure there was alot of nerves

TWilliams is 6-2. 6-2 guys don't normally have large hands. I am 6-2, my hands are average for the height.

 

[conner01]

I watched almost every game he played. He doesn't have a problem with drops, in fact I always thought the opposite. When you have 97 catches and play on an offense that runs more plays than any other team in the nation you may have a drop or two. I love this guy.

thats great. i did'nt watch him in college so i was curious. i imagine these guys are very nervous and things are moving around them very fast. on top of that they are being taught a ton of things and trying to remember all that, plus being nervous is certainly hard.
it will take him some time but if in a year or two he can replace miles and be as productive we will have our selves a good one

 

[DFWJC]

TWilliams is 6-2. 6-2 guys don't normally have large hands. I am 6-2, my hands are average for the height.

I'm sure when they are comparing hand size, it is vs other NFL WRs and not vs the general population.
Hand size is a definite attribute for WRs. Huge asset.
But there have been some good (not many) WRs that have small hands.

But just for comparison:

Dez Bryant = 9 3/4...and 34 inch long arms
Dwayne Harris = 10 1/4
Terrence Wiiliams = 8 3/4 (tiny hands for an NFL WR)...short arms too at 31 1/4

Keenan Allen has 10" hands for example.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

I'm sure when they are comparing hand size, it is vs other NFL WRs and not vs the general population.
Hand size is a definite attribute for WRs. Huge asset.
But there have been some good (not many) WRs that have small hands.

But just for comparison:

Dez Bryant = 9 3/4...and 34 inch long arms
Dwayne Harris = 10 1/4
Terrence Wiiliams = 8 3/4 (tiny hands for an NFL WR)...short arms too at 31 1/4

Keenan Allen has 10" hands for example.

Again, 6-2 people normally don't have large hands. Doesn't matter if it's the NFL, NBA, or any other sport. Don't know why this is so hard to understand.

 

[T-RO]

NFL scouts absolutely do consider hand size when evaluating prospective receivers. While it might not be a required attribute...It's not trivial.

Big, strong hands are one of the things that made Irvin great...and help Dez. (Both have 9 3/4" -- a full inch larger than T-Wil's).

Terrence's hands are in the lowest 10% in size for an NFL receiver.

 

[conner01]

there is a reason why they measure guys hands and arm length. those things are not the only things but they are important things. a guy with small hands does'nt mean he can't play but the majority of those who are successful have big hands. just like guards and their arm length.
not saying williams can't play, i like what i think he can bring but it is a disadvantage for him but there is nothing he can do about that except work hard and play smart

 

[DFWJC]

Again, 6-2 people normally don't have large hands. Doesn't matter if it's the NFL, NBA, or any other sport. Don't know why this is so hard to understand.

I'm having zero comprehension problems. You seem to be the one missing the point.
I'm just stating facts about most NFL WRs that are 6'2...which is what we are talking about.
8 3/4 inch hands are very small for a 6'2" NFL WR.
Get it?

Like I said, it's not any sort of deal breaker, just an observation of a stastical outlier.

 

[JohnsKey19]

NFL scouts absolutely do consider hand size when evaluating prospective receivers. While it might not be a required attribute...It's not trivial.

Big, strong hands are one of the things that made Irvin great...and help Dez. (Both have 9 3/4" -- a full inch larger than T-Wil's).

Terrence's hands are in the lowest 10% in size for an NFL receiver.

Sure it helps. But I wouldn't suddenly be concerned about the size of his hands if he never had an issue before with drops or making the tough catches.

 

[DFWJC]

Sure it helps. But I wouldn't suddenly be concerned about the size of his hands if he never had an issue before with drops or making the tough catches.

That's right. A sta like small hand or short arms would just make the scouts go back to the tape a little harder. You certainly cna't get away with being a body catcher as muc in the nfl--have to snag that ball with your mitts.

At the combine, the measure hands tip of thumb to tip of pinky.
I just measured mine at 9 5/8 and barely over 6'0". 8 3/4 IS small for 6'2" NFL WR. It's not crippling at all though.
I just looked up Jerry Rice's and they were only about 9 1/4.
The guy who has some mitts for his size is Harris.

Here's a link to the NFL Combine measurables for WRs

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...e-2013-wide-receiver-measurables-measurements

 

[TwoDeep3]

You people missed the point of what this is about.

The short side is he has small hands for his size and will OCCASIONALLY drop open passes.

But, from everything said, Fisher noted they need to get this guy on the field as much as possible.

Now that could mean they need to do so to get him reps and overcome his dropsies that happen OCCASIONALLY.

But what it really meant is this.

This guy will be a player for this team and have a significant role if they can get him on the field.

So the thread was about Williams and the positive things he would bring to the table for Dallas.

The small hands and drops means he needs to focus now that he's in the bigs, and look the ball into his hands.

Yet Garrett also said, which was in the original post, is that this guy is really good in traffic.

So while the argument starts about this side and that, this was a good news post - with all the details I remember from the Fish comments included, so no one would think I was keeping something out because this is a pet cat or something.

Rejoice, this isn't a Wes Welker short guy, but a long strider that can get deep.

 

[DFWJC]

You people missed the point of what this is about.

The short side is he has small hands for his size and will OCCASIONALLY drop open passes.

But, from everything said, Fisher noted they need to get this guy on the field as much as possible.

Now that could mean they need to do so to get him reps and overcome his dropsies that happen OCCASIONALLY.

But what it really meant is this.

This guy will be a player for this team and have a significant role if they can get him on the field.

So the thread was about Williams and the positive things he would bring to the table for Dallas.

The small hands and drops means he needs to focus now that he's in the bigs, and look the ball into his hands.

Yet Garrett also said, which was in the original post, is that this guy is really good in traffic.

So while the argument starts about this side and that, this was a good news post - with all the details I remember from the Fish comments included, so no one would think I was keeping something out because this is a pet cat or something.

Rejoice, this isn't a Wes Welker short guy, but a long strider that can get deep.

Yeah, we got side-tracked on the hands thing, but I think your right on the overall message.