FO did an impressive job with Brock Hoffman

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Keep on laughing as we pile up win after win.
That's more like a continual crying in one's beer...with 'sanctions.' I still respect Jerry and the team. For my record.
 

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First of all the jury still out on Wally I think he actually has something he can't stay healthy... I believe the coaches know a little bit more than you because they see the guy in practice breakdown game tape and I believe they know what positions these guys are stronger at and that is why Edoga has been playing swing tackle... Why would you move your swing guards how to tackle when they possibly could be Chaz green and I believe the coaches have inside information on who might be better at these positions or they would have already did it they're not purposely making that guy your backup tackle because of what you think he's blackmailing them?? But again we have ball and Wally but in my opinion Richards probably has more raw talent that I believe he will get that opportunity next year at left tackle... I mean tyron might be back but we're gonna need a guy who can take some significant snaps and I believe it's gonna be Richards I know he's not been active a lot but the stuff I've seen from him he's got the body type he's physical but he's really raw I think he's what we all thought Tyler Smith was gonna be and didn't realize he was gonna be good right away but Richards is a raw talent....
I think the coaches know quite a bit more than me, but that doesn't mean they can't be wrong. Playing Edoga at left tackle when he has previously failed at it proved to be the wrong move. It hurt us. You'd have a hard time convincing me we wouldn't have been better off kicking Tyler back out to left tackle when Tyron was out and playing either Edoga or Bass at left guard.

I'm still intrigued by Waletzko, but shoulder injuries in back-to-back years are troubling. And I like what I've seen from Richards and hope he can develop. Ideally, we'd be able to keep Tyler at left guard and either Waletzko or Richards could eventually replace Tyron at left tackle, but we'll see.
 

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I think the coaches know quite a bit more than me, but that doesn't mean they can't be wrong. Playing Edoga at left tackle when he has previously failed at it proved to be the wrong move. It hurt us. You'd have a hard time convincing me we wouldn't have been better off kicking Tyler back out to left tackle when Tyron was out and playing either Edoga or Bass at left guard.

I'm still intrigued by Waletzko, but shoulder injuries in back-to-back years are troubling. And I like what I've seen from Richards and hope he can develop. Ideally, we'd be able to keep Tyler at left guard and either Waletzko or Richards could eventually replace Tyron at left tackle, but we'll see.
Dude I think you're misunderstanding I stand by what I said because I think that they know those other guys would be worse or they would put them out there I mean I don't know how to better explain it to you that's why they know more than you they've seen practice they've seen guys out there I'm sure they practice it we don't get to see everything they don't tell us everything there are a lot of closed practices the media doesn't get to come they know who they have in each of their players and they think edoga is our best option out there and I'm gonna have to roll with them they saw how he's played and they haven't made a change tells me that he's our best option at left tackle
 

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Hate to be a grammar cop, but a period separating sentences makes a post much more readable.
 

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Isn't it ironic in the Taylor Smith thread yesterday I had to calm everyone down and say hey I've seen both these kids play and I thought they did pretty well this year in spot duty and everyone said Brock Hoffman was trash and they rather have a doga and I said I don't know what you've been watching and here we are now giving props to these guys.. Do I need to go back and bookmark my responses pregame not having to backtrack and now give them props..

We had three backup offensive lineman in Arizona had our best run production game of season that game.. Last night very similar it's very odd that with the backups we seem to run the ball better I don't know if it's an attitude a scheme play calling change but I don't know what it is the starting five have not seem to be that consistent in the run game but these backups seem to be more fresh younger better in the run game then they are the pass game but they held up fine yesterday...
Use Hunter and rico more, more 2 man backfields, use the FB much more , keep tp fresh. In my opinion this should be the new playoff blueprint for the run game...
Or we just played Washington.

Cardinals gave up the most rushing yards this season.
 

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I'm still telling you it takes reps it takes time they showed enough that there is some confidence here like say we gotta move on from TB who by the way pretty good in the past game I like the way he pulls gets out in the zone but he's still too light and gets bull rushed real easy I can see us transitioning to another center like Hoffman in in time that's what training camp is preseason is for you get enough reps he might be better we don't know this until he gets significant playing time.... You remember when everyone said that Terrence Steele was trash lot of people didn't like Doug free literally a lot of us saw small things in spot duty that could make these guys good players and you know what the coaches were right the supporters were right put them on the field let them play they will grow...

And I know Terrence Steele post injury is not the same but he was our best run blocker bar none before his injury it affected our whole season and our run game last year after he went down.... All we're saying here and I see it even in a guy like Richards has some raw talent these guys can be groomed and we're just trying to point out that all the overreactions before the game work for not that we're trying to tell people that we have some backups that possibly could could grow into starters eventually....
I’m kinda cautiously optimistic about Hoffman. I haven’t deep dived his snaps but he seems to be decent and reps could make him solid. Biadasz took time to get better but I think he’s hit his ceiling and being a FA I wouldn’t extend him unless it was short and cheap. I like the attitude bass plays with
 

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Dude I think you're misunderstanding I stand by what I said because I think that they know those other guys would be worse or they would put them out there I mean I don't know how to better explain it to you that's why they know more than you they've seen practice they've seen guys out there I'm sure they practice it we don't get to see everything they don't tell us everything there are a lot of closed practices the media doesn't get to come they know who they have in each of their players and they think edoga is our best option out there and I'm gonna have to roll with them they saw how he's played and they haven't made a change tells me that he's our best option at left tackle
How about people think you are wrong.
Can your ego withstand that without childish insults?
or hundreds of words of drivel that basically say you are the only smart one in the room?
CONSIDERING HOW MANY MISTAKES the coaches make just saying they know more does not mean they have great judgement
 

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Dude I think you're misunderstanding I stand by what I said because I think that they know those other guys would be worse or they would put them out there I mean I don't know how to better explain it to you that's why they know more than you they've seen practice they've seen guys out there I'm sure they practice it we don't get to see everything they don't tell us everything there are a lot of closed practices the media doesn't get to come they know who they have in each of their players and they think edoga is our best option out there and I'm gonna have to roll with them they saw how he's played and they haven't made a change tells me that he's our best option at left tackle
I think it's more of a case of them wanting to keep Tyler at LG if Tyron is just going to miss a game or two. Some coaches are really big on continuity and making as few changes as possible. You can't possibly tell me that you believe Edoga is a better option at LT than Tyler.

At guard when given the chance, the evidence is that Edoga can play pretty well. He's not out there with as much space to operate as he is with tackle. Plus, what we've seen from Bass at guard is encouraging.

There are all kinds of reasons for coaches' decisions and sometimes it takes them a while to figure out they made a bad one. I think putting Edoga at LT when Tyron was out was a bad one. Again, I think the evidence is on tape from his days in New York and it has borne out here.

You can trust your eyes even if coaches have seen more of the players than we have. We have seen their strengths and weaknesses in games.
 

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It's very impressive what the front office has done with the back up oline with Brock Hoffman and Bass.
Yes. I do suspect if the value is there we will go oline in the 1st or 2nd round though
 

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I’m kinda cautiously optimistic about Hoffman. I haven’t deep dived his snaps but he seems to be decent and reps could make him solid. Biadasz took time to get better but I think he’s hit his ceiling and being a FA I wouldn’t extend him unless it was short and cheap. I like the attitude bass plays with
Didn't care for his struggles in the preseason. Thought he deserved to be cut, and he was. But he's also a first-year player, so maybe the team saw enough in him to believe that he could improve. Sunday's game was encouraging even though that would probably be the easiest line he would face as a starter since Washington was without Jonathan Allen.

It's possible that if Biadasz leaves in free agency, Hoffman could be the top option to be his replacement. I will gladly admit that that scares me.
 

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I’m kinda cautiously optimistic about Hoffman. I haven’t deep dived his snaps but he seems to be decent and reps could make him solid. Biadasz took time to get better but I think he’s hit his ceiling and being a FA I wouldn’t extend him unless it was short and cheap. I like the attitude bass plays with
and I have to keep reminding fans that you can't have pro bowlers at every position the Cowboys have been spoiled along the offensive line in my opinion over the last decade or so just like finding multiple quarterbacks that we didn't have to reach for in the first round that turned out to be great you cannot expect to have that kind of depth that just step in and be first team all pros or pro bowlers you have to have players that are just good or even just above average all teams are made-up of similar rosters you have some superstars you have some good players and then you have a bunch of role players that you just hope can do their job adequately.... Salary caps and roster limits say you gotta have players like that and once you get them involved and playing all the time they will get better just like Terrence field did just like Doug free did lots of players just need some time on the field and if they just good you have to live with that...
 

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I think it's more of a case of them wanting to keep Tyler at LG if Tyron is just going to miss a game or two. Some coaches are really big on continuity and making as few changes as possible. You can't possibly tell me that you believe Edoga is a better option at LT than Tyler.

At guard when given the chance, the evidence is that Edoga can play pretty well. He's not out there with as much space to operate as he is with tackle. Plus, what we've seen from Bass at guard is encouraging.

There are all kinds of reasons for coaches' decisions and sometimes it takes them a while to figure out they made a bad one. I think putting Edoga at LT when Tyron was out was a bad one. Again, I think the evidence is on tape from his days in New York and it has borne out here.

You can trust your eyes even if coaches have seen more of the players than we have. We have seen their strengths and weaknesses in games.
Right now with his foot hurt he may not even be the best option at left guard but you can't move him out the left tackle if he's a all pro left guard you just gotta find another guy which might be Richards in a couple years or it could be shockingly someone developed like Wally or ball but right now I'm talking about the last six weeks he obviously is the best option at left tackle because we did not wanna move Tyler out of a position where he's playing like he could possibly turn into Larry Allen.. They never asked Larry Allen to move back they're not gonna ask Tyler to move back unless it's an absolute emergency so yes over the last six weeks or this year edoka has been our best option to be our swing tackle according to the coaches and again I am gonna believe them I didn't say on the team but if you're leaving Tyler at left guard and now that he hurt his foot it doesn't matter you can't put him at left tackle with a hurt foot you can play inside a little bit better with a hurt foot but when you gotta make that drop step hard and move a lot more as a tackle he's no good for us this year at tackle not for the rest of the playoffs..
 

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I'm concerned about us being able to run the ball on good teams and close the game out I'm also concerned about us being able to stop the run.
There's no more bad teams we need to be able to do both to succeed
 

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Yep, I thought he played very well also. I've seen all pros crap the against lesser competition.
 

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Isn't it ironic in the Taylor Smith thread yesterday I had to calm everyone down and say hey I've seen both these kids play and I thought they did pretty well this year in spot duty and everyone said Brock Hoffman was trash and they rather have a doga and I said I don't know what you've been watching and here we are now giving props to these guys.. Do I need to go back and bookmark my responses pregame not having to backtrack and now give them props..

We had three backup offensive lineman in Arizona had our best run production game of season that game.. Last night very similar it's very odd that with the backups we seem to run the ball better I don't know if it's an attitude a scheme play calling change but I don't know what it is the starting five have not seem to be that consistent in the run game but these backups seem to be more fresh younger better in the run game then they are the pass game but they held up fine yesterday...
Use Hunter and rico more, more 2 man backfields, use the FB much more , keep tp fresh. In my opinion this should be the new playoff blueprint for the run game...
we lost the Arizona game but all the BU Olinemen showed well
 
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