Former NFL agent sets Dak price target to eclipse $100M in guarantees

[Corso]

Let me have a few drinks and I'll catch up to you.
Fact: I'll need a few drinks before this thread is over. Might need my Dakoder Ring to get through it.

Lol. Maybe I should wait until the right time to talk to you directly.

 

[garyo1954]

Yep, Cousins won and the Vikings didn’t lose, but the Commanders didn’t lose either. They went 7-9 in 2017 with him and 7-9 in 2018 without him. That’s not putting it on Cousins at all, it just means that things didn’t disintegrate without him and even if it did there wasn’t a really long way to fall.
Similarly they went 8-8 with Dak and no playoffs, not all on Dak by any means, but going 5-11 with a journeyman wouldn’t be some fall from grace.

Exactly what I was saying. Most new coaches want their guy at QB anyway. Newton may be out in Carolina. Wouldn't be a big surprise if he lands in Washington with Rivera if that happens.

Cowboys still have to find somebody with no Rush and no Prescott. That may be fueling the rumors the Cowboys move up in the draft for Tua. He's a different animal than Big Mac has had, but who knows?

 

[Adreme]

That's your opinion and you're welcome to it. You're taking Dak's side. I'm taking the Cowboy's side.

I can see where Dak doesn't want to lose his job.
I can see where Dak could find a new team.
I can see where Dak is hoping the Cowboys don't take that option.

But none of that makes any difference from the Cowboys side. Like Washington, if we're done with him, then it doesn't matter who we bring in.

Now you want to take the fan view and make it into another discussion.
I've seen how those go. Thanks but no thanks!

My position is to avoid being the Commanders because they are irrelevant. Any decision that likely leads to being awful for a half decade is a bad decision. The Commanders made a choice and we can clearly see the consequences of that as Wash struggles with not having a QB and having another first round bust to throw on the pile.

I just want to know if you are taking Cowboys side, what options exist that make you better off and not irrelevant for 5 years?

 

[garyo1954]

Lol. Maybe I should wait until the right time to talk to you directly.

Yeah, I thought....that is I thought...I'd spend some time compiling data to use in a NFL prediction program but I made the mistake of answering a post.

This place is the bane of mankind I swear!

 

[Corso]

Yeah, I thought....that is I thought...I'd spend some time compiling data to use in a NFL prediction program but I made the mistake of answering a post.

This place is the bane of mankind I swear!

I read that in Foghorn Leghorn's voice.

 

[glimmerman]

I was thinking 4 years and 140 million with 120 guaranteed. Nice signing bonus of maybe 40 million. But not 37.5 a year. He already said he didn’t expect Wilson money. Guess his agent changes his mind. No wonder the FO hasn’t been in touch.

 

[garyo1954]

My position is to avoid being the Commanders because they are irrelevant. Any decision that likely leads to being awful for a half decade is a bad decision. The Commanders made a choice and we can clearly see the consequences of that as Wash struggles with not having a QB and having another first round bust to throw on the pile.

I just want to know if you are taking Cowboys side, what options exist that make you better off and not irrelevant for 5 years?

It doesn't matter what options I take, you're not part of it. What don't you understand?

Me: We can do this.....
You: That's terrible.....

And on it goes. Not interested in that.

Again, you are welcome to your opinion.

 

[garyo1954]

I read that in Foghorn Leghorn's voice.

Funny....I wrote it in Foghorn Leghorn's voice!

 

[DHCBF66]

I feel like there should be a league cap installed on guarantees before they get out of control. Goff got $110 million in guarantees. Dak will go up. And imagine what Mahomes and Lamar Jackson are going to get!

Suppose one of these players has a Theismann-esque leg snap the first year of that contract? Even if you break it in half for two years, that's a huge chunk.

I think it has already gotten out of control. The players do not realize that they are making this a "rich mans game". They want more and more $$$ and the ticket prices keep going up. Wont be long before the middle class crowd wont be able to afford to go to the games....

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Who are you going to bring in? Are you going to draft someone which usually 2-3 attempts to get right (I do not joke about the 2/3 failure rate), or are you going to pay a Keenum or a MM to come on the cheap and that will not even slightly intimidate Dak? Do you throw 30 million at Brees, Brady, or Bridgewater, the former 2 being done and the latter having yet to play a full season in years? How is Washington an example of winning? They lost him for nothing and are are now nothing and stuck playing the QB carousel where they have to keep trying to draft QBs until they find 1 who is as good as the guy they let walk. Meanwhile Minnesota is a solid playoff team and will likely extend Kirk. Kirk won that and Washington very much so lost; they are now nothing and will not be anything probably for at least the next few years.

How can people look at Washington and think "That team won," because I look at them and think "Wow they are awful now," when before they actually were competitive. They were not winning, because they were awful at drafting and traded everything they had for RG3 who also bombed, but they were at least competitive.

Exactly.......what's interesting is they wanted badly to resign Cousin AFTER HIS 2nd tag but he made clear he would not entertain any offers from Skins. They then turned to Alex Smith who was actually playing good before his injury. 3-13 season landed them Haskins, who has NOT impressed them so far. Read Riveria and Doug Williams's recent comments. Bottom line their handling of Cousin will set them back 3-5 years.

Not sure fans understand teams do not toy with losing their young starting QB with "serious skin" on the wall. The serious skin is Stephen Jones's quote. There's a reason Cousin was first starting NFL to receive franchise tag twice.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Been busy this weekend. Has Dakota been offered his big contract yet?

No, but he wasn't expected too.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FT , trade, and bye bye

pull the cord Jerry use him up get another guy and let him walk..

LLLOOOLLL

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

If you franchise tag you have to pick a team Dak is willing to sign a contract for, because he has the power to just either not sign the tag or not sign an extension, and no team will trade if he wont be willing to sign an extension with them.

Also even if you pull off a trade in that scenario you are still stuck either paying 30m for a QB or drafting one and statistically getting another Mitch Trubisky and being awful for a few years.

And just think we Made Mitch look like Steve Young.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Exactly what I was saying. Most new coaches want their guy at QB anyway. Newton may be out in Carolina. Wouldn't be a big surprise if he lands in Washington with Rivera if that happens.

Cowboys still have to find somebody with no Rush and no Prescott. That may be fueling the rumors the Cowboys move up in the draft for Tua. He's a different animal than Big Mac has had, but who knows?

The whole thing was started by a Doug Gottlieb op-ed. It was more like unsolicited advice to the cowboys than rumor.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I was thinking 4 years and 140 million with 120 guaranteed. Nice signing bonus of maybe 40 million. But not 37.5 a year. He already said he didn’t expect Wilson money. Guess his agent changes his mind. No wonder the FO hasn’t been in touch.[/QUOTE

Couple things ;
Don't think they're saying this is what he's asking as much as what they this he is his value.
Also, I wonder if the NEW NUMBERS are from the expected impact of the new CBA.

 

[glimmerman]

No doubt he is anticipating the CBA and gambling money.

 

[Mobinvans]

Salaries are out of control for average QBs

let him walk

 

[GMO415]

The owners wanted a salary cap. Suck it up or eliminate it. I don't shed a fricken tear for any of them.

 

[JoeKing]

Did Peter well I guess maybe Dak will exceed 37 mil I tbought somewhere I read he was shooting for 40 mil due to new CBA and larger cap

And of course, you believe all you read.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Its insulting.....how can a man live on a mere 100M ?