For those worried about what kind of shape Ryan will be in

gmoney112;4633772 said:
You spend far more money on fast food than anyone who's actually dieting seriously. A healthy diet is cheap.

And yes, by basic arithmetic then if calorie expenditure > calorie intake then you will lose weight. However, unless you're getting blood tested then you have no idea how "healthy" your diet changes are actually, and if you're eating egg mcmuffins and chik-fil-a then chances are you're damaging your lipid levels, blood pressure, cholesterol, blood sugar, insulin resistance, and digestion just for the sake of losing a few pounds. You can lose weight and actually do more damage than good, hence the advice given for maintaining a "healthy" lifestyle, and that does not involve planning your diets around fast food menu choices.
I'm not suggesting, nor do I practice, a fast-food intensive diet. I'm just pointing out that you can make small adjustments to your eating and avoid the 1,200-calorie per meal mistakes that lead to serious obesity. There are a lot of people that eat 5,000 calories a day, and they didn't even eat all that much food. Those are the folks that can benefit seriously by just making a better "bad" choice.

You can even eat pretty healthy at times. The grilled chicken sandwich at Chick-fil-a with a fruit cup instead of fries is quite healthy compared to the average lunch Americans eat. And it's only about 340 calories, and it's not damaging your blood levels.

Once serious weight loss starts to occur - 20 pounds or more - a lot of people start to reach for truly healthy options, but that's hard for a lot of people to do on Day 1.

Again, that's all I was saying. I didn't mean to attack nutritional science as an institution.
 
RoyTheHammer;4633790 said:
You may have missed the sarcasm in my post.. and the bold here is why i think its so funny that he keeps bringing it up. lol

Oh, I got your sarcasm lous and clear. Nicely done.

We have a saying among the senior staff. An MBA means you haven't done anything yet other than spend your folk's money or run up an ungodly amount of debt learning theory that you'll ever actually practice.

Grad students today expect nothing short of a director's position, six figures, and a sweet office right out of school. The sense of entitlement is astonishing, and it has a lot to do with the unemployment rate. They won't do the menial stuff we did out of school back when, at least not willingly with appreciation for the opportunity.

It's so bad, I'll hire someone with less education and a more real resume if I can. They work harder and appreciate the chance more.
 
Chocolate Lab;4633293 said:
Five-star thread.

It would get even better if I posted the pick of CCF and his family that another poster sent to me via PM... suffice it to say that when he claims nobody in his family is fat, he's 2/3 right when it comes to his immediate family-- son is a good looking lad, wife is an attractive lady, but dad...

Well, let's just say that his attacks on overweight people are quite hypocritical... that red t-shirt just draws attention to that gut, CCF...
 
Rynie;4633400 said:
This thread makes me feel lucky I can literally eat fast food everyday (I do), and not gain a single pound. :D

I used to be that way, pal... age does things to you, slows you down, then that changes...

Enjoy while you can...
 
TheSport78;4633350 said:
This is completely wrong. It's been scientifically proven that all calories are NOT created equal. I eat over 3,500 calories a day, but I get my foods from nutrient dense sources that have no artificial sugars or trans fats. Counting calories are a waste of time in my opinion. Eat the right foods, be active, exercise and the body will adjust.

Eating an Egg McMuffin doesn't do anything for you. It's filled with processed **** and it'll cause an increase in insulin resistance, and a host of other problems.

In terms of the energy required to burn them off, all calories are equal. This isn't some complex health issue, it's basic chemistry. One calorie is one calorie as a calorie is nothing more than a unit of energy. Someone who is strictly looking to lose weight need look at nothing more than calories. 1,000 calories of grain is identical to 1,000 calories of fat to someone looking to drop pounds. If you burn more than you take in on a daily basis, you will lose weight if your body is functioning correctly. Many people have hormone and/or metabolic issues that complicate the issue, however.

Now, in terms of overall health you are correct. Eating more fats and processed foods over time does have many negative health benefits, but not because of their calories being "different" but because of the properties of the foods themselves.
 
CanadianCowboysFan;4633543 said:
However, I did check to see how correct you were and discovered that while Canada is the 35th fattest country in the world (not great) it does still lag behind the USA which is the fattest.

So while we are getting bigger than we should, we do have a long way to go.

Your anti-fat rants are quite hypocritcal... turns out instead of calling you Cliff Claven, it might be more accurate if I called you Norm...

If you're gonna go off on rants about how other people look, perhaps you shouldn't put your family picture on the net, Norm...

In the end though, just cut down the portion size and all will be good.

I'll be 60 in less than two weeks, and I'm in FAR better shape than you are, hoss... there is a picture of me on this forum, you can check it out for yourself... now, do you dare post the pic of your family with you in that red T-shirt??

I won't do it to you, let's see if you have the guts to show us how you really look...

Oh wait, a second, if there's one thing you're not lacking, it's gut... :D
 
CanadianCowboysFan;4633657 said:
It really just comes down to portion size and being active. When I see people overweight using scooters because they can't walk due to their weight, I keep seeing that Wall E movie in my head. Sad part is, if they did walk just a little, they wouldn't be overweight and would no longer need the scooter.

I am not the best eater around for sure, but during the winter, I usually skate with my son 2-3 times a week or if not, then go on treadmill or something to that effect. Last night CCF Jr and I played tennis (he is starting tennis lessons in addition to his swimming and hockey).

Just moderate activity will allow you to indulge.

Post that picture, Norm, so the folks can see what a cosmic poser you are...
 
wittenacious;4633683 said:
:laugh2: ... I'll add that to the TMI file.


Had an Uncle that used to say... as a twist on the ole "apple a day" axiom...
"A dump a day keeps the doctor away."
Hope you really are doin' okay, DC... lol.

Oh, he's fine, but it's turned his blue eyes brown... :D
 
Just for my stalker Silverbear.

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WATCH THE PERSONAL ATTACKS PLEASE.
 
erod;4633819 said:
I'm not suggesting, nor do I practice, a fast-food intensive diet. I'm just pointing out that you can make small adjustments to your eating and avoid the 1,200-calorie per meal mistakes that lead to serious obesity. There are a lot of people that eat 5,000 calories a day, and they didn't even eat all that much food. Those are the folks that can benefit seriously by just making a better "bad" choice.

You can even eat pretty healthy at times. The grilled chicken sandwich at Chick-fil-a with a fruit cup instead of fries is quite healthy compared to the average lunch Americans eat. And it's only about 340 calories, and it's not damaging your blood levels.

Once serious weight loss starts to occur - 20 pounds or more - a lot of people start to reach for truly healthy options, but that's hard for a lot of people to do on Day 1.

Again, that's all I was saying. I didn't mean to attack nutritional science as an institution.

The guy going for his Masters Degree doesn't seem to recognize the fallacy of his own argument. less calories in vs more calories out = Weight Loss. You both said the same exact thing. For the majority of people in this country, the simple fact is, make better choices more times throughout the day. And, eat breakfast, which is what I took as all you were saying with the McD's reference. Oi, entitlement. I have this so you can't know what you're talking about because you don't have it (***-u-mption)!

Programs like Weight Watchers try to train you how to eat, but so many people use that point system as way to cheat and eat foods and drink beer and simply don't recognize what the end goal is... It really is sad.
 
Gibby!;4634466 said:
The guy going for his Masters Degree doesn't seem to recognize the fallacy of his own argument. less calories in vs more calories out = Weight Loss. You both said the same exact thing. For the majority of people in this country, the simple fact is, make better choices more times throughout the day. And, eat breakfast, which is what I took as all you were saying with the McD's reference. Oi, entitlement. I have this so you can't know what you're talking about because you don't have it (***-u-mption)!

Programs like Weight Watchers try to train you how to eat, but so many people use that point system as way to cheat and eat foods and drink beer and simply don't recognize what the end goal is... It really is sad.

You can't fix stupid. That's why I stopped responding in this thread. lol
 
TheSport78;4634543 said:
You can't fix stupid. That's why I stopped responding in this thread. lol
Nope, you can't fix stupid, and you can't teach rhythm or class.
 
CanadianCowboysFan;4634179 said:
Just for my stalker Silverbear.

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As a leaf fan....I must put you on ignore just because of that shirt :)

Other then that ....nice pic ....cute kid...enjoy brother....they grow way too fast....
 
Gibby!;4634466 said:
The guy going for his Masters Degree doesn't seem to recognize the fallacy of his own argument. less calories in vs more calories out = Weight Loss. You both said the same exact thing. For the majority of people in this country, the simple fact is, make better choices more times throughout the day. And, eat breakfast, which is what I took as all you were saying with the McD's reference. Oi, entitlement. I have this so you can't know what you're talking about because you don't have it (***-u-mption)!

Programs like Weight Watchers try to train you how to eat, but so many people use that point system as way to cheat and eat foods and drink beer and simply don't recognize what the end goal is... It really is sad.

And that's all I was saying. But you know college kids know everything...that is, until they get a flat tire. LOL

Very few people can "cold turkey" their way to fitness. In the end, it's really hard to eat bad foods because they are generally highly caloric, so you get steered to better foods just so you can put more food in your mouth and not feel hungry all the time. It's an evolving process.

Every day people die that are in their 90s, 80s, 70s, and 60s, and for the overwhelming majority of them, there's not a spit's difference in their eating regimens. It's still very much a lottery system.

A cardiologisit lives two houses down from me, and he told me that, more and more, his profession is coming to the conclusion that cholesterol levels are more than 95 percent genetic. He said his patients' cholesterol levels tend to be what they are regardless of what they eat, almost without exception, and that drugs are the only way to control those levels most of the time. And of course, the danger associated with cholesterol is being challenged as well; the thought now is that it isn't the primary reason arteries clog. There are other factors that come in to play.

Nowdays, I eat pretty darn healthy, but I was once the 25 year old who worked out like crazy, put down lots of protein and supplements to augment my workout program, then drank beer and ate pizza at night with the boys and never gained a pound of fat. You get a dillusional sense of fitness in those years.

That eventually caught up with me and I put on about 30 pounds in my 40s. I've since lost it, and it wasn't that hard. Just takes a little time. The key was just knocking down the calories, walking/running every day for an hour, and lifting a couple of times a week for a half hour.

I get frustrated with the "experts" who intimidate people out of starting a regimen. And of course, we live in a world now where there's unbelievably high-calorie, high-fat foods on every corner. Soda is a big part of it, too.

My egg mcmuffin suggestion just blew up here, and it dumbfounds me. It's a wheat English muffin with an egg, a piece of ham and a slice of cheese. That's hardly going to kill you. And it's only 300 calories, as opposed to most drive-through breakfasts that are easily 1,000 calories right out of the gate.

I do the granola and fruit breakfast thing, but that's hard for someone just getting started. I just offered a "gateway" breakfast to better choices later.
 
Interesting read here......

I have been one of the lucky ones.....Im about 6' and 190lbs now and would like to lose about 10. Goin on 50 soon and I had to change the way I eat.

Working construction ....pulling concrete all day....sure kept me in shape thru my 20 and 30's....when I had to change jobs because of bad knees....the weight started add on.

I just started to eat better.....I dont play much sports anymore....I dont lift weights...but I do walk alot

I suppose I took alot of "bad carbs" out of my diet.....if there is such a thing called bad carbs.....white sugar....white bread...cakes...cookies...chips...etc.

I still splurge on junk food once in awhile....just not as much as before....I also dont eat as much as before at one sitting....and that was hard...especially going to momma's house where the pasta is all homemade :)

I know its hard for alot of people.....I have friends who eat low calorie foods...exercise...etc....and it seems like they can never lose the weight they need. It may be genetics....who knows....I feel bad because I never had that problem.

But our society makes it hard to eat properly.....Some say its cheap to eat properly....but imho its so much cheaper to eat junk food. You would think our Gov't would put some kind of regulations in the crap that is in our food. The fat contend and sodium is pathetic in alot of our foods.....we now have all these frozen foods that are cheap and easy.....and its no wonder we have a weight issue in our countries...

I wish the best for all that are trying to lose weight.....Its a lifestyle change....imho....drugs...surgeries...these so called loss weight programs will do you no good. ....mostly they are money grabbers.

JMHO of course..

but I do appreciate the info here.....and best of luck to all in losing the weight they need to lose. Keep the faith...
 
Gibby!;4634466 said:
The guy going for his Masters Degree doesn't seem to recognize the fallacy of his own argument. less calories in vs more calories out = Weight Loss. You both said the same exact thing. For the majority of people in this country, the simple fact is, make better choices more times throughout the day. And, eat breakfast, which is what I took as all you were saying with the McD's reference. Oi, entitlement. I have this so you can't know what you're talking about because you don't have it (***-u-mption)!

Programs like Weight Watchers try to train you how to eat, but so many people use that point system as way to cheat and eat foods and drink beer and simply don't recognize what the end goal is... It really is sad.

breakfast doesn't help in weight loss, this is a fallacy.
 
key to weight loss is to stop eating at certain time (after 8pm). Eating before bed is one of biggest culprits for gaining weight. You can pretty much eat what you want before and after exercising. Then gradually limit calories as day goes on. Nothing after 8 pm except maybe protein bar if your trying to retain muscle.
 
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