FO did an impressive job with Brock Hoffman

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and I have to keep reminding fans that you can't have pro bowlers at every position the Cowboys have been spoiled along the offensive line in my opinion over the last decade or so just like finding multiple quarterbacks that we didn't have to reach for in the first round that turned out to be great you cannot expect to have that kind of depth that just step in and be first team all pros or pro bowlers you have to have players that are just good or even just above average all teams are made-up of similar rosters you have some superstars you have some good players and then you have a bunch of role players that you just hope can do their job adequately.... Salary caps and roster limits say you gotta have players like that and once you get them involved and playing all the time they will get better just like Terrence field did just like Doug free did lots of players just need some time on the field and if they just good you have to live with that...
I think fans don’t realize how important those role players are. A guy like Fowler, a solid vet that doesn’t cost a lot but in limited reps he really makes an impact. We’ve been spolid no doubt. We drafted really well but some fans only remember the bad picks lol
 

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Didn't care for his struggles in the preseason. Thought he deserved to be cut, and he was. But he's also a first-year player, so maybe the team saw enough in him to believe that he could improve. Sunday's game was encouraging even though that would probably be the easiest line he would face as a starter since Washington was without Jonathan Allen.

It's possible that if Biadasz leaves in free agency, Hoffman could be the top option to be his replacement. I will gladly admit that that scares me.
He may not be ready next year to replace him but I think he could be the swing G/C guy already. Not sure what we do at center. I don’t think Biadasz is coming back so we could draft a guy but it won’t be a guy ready to start most likely so may be Hoffman gets a lot of snaps in pre season and holds the job. It’s hard to really see the oline watching the game on tv but at center I didn’t see him get blown up and at guard I think he got beat once where he got out of position. Hopefully he can be the guy and be Atleast as good as Biadasz now and better with reps
 

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It's very impressive what the front office has done with the back up oline with Brock Hoffman and Bass.
I think dak getting the ball out quicker helps. Possible we could go with a cheaper OL in the future and put that money elsewhere.
 

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Ok whoa. Look, I’m the OP from the TJ Bass thread and I love watching these guys play, but if you think Hoffman played well we aren’t watching the same tape. Hoffman isn’t a long term solution even at backup
 

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He may not be ready next year to replace him but I think he could be the swing G/C guy already. Not sure what we do at center. I don’t think Biadasz is coming back so we could draft a guy but it won’t be a guy ready to start most likely so may be Hoffman gets a lot of snaps in pre season and holds the job. It’s hard to really see the oline watching the game on tv but at center I didn’t see him get blown up and at guard I think he got beat once where he got out of position. Hopefully he can be the guy and be Atleast as good as Biadasz now and better with reps
Well, he's already the backup center, so I don't really see that role going away. I don't know what we're going to do for a starting center. If we let Biadasz walk, but Tyron comes back, then I'd be interested in seeing Bass tried out at the spot. My only concern is if he shows he can't handle it, I wouldn't want Hoffman as our only other option. I mean, it might turn out fine but it's a big if. If Tyron retires or leaves as a free agent, then we have to figure out if we're going to kick Tyler out to LT or try to find an LT from Richards and Waletzko or bring in an LT.

We may essentially have five players (Tyler, Richards, Waletzko, Bass and Hoffman) battling for two spots with Tyler assured to get one. It's questionable, though, if any of those others are worthy of the other two or if they would just end up starting by default. I'd say if we let Tyron and Biadasz both go, we'll draft at least one OL fairly early to compete for one of those spots. I don't think it would be a first-round pick, but it really depends on how we feel about these five.
 

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Right now with his foot hurt he may not even be the best option at left guard but you can't move him out the left tackle if he's a all pro left guard you just gotta find another guy which might be Richards in a couple years or it could be shockingly someone developed like Wally or ball but right now I'm talking about the last six weeks he obviously is the best option at left tackle because we did not wanna move Tyler out of a position where he's playing like he could possibly turn into Larry Allen.. They never asked Larry Allen to move back they're not gonna ask Tyler to move back unless it's an absolute emergency so yes over the last six weeks or this year edoka has been our best option to be our swing tackle according to the coaches and again I am gonna believe them I didn't say on the team but if you're leaving Tyler at left guard and now that he hurt his foot it doesn't matter you can't put him at left tackle with a hurt foot you can play inside a little bit better with a hurt foot but when you gotta make that drop step hard and move a lot more as a tackle he's no good for us this year at tackle not for the rest of the playoffs..
I agree. If you are leaving Tyler at left guard no matter what, then Edoga was the best "known" option. I personally would have thrown Richards in there some, especially games, because Edoga's weaknesses are proven while Richards can grow. Well, like I said, knowing Edoga's weaknesses, I would have kicked Tyler out to tackle, but I do agree that they did not seem to want to do that this year. Now, with his foot injury, I definitely wouldn't want to ask him to play tackle, but that's part of the reason we picked up Collins, to help cover our injury concerns.
 

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Isn't it ironic in the Taylor Smith thread yesterday I had to calm everyone down and say hey I've seen both these kids play and I thought they did pretty well this year in spot duty and everyone said Brock Hoffman was trash and they rather have a doga and I said I don't know what you've been watching and here we are now giving props to these guys.. Do I need to go back and bookmark my responses pregame not having to backtrack and now give them props..

We had three backup offensive lineman in Arizona had our best run production game of season that game.. Last night very similar it's very odd that with the backups we seem to run the ball better I don't know if it's an attitude a scheme play calling change but I don't know what it is the starting five have not seem to be that consistent in the run game but these backups seem to be more fresh younger better in the run game then they are the pass game but they held up fine yesterday...
Use Hunter and rico more, more 2 man backfields, use the FB much more , keep tp fresh. In my opinion this should be the new playoff blueprint for the run game...
Man that's an excellent point. Our running game has been better with those guys. Small sample size, but it's still there.
 

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we lost the Arizona game but all the BU Olinemen showed well
well it was quite obvious why we lost that game the defense wasn't gonna stop anyone no matter what we did I mean it was a team loss but really gotta lean back on what that defense couldn't do was get the stops that gave the ball back and some confidence to the offense.. They weren't great in pass protection either I mean they weren't giving any time to press got and got a lot of penalties but I'm sure they're getting better...
 

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I agree. If you are leaving Tyler at left guard no matter what, then Edoga was the best "known" option. I personally would have thrown Richards in there some, especially games, because Edoga's weaknesses are proven while Richards can grow. Well, like I said, knowing Edoga's weaknesses, I would have kicked Tyler out to tackle, but I do agree that they did not seem to want to do that this year. Now, with his foot injury, I definitely wouldn't want to ask him to play tackle, but that's part of the reason we picked up Collins, to help cover our injury concerns.
Yes it will be interesting to see if the coaches go to Collins first if Tyler can't make it through a game or do they go back to bass..
 

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Well, he's already the backup center, so I don't really see that role going away. I don't know what we're going to do for a starting center. If we let Biadasz walk, but Tyron comes back, then I'd be interested in seeing Bass tried out at the spot. My only concern is if he shows he can't handle it, I wouldn't want Hoffman as our only other option. I mean, it might turn out fine but it's a big if. If Tyron retires or leaves as a free agent, then we have to figure out if we're going to kick Tyler out to LT or try to find an LT from Richards and Waletzko or bring in an LT.

We may essentially have five players (Tyler, Richards, Waletzko, Bass and Hoffman) battling for two spots with Tyler assured to get one. It's questionable, though, if any of those others are worthy of the other two or if they would just end up starting by default. I'd say if we let Tyron and Biadasz both go, we'll draft at least one OL fairly early to compete for one of those spots. I don't think it would be a first-round pick, but it really depends on how we feel about these five.
Has bass played center?
 

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Has bass played center?
There was some talk about the team trying him there, but I think that was mainly from fans. Don't know if the team would think about it, but considering the ability he shows at guard, I'd think about it if Tyron is returning. Of course, not every offensive lineman can handle snapping the ball while a 300-pound man is breathing down his neck.
 

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Isn't it ironic in the Taylor Smith thread yesterday I had to calm everyone down and say hey I've seen both these kids play and I thought they did pretty well this year in spot duty and everyone said Brock Hoffman was trash and they rather have a doga and I said I don't know what you've been watching and here we are now giving props to these guys.. Do I need to go back and bookmark my responses pregame not having to backtrack and now give them props..

We had three backup offensive lineman in Arizona had our best run production game of season that game.. Last night very similar it's very odd that with the backups we seem to run the ball better I don't know if it's an attitude a scheme play calling change but I don't know what it is the starting five have not seem to be that consistent in the run game but these backups seem to be more fresh younger better in the run game then they are the pass game but they held up fine yesterday...
Use Hunter and rico more, more 2 man backfields, use the FB much more , keep tp fresh. In my opinion this should be the new playoff blueprint for the run game...
Ironic how quickly some are to say, "I told you so," and pat themselves on the back for getting something right, while implicitly denigrating other fans - even those who didn't ever offer an opinion at all.
 

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There was some talk about the team trying him there, but I think that was mainly from fans. Don't know if the team would think about it, but considering the ability he shows at guard, I'd think about it if Tyron is returning. Of course, not every offensive lineman can handle snapping the ball while a 300-pound man is breathing down his neck.
There were reports that the plan was to have Bass take about 300 snaps per week in the regular season to get him used to taking snaps, so that he could compete next year for the Center position. I have no idea if that plan was implemented, or not. But it was clearly stated at the end of training camp that the Cowboys would be regularly getting Bass some snaps off to the side to prepare him for 2024. If it did happen, I wonder who was taking the snaps - a coach, or one of the backup QB's.
 

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There were reports that the plan was to have Bass take about 300 snaps per week in the regular season to get him used to taking snaps, so that he could compete next year for the Center position. I have no idea if that plan was implemented, or not. But it was clearly stated at the end of training camp that the Cowboys would be regularly getting Bass some snaps off to the side to prepare him for 2024. If it did happen, I wonder who was taking the snaps - a coach, or one of the backup QB's.
Thanks. I couldn't remember if it was just talk on here.
 

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Ironic how quickly some are to say, "I told you so," and pat themselves on the back for getting something right, while implicitly denigrating other fans - even those who didn't ever offer an opinion at all.
Actually no I get to do that because people around here overreact they say a lot of things they become very dramatic they argue with you some of them call you names some of them call you out on that same thread a dude literally said he's glad I'm not the coach and I tried to tell everyone not to worry so I'm gonna come back and say I told you so you damn skippy.. Same thing at the beginning of the year I said we win 11:50 not to worry that we have plenty of depth everyone said we didn't I said don't worry about the turnovers cause Prescott is not that guy a whole bunch of things at the beginning of the year there are a whole lot of trolls in here so I had to keep receipts and yeah I am going to come back and let people know.. when I feel it's important..

By the way I guarantee the whole 28 year I hate Jerry we hadn't done anything ever and they can't ever enjoy the regular season as soon as they lose in the playoffs there's gonna be about 75 trolls that haven't posted in a while that are gonna over flood this place and tell everybody how they told you so so yes it turnabouts fair play..
 

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There was some talk about the team trying him there, but I think that was mainly from fans. Don't know if the team would think about it, but considering the ability he shows at guard, I'd think about it if Tyron is returning. Of course, not every offensive lineman can handle snapping the ball while a 300-pound man is breathing down his neck.
I looked back at his college career. Looks like he played tackle and guard but no center. But a guy could spend the off season learning the technical parts of a position. I sure would just to make myself more valuable. I really like the edge he plays with and I think with more reps he could be a player
 

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They did well, but Washington got rid of Sweat and Young, and didn't play Payne. So that wasn't really much of a test.
 
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