From the Coach mouth: Ware is not a dominant player... wow!!!!

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Galian Beast;1101361 said:
The only players that Parcells would give praise worthy of canton would be:

Mat McBriar
Jeff Robinson

That's about right. When I first read what he said, my first reaction was that BP is trying to get him fired up to have a big game. Remember when he had his last big game? The week after Merriman got all that hype for his game against Indy... he doesn't often play with a chip on his shoulder, but he seems to have big games when one's there.
 

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ConcordCowboy;1101363 said:
Ware absolutely needs to develop some more moves besides the Speed rush and the Bull rush which I think he does way too much with very little results.

Ware can be very good to great...But he's got to get more moves.

Geez, give the guy a break already. He's played in what, 21 NFL games?

My goodness you guys are harsh critics. I have no doubt that you all would have **** all over yourself if we would have had Ware back in the Dave Campo days.
 

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Stautner;1101091 said:
This is all true - Ware is not a dominant player. Unfortuanately many Cowboy fans believe he is, despite an obvious lack of supporting evidence.

Many also believe Spears, Canty and others are dominating players as well.

The truth is that they are all good players, and may eventually reach another level, but for now too many Cowboy fans have put the cart before the horse.
its because theres a bunch of homeristic fans on here who will never be unbias and always drink the cowboys kool aid . they call you a moron or idiotic if you dont agree with them . im just glad to see other realistic people in here who can be honest and have intelligent conversation ...
 

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EMMITSWIFT;1101371 said:
its because theres a bunch of homeristic fans on here who will never be unbias and always drink the cowboys kool aid . they call you a moron or idiotic if you dont agree with them . im just glad to see other realistic people in here who can be honest and have intelligent conversation ...

Or maybe you guys are UNREALISTIC as you expect these guys to be Pro Bowl level players in their second year.
 

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EMMITSWIFT;1101371 said:
its because theres a bunch of homeristic fans on here who will never be unbias and always drink the cowboys kool aid . they call you a moron or idiotic if you dont agree with them . im just glad to see other realistic people in here who can be honest and have intelligent conversation ...

agreed
 

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Tuna Helper;1101376 said:
Or maybe you guys are UNREALISTIC as you expect these guys to be Pro Bowl level players in their second year.
IM NOT EXPECTING ANYTHING ... I JUST CALL IT LIKE I SEE IT . HES NOT A PRO BOWL PLAYER . BOTTOM LINE HES AN ABOVE AVERAGE LB . NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS . THATS AS REALISTIC AS IT GETS .
 

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EMMITSWIFT;1101371 said:
its because theres a bunch of homeristic fans on here who will never be unbias and always drink the cowboys kool aid . they call you a moron or idiotic if you dont agree with them . im just glad to see other realistic people in here who can be honest and have intelligent conversation ...

Funny thing is not one person in this thread used the word dominate, except those trying to prove he isn't.:D
 

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[QUOTEQUOTE]=AtlCB;1101094]:horse:[/


that was worth every word,,,lets do it again

=AtlCB;1101094]:horse:[/
 

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zrinkill;1101335 said:
No ...... you are a troll because you start threads to start fights ....

But hey its ok with me ...... I dont mind smacking a troll around.

To bad it seems I will have to get in line ...... you seem to be the forums "drunk prom date" at the moment.

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Have you ever noticed that trolls always call me out even when discussing something with someone else?

Freakin' incredible. It's like they need to show me up. My gosh Peplaw06 is making the guy look foolish. Deal with him, I'll stay out of it and laugh at how bad he's getting schooled...again.

JT the Brick :lmao2:
 

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Tuna Helper;1101370 said:
Geez, give the guy a break already. He's played in what, 21 NFL games?

My goodness you guys are harsh critics. I have no doubt that you all would have **** all over yourself if we would have had Ware back in the Dave Campo days.

The guy need to get more moves period. I said he can be very good to great but he needs more moves...if that's being harsh than so be it.
 

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Hostile;1101499 said:
Have you ever noticed that trolls always call me out even when discussing something with someone else?

Freakin' incredible. It's like they need to show me up. My gosh Peplaw06 is making the guy look foolish. Deal with him, I'll stay out of it and laugh at how bad he's getting schooled...again.

JT the Brick :lmao2:

They see that little "Admin" under your name and think... "ooh, if I can win a debate with this guy, maybe I can get a skin on my wall." :lmao:

Problem is they're so worried about "winning," that they don't even think about what they're saying. The more insulting and dismissive they can be, the better off they think they are.

I'm just a lowly "Senior Member." No pseudo-respect for a troll to gain by screaming at me and calling me names.

I can't even get the guy to acknowledge me... :cry3:

Oh well... I wouldn't trade places with ya Hos. I don't like having them targets on my back. Plus I woulda banned the guy long ago.:D
 

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peplaw06;1101527 said:
They see that little "Admin" under your name and think... "ooh, if I can win a debate with this guy, maybe I can get a skin on my wall." :lmao:

Problem is they're so worried about "winning," that they don't even think about what they're saying. The more insulting and dismissive they can be, the better off they think they are.

I'm just a lowly "Senior Member." No pseudo-respect for a troll to gain by screaming at me and calling me names.

I can't even get the guy to acknowledge me... :cry3:

Oh well... I wouldn't trade places with ya Hos. I don't like having them targets on my back. Plus I woulda banned the guy long ago.:D
I'm going to make your title say "Call Me Out, I'm Begging You"

:grin:

I'm just too freaking opinionated for some folks and they take it personal. I figure as long as I don't it really doesn't matter.

I learned a long time ago not to argue too much with you lawyers.

Now if I could just train myself not to argue with people who have thin skin. The problem is, they don't make me look stupid and I get such a chuckle out of their sputtering.
 

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Ware is the player we drafted and I'm glad he's a Dallas Cowboy. The kid has played almost every down since he put on the STAR and that's while Learning a new position. He has played at a level only a blind man would call mediorce.

Is he dominant, maybe not today but who knows about tomorrow, Monday Night, next week a year from now. Only time will tell.

Ware, DeMarcus.......is a Cowboy therefore I concern myself with his play not Merriman, Shawne's.....who is a Charger the last time I looked.

Good Grief!!! quit crying over spilt milk. Why don't we put this mediorce subject to rest and awake it in two or three years when most of the data is in.
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Well put CBZ40. Could'nt agree more..it's only his 2nd year.
 

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STSINAZ;1101295 said:
my whole point was merriman is dominant...some idiots on here are arguing that...make sure you understand the arguments before you speak...you make yourselves look foolish...and let's not get carried away with the label "troll posts" when they are opinions...you also make yourself look stupid...you know who you are....get a grip

He can afford to be, he only plays 75% of all defensive snaps. He only rushes he passer. Thats like being a really good accountant but you only are called on to add and subtract after all the numbers are found. Ware is asked to cover, read-n-react, spy, and rush the QB. He has a lot more responsibility that he is doing an admirable job in all areas. I am sure he would have Merriman numbers if all he had to do was rush the passer.
 

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STSINAZ;1101144 said:
finally the truth comes out! mediocrity is what he stands for right now...merriman is dominant

No, Julius Peppers is dominant with 8 sacks and 3 forced fumbles.

Merriman doesn't even lead the Chargers OLB's in sacks ... let alone tackles or passes defensed. He does not consistently beat OT's for sacks despite often lining up on the left side vs. a teams RT. He has blown a tackle that led directly to a loss. He's had more sacks vs. RB's or coming nearly untouched than anything else.

Ware last season: 8 sacks, 13.5 QB knockdowns, 20.5 QB pressures (total of 42)

Merriman last season: 10 sacks, 23.5 QB knockdowns, 10 QB pressures (total of 43)

The only thing that can be stated at this point ... is he has better stats than Ware 5 games into the 2006 season. Neither of them are "dominant" at this point.
 

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AtlCB;1101094 said:

we gotta get one where an atomic bomb drops on the horse...that :horse: does NO justice to the horse :p
 

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i couldnt get past presser. does he mean PRESSURE???:laugh2:
 

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Well, sounds to me like BP just fired up Ware.
 

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Hostile;1101533 said:
I'm going to make your title say "Call Me Out, I'm Begging You"

:grin:

I'm just too freaking opinionated for some folks and they take it personal. I figure as long as I don't it really doesn't matter.

I learned a long time ago not to argue too much with you lawyers.

Now if I could just train myself not to argue with people who have thin skin. The problem is, they don't make me look stupid and I get such a chuckle out of their sputtering.

yeah right...whatever you say madman...you are a legend in your own mind...like ron burgandy
 
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