Five Dallas Cowboys Thoughts: How Important Is It To Draft A QB In Round One?

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The Dallas Cowboys only have one game left on this glorious 2015 schedule. Once the season ends, we will all put on our forward face and look ahead at all the great things that will be coming our way. After all, there are some good things looming. The Cowboys will get some nice new toys with great draft spots in April. Tony Romo stands a great chance to play in more games in 2016 than he did this season. And all the young guys on the roster will be more experienced. What's not to like about all that?

Here are just a few things that have been on my mind heading into the final week of the season.

link/http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2015...ow-important-is-it-to-draft-a-qb-in-round-one
 

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Vitally important.

While it's true that a high percentage of 1st round QBs are busts, the facts are that most starting QBs in the NFL entered the league as high draft picks. A higher percentage than probably any other position on the field.

Do a roll call of all regular starters if you dont believe me.
 

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It depends. It would be great to get the top qb in the draft when we pick. There may only be one guy with a first round grade. If he goes to Cleveland I wouldn't want them to take the 30th best player at pick 4 or 6. I think it is important to get a qb that they consider a potential starter in a year or 2. I think to get that guy they can't wait any lower than their 3rd rd pick which will still be a top 70 pick.
 

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I have zero knowledge of lower round QB's. So I promote the top five guys just because
I read about em. Goff has got my interest big time.

Taking a developmental guy with "potential" in the latter rounds could be profitable but highly risky. If they want better odds on finding Tony's heir, they must pick the candidate in the 1st round.
 

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Vitally important.

While it's true that a high percentage of 1st round QBs are busts, the facts are that most starting QBs in the NFL entered the league as high draft picks. A higher percentage than probably any other position on the field.

Do a roll call of all regular starters if you dont believe me.

Most playoff bound quarterbacks were free agent acquisitions or picks outside of the top 10.

Aaron Rodgers, Teddy Brodgewater, Tom Brady, Andy Dalton, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Cousins, Russell Wilson, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brock Osweiler, even the Texans/Colts were led by non conventional quarterbacks. Alex Smith/Carson Palmer were free agent acquisitions....only QB that went high in the first was Cam Newton.

A few of the players I listed were firsts, most were not.
 

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If Goff is there, take him. If not, draft a qb in the later rounds. It'd be nice to draft a qb this round, but I'm not going to reach.
 

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No they sisnt


Most playoff bound quarterbacks were free agent acquisitions or picks outside of the top 10.

Aaron Rodgers, Teddy Brodgewater, Tom Brady, Andy Dalton, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Cousins, Russell Wilson, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brock Osweiler, even the Texans/Colts were led by non conventional quarterbacks. Alex Smith/Carson Palmer were free agent acquisitions....only QB that went high in the first was Cam Newton.

A few of the players I listed were firsts, most were not.

I think the Chiefs traded for Alex Smith, but I see your point.
 

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I have zero knowledge of lower round QB's. So I promote the top five guys just because
I read about em. Goff has got my interest big time.

Honestly, you really don't need to bother trying to learn about most of them. Only a handful from each draft make it through a camp. We are so used to overhyping trick shot players from YouTube that we forget that they really can't play in this league .
 

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As long as the GM stays true to the board and draft the BEST player on their board I am ok,.....just don't reach or gamble with trading picks....This is a rare opportunity to get a franchise type player......make the best of it....

Last time they drafted this high was 2011 (without a trade up) they get Tyron Smith......stay true to your board and take the BPA
 

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Rodgers, Smith, Bridgewater & Palmer were all highly touted first round picks.

Dalton was an early second round pick
 

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I think the Chiefs traded for Alex Smith, but I see your point.

Essentially the same thing.

It seems like most of the good teams in the NFL are getting by with either getting lucky and having a franchise QB fall to them later in the first (Packers, Vikings), free agency pickup or they lucked out and snagged one outside of the first round.

This logic shows me that it may be a good idea to trade back and watch a QB we need fall to us or take one outside of the first and set our sights on an immediate impact player. If all else fails, an acquisition can be made.

Recent history makes me even more scared of QB's taken in the first round. EJ Manuel, Brandon Weeden, RGIII, Christian Ponder, Jake Locker, Johnny Manziel and Blaine Gabbert were all taken in the last few years and all of them were considered busts.

Andrew Luck, Ryan Tannehill, Teddy Bridgewater (32nd overall) and Blake Bortles were also taken...neither of them are considered busts but you can argue QB's picked outside of the first have outplayed them (Russell Wilson, Andy Dalton, Derek Carr for example). Cam Newton, once again, is the only player that is playing at elite status and that even took several years to develop.
 

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Rodgers, Smith, Bridgewater & Palmer were all highly touted first round picks.

Dalton was an early second round pick

Rodgers and Bridgewater both fell in the draft because of concerns. That goes to show you that you can land a QB with a first round grade later in the draft. It that happens in this draft, we could trade back up into the first to land such a player like the Vikings did.

Alex Smith and Carson Palmer were acquisitions...they were not drafted by the teams that they are having their success with. If anything, that proves that you have a better chance at making an acquisition to fill your QB need than spending a top 10 pick on one. The cardinals and I am sure the Chiefs tried that strategy in the past but failed.

The whole point is, you do not need to invest a top 10 pick to land a playoff caliber quarterback in the NFL anymore.
 

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While I think it is time to start looking for a QB, I do not feel the need to draft one in the first round this year. I am not sure if any of the QB this year are nfl ready. I admit I haven't watched much college football but I did watch Lynch yesterday and color me not impressed at all by him. Goff seems to be the best of the bunch from what I can tell from reports and videos but still not NFL ready. I don't know that I would take him with an early 1st pick. No problem with an early 2nd though. I would prefer our 1st round player be an impact player immediately, not sit on the bench for 2 years getting ready.
 

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The Dallas Cowboys only have one game left on this glorious 2015 schedule. Once the season ends, we will all put on our forward face and look ahead at all the great things that will be coming our way. After all, there are some good things looming. The Cowboys will get some nice new toys with great draft spots in April. Tony Romo stands a great chance to play in more games in 2016 than he did this season. And all the young guys on the roster will be more experienced. What's not to like about all that?

Here are just a few things that have been on my mind heading into the final week of the season.

link/http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2015...ow-important-is-it-to-draft-a-qb-in-round-one

I personally do not think the top 2 guys are worth a top 5 pick. But if the Cowboys believe they are then THEY MUST take one. I personally would take a DT, DB or WR with our pick then take an RB/ QB in RD 2 then QB/RB in RD 3
 

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Vitally important.

While it's true that a high percentage of 1st round QBs are busts, the facts are that most starting QBs in the NFL entered the league as high draft picks. A higher percentage than probably any other position on the field.

Do a roll call of all regular starters if you dont believe me.

Oh I believe you..

Facts are all our top QBs not named Romo were high picks.

Meredith
Craig Morton
Staubach
Danny White
Troy Aikman

While Staubach was not drafted high..he would have been as a Heisman except for his service committment.

So while the Cowboys have enjoyed not investing in a QB with a top pick for over 10 years..

we have run out of time now and must invest.

Everybody in our division except the Iggles have done so and you can be sure they are going to pull the trigger with Kelly now fired.

Its a no brainer.
 

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Oh I believe you..

Facts are all our top QBs not named Romo were high picks.

Meredith
Craig Morton
Staubach
Danny White
Troy Aikman

While Staubach was not drafted high..he would have been as a Heisman except for his service committment.

So while the Cowboys have enjoyed not investing in a QB with a top pick for over 10 years..

we have run out of time now and must invest.

Everybody in our division except the Iggles have done so and you can be sure they are going to pull the trigger with Kelly now fired.

Its a no brainer.

The Commanders investment was a bust.

The Eagles did make a second round investment, he is on another team.

The Giants only hit because they had a "can't miss" Manning prospect. There is a not a can't miss prospect in this draft. As far as your comparison to the past Cowboy quarterbacks, the NFL has changed a lot since then.
 

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Not against taking a QB though that doesn't look like the direction Dallas is pointed. ... but any year you don't have one you will likely land a Draft Choice early enough to take a QB.
 
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