For the Ware vs Merriman debate

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joseephuss said:
Who did better in the bye week?

I'd have to comfirm this with Adam, but Merriman had 4 interveiws and 2 commercials while Ware had 4 commercials and 2 interveiws.

So, as you can plainly see they play the bye week nothing alike.
 

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nyc said:
That deep brown stuff is GOR(Y)E. Did you notice. Frank Gore is doing pretty good. Well, that was a costly fumble yesterday though... Would you like to debate Gore again? ;)

Would it make what I said in the past incorrect? I don't think so. :rolleyes:
 

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I think it's fair to compare them, but let's compare over the whole season, not just when one has a good game here and there. They had similar numbers last year, let's see what they both do over the course of this year.
 

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dboyz said:
I think it's fair to compare them, but let's compare over the whole season, not just when one has a good game here and there. They had similar numbers last year, let's see what they both do over the course of this year.

And their careers.
 

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I'll just say I felt both were very good prospects coming into the league and Dallas got the man they wanted in Ware. No regrets and no looking back for me.
 

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KD said:
Actually he did have a 3 sack game against the Colts.

But I still think Ware is a better all around linebacker at this time. I don't think Merriman can do anything better than Ware.

Actually, Merriman had 2 sacks in the Colts game last year. Two other Chargers rookies (Castillo & Olshansky) also recorded a sack each.

In Merrimans 3 sack game ... the Chargers recorded 6 more as a team for a total of 9. ... In Ware's 3 sack game, he was the only Cowboy to record a sack in the game. He also forced fumbles on each of his sacks and recorded 9 tackles on the day.
 

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The very fact that so many here feel the need to constantly debate this topic is proof that you think Merriman may just be the better player and you're afraid to accept it.

I bet the SD boards don't have "here's why Merriman is better than Ware" threads.
 

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nyc said:
For those keeping track:

Game 2 stats:
Merriman 0 tackles, 1 assist, 1 INT.
Ware: 4 tackles, 0 assist, 1 sack.

For the Season:
Merriman: 6 tackles, 1 assist, 3 sacks, 1 INT, 1 pass d, 0 FF
Ware: 8 tackles, 0 assists, 1 sack, 0 pass d, 0 FF

Even though Merriman was quite except for the INT last week, he is still dominating Ware in big plays statistics with 3 sacks, 1 int, and a pass deflection.

Merriman got most of his stats from playing Oakland, but didn't make near the impact against the Titians. The Cowboys lineup against the Titans next week. Will Ware make more of an impact against the Titans than Merriman did with an interception?

The Chargers have Ravens, Steelers, and 49ers up and the Cowboys have Titans, Eagles, and Texans up. My question is, who has better stats at the end of this 3 game stint.

I'm a huge Ware fan, but until he can prove to me he is more of an impact player in his own style of defense. I have to take Merriman.

take him WHERE??? it's not a freaking option to take him ANYWHERE and these debates are just stupid cause it's NOT gonna change a thing.

wah - i didn't get my player. wah - i will whine about it for the rest of my life - wah my player did better than the cowboys player wah.

wah.
 

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Qwickdraw said:
The very fact that so many here feel the need to constantly debate this topic is proof that you think Merriman may just be the better player and you're afraid to accept it.

I bet the SD boards don't have "here's why Merriman is better than Ware" threads.

Some people make it out to be that Merriman is not better, but much better. It is still too early in both their careers to see a huge difference in talent and production. Some people seem to think that Ware is Shante Carver compared to Merriman.

I give Merriman a slight edge over Ware at this moment. I am pleased with what Ware has done and his potential. I would have been pleased with drafting Merriman over Ware. Both guys fit the mold of what was needed when switching to the 3-4 scheme. There really is no wrong choice between the two.
 

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nyc said:
I agree 100% about him being remarkable. For him to play coverage as well as he does, still be a great pass rusher, and his improvement stopping the run alone has impressed me. This kid is going to be something special. Definitely a more complete player than Merriman.

this the same one who says they'll take merriman but now ware is more of a complete player?

i need a dizzy smiley that does nothing but spin around.
 

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Qwickdraw said:
The very fact that so many here feel the need to constantly debate this topic is proof that you think Merriman may just be the better player and you're afraid to accept it.

I bet the SD boards don't have "here's why Merriman is better than Ware" threads.
Thank you. You said it much better than I was going to answer (maybe it's a Monday thing). Some of you guys are sounding like K.C. fans who are saying that Derrick Johnson is better than Merriman.


http://mb14.scout.com/fchiefsinsiderfrm1.showMessage?topicID=15170.topic


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Qwickdraw said:
The very fact that so many here feel the need to constantly debate this topic is proof that you think Merriman may just be the better player and you're afraid to accept it.

I bet the SD boards don't have "here's why Merriman is better than Ware" threads.

They probably don't, and the obvious reason for that is that both players were available when we took Ware, with SD selecting Merriman after us. They didn't have both options available when their pick came up (without moving up further anyway), so it's more of a non-issue for them.

That said, I'm definitely in the Ware camp, both are somewhat comparable but I really think we made the right decision.
 

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bayarealightning said:
Thank you. You said it much better than I was going to answer (maybe it's a Monday thing). Some of you guys are sounding like K.C. fans who are saying that Derrick Johnson is better than Merriman.


http://mb14.scout.com/fchiefsinsiderfrm1.showMessage?topicID=15170.topic


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You agree with him, then. Bad move, considering his rep.

Does your rpesence on the board and this thread, feeling the necessity to defend Merriman vs. Ware, indicate that you may think Ware is the better player, and you're afraid to accept it?

Because that's the ridiculous logic you're agreeing with.
 
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Can anyone name one time where having Ware instead of Merriman actually cost us a football game? In reality, that's the only stat that matters.
 

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Qwickdraw said:
The very fact that so many here feel the need to constantly debate this topic is proof that you think Merriman may just be the better player and you're afraid to accept it.

I bet the SD boards don't have "here's why Merriman is better than Ware" threads.

That's because there are very few people who believe Ware is better. Outside of many Dallas fans, coaches, and NFL scouts/personnel... most media types are all over Merriman because he's flashy (he has a sack dance). Hell there have been player rankings lists where Merriman has been ranked as high as the 11th best player in the league, with Ware nowhere to be found.

SD fans don't have a reason to shout that Merriman is better, most people nationwide already say that. What most of us realize is that they're different players right now. Ware's more complete and versatile. Merriman's meaner and more in your face.
 

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nyc said:
What? You don't think Ware can get 12-15 sacks, an INTs, force fumbles, and pass deflections playing for the Cowboys?

Wow, this is a beating... :rolleyes:

Yes, I do think Ware can get double digit sacks (maybe not as many as Merriman) and still be a better impact player than he is.

What is a beating is all this "I wish we coulda..." , "I'd rather have this guy...", "look at this guys stats"...crap.

That's the beating.
 

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Watch THIS sack dance!

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jman said:
What is a beating is all this "I wish we coulda..." , "I'd rather have this guy...", "look at this guys stats"...crap.

That's the beating.

preach on brotha! i'm SO SICK AND TIRED of everyone corn-nugget out there wanting to WAH around as if it will change anything at all. We've got a player, he seems to be a good one, and the "blow by blow "who's better than who"" crap is just old. it seems every time ESPN flashes merriman that self-same corn-nugget must come in here and publically whine and wah around as if it will either change the past or make anyone but him/her self feel better about the situation and it shouldn't even do that.

we've got a good player. it's just that some feel the need to sit and moan around like old ladies at an old folks home arguing who's better between mcgeyver or magnum PI then what's the point?

how about brady. man alive we could had him!!!! 5 rounds went by if not 6 before we picked and we coulda had him man!!! let's wah'around about that now!

we need a dead horse forum so people who actually feel the need to keep the flogging going can go play there and leave the rest of us out of it.
 

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iceberg said:
how about brady. man alive we could had him!!!! 5 rounds went by if not 6 before we picked and we coulda had him man!!! let's wah'around about that now!

rumor has ti we were about to select him when the Pats did. then we called them up and congratulated them on finding the next great QB.

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