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I agree that it is good that they fined him. The high rate of major injury injury from such an offense warrants more than a minimum fine, IMO. The neck is a highly mobile structure with many sensitive contents that is not well protected. Any injury of the neck is potentially devastating - not just career threating but actually life-threatening. (BTW, I am a spine injury doctor).

It is a start but it is not acceptable. I think the league needs to consult doctors when it hands out fines. Not all unnecessary roughness is equal. Flo's high to Tuck would cause little more than a bruised ego.
 

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Hypnotoad;3187461 said:
I think all fines go to charity
Any fine money collected pursuant to this Article will be contributed to the Brian Piccolo Cancer Fund, the Vincent T. Lombardi Cancer Research Center, ALS Neuromuscular Research Foundation, and the NFLPA Players Assistance Trust ("P.A.T.") or will be used for such other purpose as the Parties may agree. In the absence of any such agreement, any such fine money shall be allocated equally among the four organizations mentioned in the preceding sentence. - Page 35, NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement, 2006-2012, Article XI, Commissioner Discipline, Section 6, Fine Money, http://www.nflplayers.com/images/fck/NFL%20COLLECTIVE%20BARGAINING%20AGREEMENT%202006%20-%202012.pdf
 

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Rampage;3187522 said:
just think about it. he hit him in the head while he was being taken down from behind. if he wasn't being taken down from behind he probably would've hit him in the chest.

It really doesn't matter to me because in the end he was a defenseless receiver trying to make a catch and Fletcher approached the situation with malice. He didn't just want to separate the ball, he was trying to decapitate Crayton just at the moment the ball arrived when he was totally defenseless. It is one thing to swipe at the ball or bump someone, but Fletcher came in with a flying forearm that ended up going straight at Crayton's neck. It is not good enough, IMO. The league needs to reivew how they hand out fines. That should be a $50K fine. If the league won't cough it up, Fletcher should man up and cough it up voluntarily for his reckless tackle against a defenseless player.
 

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Eskimo;3187566 said:
It really doesn't matter to me because in the end he was a defenseless receiver trying to make a catch and Fletcher approached the situation with malice. He didn't just want to separate the ball, he was trying to decapitate Crayton just at the moment the ball arrived when he was totally defenseless. It is one thing to swipe at the ball or bump someone, but Fletcher came in with a flying forearm that ended up going straight at Crayton's neck. It is not good enough, IMO. The league needs to reivew how they hand out fines. That should be a $50K fine. If the league won't cough it up, Fletcher should man up and cough it up voluntarily for his reckless tackle against a defenseless player.
I wish our guys did that more often.
 

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Hoofbite;3187467 said:
I seriously doubt that Fletcher was intentionally trying to hit Crayton the way he did. I've never heard of Fletcher being a dirty player.

Stokely however, went way above and beyond complaining. He ran like 25 yards to that official, chewed his as and then swiped at him.

You saw the play, correct? That to you was a complete accident? Really? Driving a fore arm through another players jaw was an accident? I don't really care if you have not "heard of him being a dirty player". That was a dirty play. Period. Blows to the head are illegal in case you forgot the rules. The fact that he kept diving his arm forward and down shows it was no accident. He made no attempt to back off as he cheap shot him.
 

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Didn't Flozell get 15K for a simple trip?

No comparison to what Fletcher did at all!

Flozell got 50K for pushing Tuck down from behind - not much chance to injure either!
 

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Cajuncowboy;3187429 said:
London Fletcher was fined 10G for the blatant cheap shot on Crayton but Brandon Stokley got a 25G fine for touching the tip of a refs finger!

Makes all the sense in the world. The NFL is run by clowns.

Refs are the Boss Man's company men. You don't touch them without serious repercussions. Even if it wasn't a serious event.

Sad but true.
 

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http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***/archives/2009/12/washingtons-london-fletcher-fined-for-hi.html

Washington inside linebacker London Fletcher was not penalized for his first-quarter hit on Cowboys wide receiver Patrick Crayton Sunday at FedEx Field, but he was fined $10,000 by the league on Thursday.

Fletcher was fined for, "striking a defenseless receiver in the head area." It was a pretty vicious hit on a third-down throw from Tony Romo over the middle. Crayton, however, got up right away and did not seemed to be slowed at all during the course of the game.
 

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Crayton is a bad-*** for getting up from that hit, Fletcher looked like he was head hunting, but it still seems dumb that he gets the same fine for a brutal hit as flo gets for sticking his leg out when he misses a block
 

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ThreeSportStar80;3187588 said:
At least he got fined!

That is not good enough for a potentially life-threatening hit that the league is trying to clamp down on.

I am shocked that Cowboys Nation finds this $10K fine to be acceptable. I guarantee that no other team would think this is acceptabe punishment for such a blow. I want Jerry to make a big stink about it - a real big stink. This is not good enough and the league needs to understand that the minimum fine does not need to be applied all the time.

You all are a bunch of sheep if you accept this judgment.
 

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Eskimo;3187679 said:
That is not good enough for a potentially life-threatening hit that the league is trying to clamp down on.

I am shocked that Cowboys Nation finds this $10K fine to be acceptable. I guarantee that no other team would think this is acceptabe punishment for such a blow. I want Jerry to make a big stink about it - a real big stink. This is not good enough and the league needs to understand that the minimum fine does not need to be applied all the time.

You all are a bunch of sheep if you accept this judgment.
Who's accepting the judgment? And if someone's not, what exactly are they doing about it?
 

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ThreeSportStar80;3187588 said:
At least he got fined!

that's not good enough, anymore. Crayton is Cowboys' family. We need to be holding Goodell's feet to the fire just like he tries to do to us every time on of our players does anything.
 

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Eskimo;3187685 said:
that's not good enough, anymore. Crayton is Cowboys' family. We need to be holding Goodell's feet to the fire just like he tries to do to us every time on of our players does anything.
Sounds like the beginnings of a plan. Will there be billboards involved?
 

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DallasEast;3187683 said:
Who's accepting the judgment? And if someone's not, what exactly are they doing about it?

what I'm getting at is we shouldn't just say "at least they fined him." We should be upset about it and we (meaning Cowboys' FO) should be petitioning the league to increase the fine. The fans should not accept this is a just result. We should be upset about this "slap on the wirst".

That's what I'm getting at.
 

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Eskimo;3187688 said:
what I'm getting at is we shouldn't just say "at least they fined him." We should be upset about it and we (meaning Cowboys' FO) should be petitioning the league to increase the fine. The fans should not accept this is a just result. We should be upset about this "slap on the wirst".

That's what I'm getting at.
There have been many vicious hits dished out throughout the years. I wonder how often have franchise front offices petitioned for harsher fines?
 

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DallasEast;3187686 said:
Sounds like the beginnings of a plan. Will there be billboards involved?

I would contribute. As far as the NFL is concerned I'm small potatoes. I carry no weight with the league. Jerry Jones does and he needs to let the league know that we don't think their judgment is just. I want Jones to show how much he cares about our players. It is time for some leadership from the top.

Lord knows Synder would be petitioning to put our entire team on quarantine if one of us had happened to sneeze on one of his players.

One of them tried to take one of ours heads off. I don't like it. None of us should like it. Jerry Jones shouldn't like it. It is not part of football.
 

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DallasEast;3187691 said:
There have been many vicious hits dished out throughout the years. I wonder how often have franchise front offices petitioned for harsher fines?

The point is the league now wants head shots outlawed. They have fined our players much more for far less. I want the penalty to fit the crime. You deliver a flying elbow to someone's neck, then you miss a game for a first offense at the very minimum. $10K is proably less than 0.5% of his yearly salary. $50K makes a player take notice.
 

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BTW DallasEast - you seem to be good with graphics. What does it cost for a billboard for a week? Just curious.

Given my means, I'd suggest a letter writing campaign to the league.
 

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Eskimo;3187695 said:
I would contribute. As far as the NFL is concerned I'm small potatoes. I carry no weight with the league. Jerry Jones does and he needs to let the league know that we don't think their judgment is just. I want Jones to show how much he cares about our players. It is time for some leadership from the top.

Lord knows Synder would be petitioning to put our entire team on quarantine if one of us had happened to sneeze on one of his players.

One of them tried to take one of ours heads off. I don't like it. None of us should like it. Jerry Jones shouldn't like it. It is not part of football.
This is football. Usually, payback is conducted on the field. It isn't usually "litigated" through "official channels".

It was a first offense for Fletcher this season. The CBA (agreed upon by owners and players) specified a set amount for the fine. The commissioner employed the fine.

Charities will benefit. Unless it hasn't been reported, Crayton wasn't physically unaffected by the hit. There will be opportunities in the future for Fletcher's "kindness" to be returned in kind. I just don't see why Jerry Jones must go all Sean Connery in The Untouchables on Goodell for a football hit which was duly processed by him. It certainly wasn't ignored.
 
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