Twitter: For fans concerned about Dak passing under 200 yards

[Galian Beast]

Do people want to go back to the days of when we attempted 40-50 passes with Romo and he was racking up 300-400 yards a game in losses? I don't care about stats. Win the games. Can Dak improve? Absolutely. Then again, so can every QB in this league besides a certain few. In 2016 when we won 13 games, we were not putting up huge numbers. We controlled the clock. And now our defense seems better which will help out the offense. This offense has the ability to be very efficient. What we want to do is what we did on that 8minute drive to seal the Giants win. We are not going to sling it all over the field like the 8-8 Romo years.

The best Romo we saw was in 2014. It isn't about passing 50 times a game, but you need more than 6.5 yards per attempt. Romo lead the league in passing yards per attempt in 2014 and was the model of efficiency at 8.52 yards per attempt. Dak is 27th in the league in passing yards per attempt with 6.11 yards per attempt.

 

[Galian Beast]

They weren't good, but the offense sucked too. It's just Romo fans always want to put everything on the defense or other players making mistakes. It's the same story with Romo lovers, excuse after excuse after excuse. It was both the offense and the defense. You guys try to act like these games were 51-48 shootouts that Romo was falling just short.

Find me a single QB who has a higher QB rating in games lost than Tony Romo.

Don't worry, I'll wait.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Bill James, the father of baseball sabermetrics loves players like Gene Tenace and Darrell Evans who never had high batting averages but did enough other things right to become more valuable than what the typical fan thought of them.

I think Prescott is sort of that way when it comes to QB's. He's not going to be a guy who tosses 300 yards games on a regular (or even irregular basis). But you combine his rushing yards with his ability to protect the football... He can be a winning QB getting 225 passing yards a game– And he has been.

Now the question is will most of this season be the 2016/first half of 2017 Dak Prescott or the last half of 2017 Dak Prescott, which wasn't good enough.

We will see.

 

[Blackspider214]

The best Romo we saw was in 2014. It isn't about passing 50 times a game, but you need more than 6.5 yards per attempt. Romo lead the league in passing yards per attempt in 2014 and was the model of efficiency at 8.52 yards per attempt. Dak is 27th in the league in passing yards per attempt with 6.11 yards per attempt.

Romo was how far into his career before he was able to do that? People don't realize how young Dak is. He's still learning.

 

[aikemirv]

Do people want to go back to the days of when we attempted 40-50 passes with Romo and he was racking up 300-400 yards a game in losses? I don't care about stats. Win the games. Can Dak improve? Absolutely. Then again, so can every QB in this league besides a certain few. In 2016 when we won 13 games, we were not putting up huge numbers. We controlled the clock. And now our defense seems better which will help out the offense. This offense has the ability to be very efficient. What we want to do is what we did on that 8minute drive to seal the Giants win. We are not going to sling it all over the field like the 8-8 Romo years.

At some point the QB has to be a threat passing the ball.Next week Seattle keys on Dak running and Zeke has a better game. The next game Dak and Zeke get more controlled in the run game. Then Dak has to be able to put the ball down the field.

 

[Aviano90]

Find me a single QB who has a higher QB rating in games lost than Tony Romo.

Don't worry, I'll wait.

More stats. Romo has great stats. His offense still sucked when the season was on the line.

 

[cwbyfn88]

Are you on that Randy Gregory? Not a one person would say they won their teams the SB they just happened to be on them. Stop it esp when we all know the defense carried both those teams

Point proven. It's a team sport. A team can win despite the QB only having 200 yards

 

[aikemirv]

Do people want to go back to the days of when we attempted 40-50 passes with Romo and he was racking up 300-400 yards a game in losses? I don't care about stats. Win the games. Can Dak improve? Absolutely. Then again, so can every QB in this league besides a certain few. In 2016 when we won 13 games, we were not putting up huge numbers. We controlled the clock. And now our defense seems better which will help out the offense. This offense has the ability to be very efficient. What we want to do is what we did on that 8minute drive to seal the Giants win. We are not going to sling it all over the field like the 8-8 Romo years.

And yes I will gladly go back to Romo if you give me this online and defense. Did a Dallas defense ever have 6 sacks in a game that Romo played?

 

[Galian Beast]

Romo was how far into his career before he was able to do that? People don't realize how young Dak is. He's still learning.

Romo didn't have the benefit of defenses half as good as Dak had when he first became starter.

We're actually now wasting a good defense on a QB who can't pass effectively... And will not beat the Aaron Rodgers' or Tom Brady's of the NFL 4 weeks in a row.

 

[Doomsay]

the entire (short) data set would be interesting to look at. BTW, this sub 200 yd passing intelligencia also suggests that running the ball is irrelevant in the NFL, I wonder how well those teams that don’t run and throw for under 200 yds fare in the league?

 

[Galian Beast]

More stats. Romo has great stats. His offense still sucked when the season was on the line.

Yeah and for the vast majority of his career he had garbage offensive lines and garbage defense and for at least half of his career no consistent running game...

You've been asleep the last 10 years.

 

[cwbyfn88]

Defense won those Super Bowls-Qb’s didn’t. They just did not lose the game. There is a difference between winning a game and not losing it.

With this defense games like that by Dak will result in wins. Does not mean we won because of the QB. Does not mean he did not play well either!

My point wasn't to say the QB won the Superbowl. The QB was on the team that won. From all my other posts in this thread you could gather how I feel about a qb getting too much credit and too much blame in an ultimate team sport.

 

[Galian Beast]

Interesting that @AdamJT13 has disappeared...

 

[Sydla]

I have no doubt the numbers are accurate but I am interested in the criteria selection. For example, why the range of 6.2 to 6.4 ypa?

Why not just include all performances above 6.2 meeting the other criteria? Does that affect the numbers?

 

[Aviano90]

Yeah and for the vast majority of his career he had garbage offensive lines and garbage defense and for at least half of his career no consistent running game...

You've been asleep the last 10 years.

No, I know all the excuses. I also know the top 10 offense typically wasn't very good when the season was on the line. You just can't admit that so you're going to dance around it. Did you sleep through those games?

 

[Galian Beast]

I have no doubt the numbers are accurate but I am interested in the criteria selection. For example, why the range of 6.2 to 6.4 ypa?

Why not just include all performances above 6.2 meeting the other criteria? Does that affect the numbers?

Because they were specifically trying to defend Dak in the presentation of the numbers. More appropriately would have been sub 7s.

 

[Philmonroe]

Point proven. It's a team sport. A team can win despite the QB only having 200 yards

No point was proven at all. One who said it wasn't a team game? Two said they couldn't win at all despite having 200? The point was that isn't the norm for winning. My friend won the lottery for 5million about a decade ago but just because he did does that mean that's the best way to become a millionaire. We can all point out outliers but there is usually a certain way of doing things for a reason.

 

[aikemirv]

My point wasn't to say the QB won the Superbowl. The QB was on the team that won. From all my other posts in this thread you could gather how I feel about a qb getting too much credit and too much blame in an ultimate team sport.

Sorry did not read the whole thread

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I have no doubt the numbers are accurate but I am interested in the criteria selection. For example, why the range of 6.2 to 6.4 ypa?

Why not just include all performances above 6.2 meeting the other criteria? Does that affect the numbers?

The numbers are not accurate. Hell, they don’t even make any sense. Here’s a stat that is accurate: since 2005, teams are 38-3 when their QB has 5 TDS and 0 INTs. Now does that make sense? Yes it makes perfect sense... usually when a QB goes off like that the team almost overwhelmingly wins.
So how does it make sense that a dink and dunk mediocre stat line gets you an even better 26-1 stretch over the same period of time?

 

[Clove]

They weren't good, but the offense sucked too. It's just Romo fans always want to put everything on the defense or other players making mistakes. It's the same story with Romo lovers, excuse after excuse after excuse. It was both the offense and the defense. You guys try to act like these games were 51-48 shootouts that Romo was falling just short.

Don't get me started. lol