For those worried about what kind of shape Ryan will be in

[RoyTheHammer]

Uh...

Glad we haven't strayed off topic too badly.

Consider the OP.. im suprised it stayed on course past the initial post, tbh.

 

[jobberone]

Lapband surgeries don't address the root cause of obesity: LIFESTYLE

I think they do but in a different way than voluntarily changing. They force one to adopt different eating habits. I think they are a great boon to the morbidly obese. My niece has dropped over a 100 so far. The affects to her psyche are just astounding.

 

[Clove]

Surely there are some recent pics of him somewhere.

 

[erod]

Ryan is in shape.

Round is a shape.

 

[TheSport78]

I think they do but in a different way than voluntarily changing. They force one to adopt different eating habits. I think they are a great boon to the morbidly obese. My niece has dropped over a 100 so far. The affects to her psyche are just astounding.

I think it's highly individual.

Congrats on your niece having a positive mindset!

However, there are people who see it as a "cure" and a "quick fix," and don't address the causes of why they were obese in the first place (lifestyle, diet, exercise, activity level, etc).

 

[erod]

Round is a shape.

My bad, man. I posted the same tired old line - which still makes me laugh - after you did.

 

[erod]

Losing weight is simple math.

Every time you burn 3,500 calories more than you consume, you lose one pound of fat. Conversely, for every 3,500 more than you burn, you gain a pound.

It's about creating calories deficiencies of 300-800 per day.

What is almost criminal are these lose-weight-fast programs that promise 30 pounds in 30 days. That is impossible. The human body can only lose 1-2 pounds a week in actual fat; those programs want to count the initial water weight loss (which isn't real loss), and pad it with a few extra pounds that you'll give them a pass on if you lose 10 pounds of water weight.

Here's a great plan for anyone that wants to lose weight. In the morning, have an Egg McMuffin from McDonalds (300 calories) and a coffee, water, or diet soda. For lunch, go to Chick-fil-a and get the No. 7 with fruit instead of fries (340 calories) and a water/diet soda. Have a reasonable dinner of less than 900 calories and an evening snack that's 100 calories or less (yogurt, low-cal protein bar, etc). Then, walk for an hour six days a week. You won't be that hungry, and you'll start feeling better pretty quickly.

For a woman, you need to knock about 150 calories a day more off of your eating.

That is not that hard to do, and you'll lose 5-8 REAL POUNDS a month. If you don't think a pound of fat is much, go buy a pound of turkey at the deli and hold it in your hand. That's a lot of fat.

And when you lose real fat, it's easier to keep off. When you just play with your water weight, it comes and goes quickly and you get disillusioned and frustrated and end up worse off in the end than if you did nothing.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Five-star thread.

 

[iceberg]

You really need to remember that this is but a sandbox and liking or not liking someone due to posts is something the killer in Colorado would do.

No one in my family is fat either.

As for going to Disney in July, not that I have to justify anything to a nobody on a webboard, but I only holiday in the summer, that way my son doesn't miss his hockey nor school.

Plus if I am a moron, then so are about 2 million others that were in Disney/Universal when I was there, go figure.

i've never had to put in "if" in that statement.

 

[TheSport78]

Losing weight is simple math.

Every time you burn 3,500 calories more than you consume, you lose one pound of fat. Conversely, for every 3,500 more than you burn, you gain a pound.

It's about creating calories deficiencies of 300-800 per day.

What is almost criminal are these lose-weight-fast programs that promise 30 pounds in 30 days. That is impossible. The human body can only lose 1-2 pounds a week in actual fat; those programs want to count the initial water weight loss (which isn't real loss), and pad it with a few extra pounds that you'll give them a pass on if you lose 10 pounds of water weight.

Here's a great plan for anyone that wants to lose weight. In the morning, have an Egg McMuffin from McDonalds (300 calories) and a coffee, water, or diet soda. For lunch, go to Chick-fil-a and get the No. 7 with fruit instead of fries (340 calories) and a water/diet soda. Have a reasonable dinner of less than 900 calories and an evening snack that's 100 calories or less (yogurt, low-cal protein bar, etc). Then, walk for an hour six days a week. You won't be that hungry, and you'll start feeling better pretty quickly.

For a woman, you need to knock about 150 calories a day more off of your eating.

That is not that hard to do, and you'll lose 5-8 REAL POUNDS a month. If you don't think a pound of fat is much, go buy a pound of turkey at the deli and hold it in your hand. That's a lot of fat.

And when you lose real fat, it's easier to keep off. When you just play with your water weight, it comes and goes quickly and you get disillusioned and frustrated and end up worse off in the end than if you did nothing.

This is completely wrong. It's been scientifically proven that all calories are NOT created equal. I eat over 3,500 calories a day, but I get my foods from nutrient dense sources that have no artificial sugars or trans fats. Counting calories are a waste of time in my opinion. Eat the right foods, be active, exercise and the body will adjust.

Eating an Egg McMuffin doesn't do anything for you. It's filled with processed **** and it'll cause an increase in insulin resistance, and a host of other problems.

 

[Hook'em#11]

Don't care how big he gets or how much weight he has lost.

Just hope he gets this Cowboys Defense ready to play and playing with a chip on it's shoulder. Haven't had any nastiness on D since R.Williams.

 

[erod]

This is completely wrong. It's been scientifically proven that all calories are NOT created equal. I eat over 3,500 calories a day, but I get my foods from nutrient dense sources that have no artificial sugars or trans fats. Counting calories are a waste of time in my opinion. Eat the right foods, be active, exercise and the body will adjust.

Eating an Egg McMuffin doesn't do anything for you. It's filled with processed **** and it'll cause an increase in insulin resistance, and a host of other problems.

Total nonsense. It is a caloric equation entirely, unless you're 25 years old, which you probably are. Your metabolism changes dramatically as you age.

I ate 10,000 calories many a day in college and never gained an ounce. My metabolism chewed up everything I ate. It's relative.

The egg McMuffin/Chick-fil-A suggestion was for people who work and support families and need a better way to manage their weight during long, stressful days. Young part-timers with no responsibilities other than getting to the gym and the night club on time need not consider my suggestion.

When I was 25, I ate like a horse and lifted weights to look good for the girls.

Twenty years later running a company with kids and a mortgage, the equation has changed physically and realistically.

 

[TheSport78]

Total nonsense. It is a caloric equation entirely, unless you're 25 years old, which you probably are. Your metabolism changes dramatically as you age.

I ate 10,000 calories many a day in college and never gained an ounce. My metabolism chewed up everything I ate. It's relative.

The egg McMuffin/Chick-fil-A suggestion was for people who work and support families and need a better way to manage their weight during long, stressful days. Young part-timers with no responsibilities other than getting to the gym and the night club on time need not consider my suggestion.

When I was 25, I ate like a horse and lifted weights to look good for the girls.

Twenty years later running a company with kids and a mortgage, the equation has changed physically and realistically.

And this is exactly why our healthcare system is the worst, and why the obesity rate is sky high in this country, because of mindsets like this. Moving on...

 

[jobberone]

I think it's highly individual.

Congrats on your niece having a positive mindset!

However, there are people who see it as a "cure" and a "quick fix," and don't address the causes of why they were obese in the first place (lifestyle, diet, exercise, activity level, etc).

You're right. Some people try to eat around it but that's difficult. What I've seen is once they start losing weight they get more and more dedicated. But you're right, they're always people at the extremes of the Bell Curve.

 

[brickman]

My bad, man. I posted the same tired old line - which still makes me laugh - after you did.

No problem. It's so simple it makes me laugh everytime I hear it.

 

[erod]

And this is exactly why our healthcare system is the worst, and why the obesity rate is sky high in this country, because of mindsets like this. Moving on...

Learn up, buddy.

I know tons of people who live and breath the fitness religion you preach and dropped dead at 58. It's still a crapshoot no matter what.

A logical, reasonable calorie, relatively healthy diet with an hour's worth of semi-stressful activity a day will keep the body levels balanced and the doctor mostly away.

Unfortunately, that approach won't make millions in the marketplace, which is the nonsense you've swallowed hook, line, and sinker. I was a trainer in my 20s, and I know how the marketing machine works.

The multi-billion-dollar fitness industry is a crock.

 

[TheSport78]

Learn up, buddy.

I know tons of people who live and breath the fitness religion you preach and dropped dead at 58. It's still a crapshoot no matter what.

A logical, reasonable calorie, relatively healthy diet with an hour's worth of semi-stressful activity a day will keep the body levels balanced and the doctor mostly away.

Unfortunately, that approach won't make millions in the marketplace, which is the nonsense you've swallowed hook, line, and sinker. I was a trainer in my 20s, and I know how the marketing machine works.

The multi-billion-dollar fitness industry is a crock.

Preach? You're the one telling people to eat Egg McMuffins every day like you're some sort of expert? Dude, I have a 4 year degree in Exercise Science from a major university and I'll have my Masters in Public Health in 1.5 years. Please, buddy, go back to your daily life and take your McMuffins with you.

 

[jobberone]

Actually both of you are kinda sorta right. The physiology of eating is not simple. What we eat and when we eat it are important just as are the total number of calories in a general way.

There's no doubt there are roughly 3 cal/g in carbo/protein and 9 in fat. But carbos are digested more quickly and go to the liver to store starch. When it gets enough it makes it fat or some can go to making amino acids. When its depleted the body generates its own roughly 50/50 from protein and fat if you don't give the liver more glucose to make starch.

You can eat more calories in the morning and get away with it better than later in the day because of your bio rhythm and the complex interaction of hormones yada. That doesn't mean you can go crazy. Exercising will raise your baseline metabolic rate which means you can get away with eating more. Kinda. Metabolic rhythms are very variable person to person and even the same person over time. Insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome can get created and change the picture dramatically.

They've discovered many more hormones and feedback mechanisms since I went to school in the Dark Ages. I don't understand it completely at all now.

One thing is true. Eat right and exercise and you'll live longer and more healthy. BTW, mice on low calorie restriction live longer, act younger and their brain works better over time than do the fatties.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

One thing is true. Eat right and exercise and you'll live longer and more healthy.

This.

 

[Rynie]

This thread makes me feel lucky I can literally eat fast food everyday (I do), and not gain a single pound.