Five Dallas Cowboys Thoughts: How Important Is It To Draft A QB In Round One?

[Killerinstinct]

Jerry would be foolish not too. Tony is the most instinctive QB to play for the Cowboys since Roger Staubach.

Romo could end up being the QB coach in a few years and OC after that. It makes perfect sense for Jones to get his opinion.

 

[reddyuta]

I wouldn't be so sure about Dallas won't take a QB in round one. I know JJ has come out and said that he expects Tony to play a few more years, but there have also been a number of statements that hint that they may very well take one if the value is there. My guess, and none of us will know for sure, is that if Dallas has one of the QB's rated very highly on their board and he's available when they pick, they take him. It really comes down to where players are on their board. I certainly don't think they will reach at all for one, but if the value is there at the pick, they'll pull the trigger. Just my "Joe Fan" opinion, of course.

I believe they very interested.the valley ranch visits would be a telling indicator on how seriuos they are about the QBs

 

[bayeslife]

No they sisnt


Most playoff bound quarterbacks were free agent acquisitions or picks outside of the top 10.

Aaron Rodgers, Teddy Brodgewater, Tom Brady, Andy Dalton, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Cousins, Russell Wilson, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brock Osweiler, even the Texans/Colts were led by non conventional quarterbacks. Alex Smith/Carson Palmer were free agent acquisitions....only QB that went high in the first was Cam Newton.

A few of the players I listed were firsts, most were not.

Just curious, why are you limiting it playoff bound quarterbacks? Are you implying that all 20 quarterbacks not in the playoffs are not starter quality? Or are you simply trying to ignore the fact that most QBs have been picked top 10?

 

[LandryFan]

I agree...the fact that Jerry can hardly go a week without talking about him over the past several months tells me all I need to know.




I believe RGIII is pretty much a lock for free agency.

Either QB (JF or RG3) would put JJ in the headlines for a while and we all know how much JJ likes being in the spotlight. On top of that, JJ subscribes to the philosophy that players were picked in the first round for a reason...someone saw something in them that made them worth the pick. Admittedly, there's truth to that philosophy sometimes and the player actually pans out. As you pointed out, JJ seems to have this obsession with JF, so I wouldn't rule anything out with him.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Rodgers, Smith, Bridgewater & Palmer were all highly touted first round picks.

Dalton was an early second round pick

Rodgers was a bargain Basement deal for GB. Smith was a high pick that cost the team that took him (49ers) greatly. Palmer was wasted on Cincy. A really good talent, IMO, but simply went to a bad team. Fortunately for the Cards, they have a team around him and he is winning for them but still, Cincy took it in the shorts on that one as well.

I am not opposed to taking a QB later, if we like one. The key, IMO, to getting a good QB is picking a guy who has the skills and then developing him. I have never been a fan of just throwing a guy in and letting him sink or swim, so to speak. We did that with Troy and he was able to overcome it but he is the exception, IMO, and not the rule. Seen too many talented QBs fail because they weren't given time to develop. If there is not a guy who we believe is a can't miss kind of prospect, then I have no issue with taking a guy later who we feel has what it takes and just allowing him to develop the right way.

JMO

 

[LandryFan]

I believe they very interested.the valley ranch visits would be a telling indicator on how seriuos they are about the QBs

True. Ranch visits mean something when it comes to interest in a player.

 

[csirl]

Rodgers and Bridgewater both fell in the draft because of concerns. That goes to show you that you can land a QB with a first round grade later in the draft. It that happens in this draft, we could trade back up into the first to land such a player like the Vikings did.

Alex Smith and Carson Palmer were acquisitions...they were not drafted by the teams that they are having their success with. If anything, that proves that you have a better chance at making an acquisition to fill your QB need than spending a top 10 pick on one. The cardinals and I am sure the Chiefs tried that strategy in the past but failed.

The whole point is, you do not need to invest a top 10 pick to land a playoff caliber quarterback in the NFL anymore.

Concerns or not, Rodgers and Bridgewater still went first round.

Palmer & Smith

So, if you don't invest in a first round yourself, your other option is to spend megabucks on someone else's first rounder in free agency.

I prefer drafting as its better value for money albeit with greater risk.

The best ex-first rounder in free agency this season is Stafford of the Lions. Though signing someone else's first rounder is still risky - ask the egirls.

 

[Fredd]

Dallas had done very well with their first round picks in the last few years with multiple pro-bowlers...so, whomever is making those choices needs to NOT be kicked out of the war room for the other choices

IMO, a QB is a necessity, but you don't reach in the draft for one...especially if there is a bonafide star at another position (like on defense)....I am going to reserve most of my comments for the draft until this week's game is over and we know where Dallas is drafting....but, I am not adverse to a trade down in round 1 if we get ridiculous value...but like I said above, let the guy who is drafting the 1st rounders make the decisions, not anyone with Jones or Garrett after their name (McClay?)

 

[csirl]

We need a starting QB. No guarantees that Romo will last a season or even be able to play at a high level for a long period. If we don't draft one who potentially may have to start multiple games in 2016, then we need a FA signing.

Sitting a first round QB on the bench for a year or two because Romo does in fact have a pro bowl season in 2016 isn't that bad an outcome either.

 

[robjay04]

Just curious, why are you limiting it playoff bound quarterbacks? Are you implying that all 20 quarterbacks not in the playoffs are not starter quality? Or are you simply trying to ignore the fact that most QBs have been picked top 10?

If most QBs were picked in the top 10...prove it. Please limit it to successful QB's that are still with the team that drafted them.

Taking a quick glance at all NFL teams, I will bet you will be disappointed when you find out about 10 or so teams are playing with a top 10 QB that they drafted.

The point is....that you do not need to spend a top 10 pick on a QB to make the playoffs or much less win the Superbowl. (Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco, etc.)

The Manning brothers are the only top 10 pick quarterbacks to win a Superbowl since John Elway (I could be wrong but I don't think so) and I don't see a Manning brother in this years draft..

 

[LandryFan]

Jerry can't go after RGIII. His contract is prohibitive. Manziels however is perfect.

I could very well be mistaken about RG3's contract, but I was under the impression that his contract was only guaranteed in case of injury. If they cut him, which is a possibility, that contract would be void. If they trade him, RG3 could negotiate a new deal prior to the trade going down. Again, I may be totally off base there, but that's what I believe the case to be. If it comes down to having a choice of both Manziel and RG3, then JJ would no doubt jump at JF, IMO.

 

[Killerinstinct]

I could very well be mistaken about RG3's contract, but I was under the impression that his contract was only guaranteed in case of injury. If they cut him, which is a possibility, that contract would be void. If they trade him, RG3 could negotiate a new deal prior to the trade going down. Again, I may be totally off base there, but that's what I believe the case to be. If it comes down to having a choice of both Manziel and RG3, then JJ would no doubt jump at JF, IMO.

No your right. RG3 contract does not come with the dead money I thought it would. He can be cut and signed by another team for any amount they agree to. RG3 does come with knee issues though. I don't know how bad they are.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I actually would be interested in one man's take on Johnny Football and that would be Romo. He always seemed to have the knack in pre-season to tell us his prediction on who his next breakout player would be. He also said he would be the guy to pick the QB to eventually replace him. Romo is a Jedi and when he retires as QB from the Cowboys, he will only become stronger. So I would give up a 2nd or 3rd for JF, if Romo is ok with it.

A premium draft pick for JF?

No. Just no.

 

[csirl]

I could very well be mistaken about RG3's contract, but I was under the impression that his contract was only guaranteed in case of injury. If they cut him, which is a possibility, that contract would be void. If they trade him, RG3 could negotiate a new deal prior to the trade going down. Again, I may be totally off base there, but that's what I believe the case to be. If it comes down to having a choice of both Manziel and RG3, then JJ would no doubt jump at JF, IMO.

If I were RG3s agent I wouldn't be entertaining any trade talks. I'd be telling my client to stay and collect his pay packet. RG3 is never going to be a top level QB getting a premium salary elsewhere. No sense in him seeking a trade.

 

[LandryFan]

No your right. RG3 contract does not come with the dead money I thought it would. He can be cut and signed by another team for any amount they agree too. RG3 does come with knee issues though. I don't know how bad they are.

His knee would be a huge factor in whether (and for how much $$$) to sign him. Another major factor would be whether a team thinks he has the smarts to be an NFL starter. He didn't show a lot in Washington.

 

[FiveTime]

Rodgers was a bargain Basement deal for GB. Smith was a high pick that cost the team that took him (49ers) greatly. Palmer was wasted on Cincy. A really good talent, IMO, but simply went to a bad team. Fortunately for the Cards, they have a team around him and he is winning for them but still, Cincy took it in the shorts on that one as well.

I am not opposed to taking a QB later, if we like one. The key, IMO, to getting a good QB is picking a guy who has the skills and then developing him. I have never been a fan of just throwing a guy in and letting him sink or swim, so to speak. We did that with Troy and he was able to overcome it but he is the exception, IMO, and not the rule. Seen too many talented QBs fail because they weren't given time to develop. If there is not a guy who we believe is a can't miss kind of prospect, then I have no issue with taking a guy later who we feel has what it takes and just allowing him to develop the right way.

JMO

Cincy had some really good years Palmer, Chad Johnson, and TJ Housh.....until a Steelers cheap shot knocked Palmer out.

 

[LandryFan]

If I were RG3s agent I wouldn't be entertaining any trade talks. I'd be telling my client to stay and collect his pay packet. RG3 is never going to be a top level QB getting a premium salary elsewhere. No sense in him seeking a trade.

I had not thought of that angle. If RG3 were to be traded, I guess that means his 5th year option contract gets traded with him. If that's the case, I don't think he or his agent would be opposed to a trade, but I doubt another team would be willing to take on his contract. Another scenario that they would very likely consider (and one that would most likely occur should he be traded) is that he negotiate a new long term contract. He would most likely make less in the first year of that contract, but gain overall with the added years. I don't know much about much, so I could be wrong about all this contract stuff.

 

[perrykemp]

I didn't think Blake Bortles was worth taking #3 overall two years ago.

Fast forward to today and the dude is closing in on 40 TD passes this season.

Hopefully the Cowboy's scouts have been scouting this top college QBs and have a good idea of if there is a QB worth taking when the Cowboys draft.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I would give up a 2nd or 3rd for JF

I just threw up in my mouth.


Oh crap now it's going every where.......

 

[StarBoyz83]

I highly doubt dallas uses one of the first 3 picks on a qb.