Fuzzy Thoughts at GB 2016

[waldoputty]

Wow... just Wow. You have the trained eye that makes an overachieving QB get better. Now, please go and scout for the Cowboys, get the inside scoop to give the Cowboys 4 or 5 starters on defense this next draft. I've rewatched the game and highlights a few times now, and never keyed in on some of the points you made. It's the little things that each of these players will get better at, and your identifying them. Outstanding.

Thanks!

Fuzzy may have some professional involvement here...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Just seems like Mr Fuzzy has a biased against Dak Prescott. I'll promise you that if Romo had the same game, all he would talk about is how wonderful Romo played and how we're lucky to have him. No bother reading the other crap if he's not going to be fair with the first part.
Jason had 4 catches, Beasley had 6 catches, Williams had 4 catches, how did this happen? It happened because the balls were accurately thrown to them. You spent several lines yapping about what he didn't do, very few times talking about what HE DID DO. So I felt compelled to let the world know since you've inconspicuously left it out.

Now you're trying insults and repeating yourself I see.

Are you going to address the part about receivers having to come back to the ball and pull them off their shoetops or just repeat yourself like that isn't a direct rebuttal?

I like Dak and moving forward I like the idea of trading Romo in the offseason and going forward with Dak. I also think that Dak is going to only improve marginally until the offseason when coaches actually focus on player development.

That is all irrelevant to the fact that Dak struggled to hit intermediate routes in stride this game.

 

[Trouty]

I think he can play outside and in the slot. His ball skills are what is holding him back now but that doesn't prevent him from playing at a high level anyway.

Dak reminds me of Russell Wilson with the read option. Brady doesn't have Dak's wheels.

Brown has a high ceiling, we robbed the 2016 draft. There's no doubt Brady didn't have Dak's wheels but their decision making seems pretty similar, as it stands at this point in their careers. But Wilson, also, is a hybrid of both of these QB's, so you're point stands firm.

Thank you for the reply, Fuzzy. I have a million other questions, but so do others here, so I'll stand back and give you a breather.

Again, you are an absolutely incredible asset to this site. Thank you for taking the time to answer my Brown and Dak questions.

 

[waldoputty]

He's a Romo sniffer.

I think Fuzzy tries to be pretty analytical.
We dont always have to all agree.

I am very grateful to Fuzzy to the hours of work he puts into this...

 

[Clove]

If Romo hasn't experienced a decline, he's better now than Dak is. Fuzzy touched on this. Furthermore, trying to compare Dak to Rodgers at this point is a nonstarter. Rodgers of 2014 is *NOT* the Rodgers of 2016. Let me put it in terms of points in this last game: With 2014 Romo under center, Dallas wins that game 42-13.

How do you know? Seriously, how do you know? What you're talking about is pure speculation. You don't know what Romo would do because he's lived in ice pools for 2 years. What we do know is this. Dak Prescott, your rookie 4th round QB, went into Lambeau field and dismantled Green Bay. If that's too good for you folks, I'm sorry.

 

[Clove]

I think Fuzzy tries to be pretty analytical.
We dont always have to all agree.

I am very grateful to Fuzzy to the hours of work he puts into this...

He's another couch fan on the internet giving his opinion and I'm the same. And my opinion is, he's biased towards Romo. He's always been, so I'm here to even things out.

 

[RS12]

Church's ability to anticipate routes and disguise coverage has taken a leap forward this year. That combined with his tackling and pursuit and Church is having his best year as a pro.

Jackson appears to be resurrecting Wilcox's career. He did fail to wrap up on a second half tackle but he drove the receiver back 3 yards on the hit after shading in coverage to take a perfect angle. I cannot recall the last time he overran something and he used to do that multiple times a game. He is by far our most physical tackler and the only DB that would take Lacey head on without trying to cut.

I desperately wanted both of these guys replaced, still pretty much do, but not quite the low hanging fruit they used to be. A lot less to complain about these days.

 

[waldoputty]

Waldo!!!!

A little piece of heaven for trouty

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You left out the part about him making 1st down after 1st down. You left out the part about him scoring in like 33 seconds. You left out the part about him moving the ball down the field with ease to not only score AFTER the interception, but to put the game away TWICE. You see how that works, you mention the bad stuff, I talk about the good stuff which lead to a HUGE VICTORY.

I didn't mention only 'bad stuff' in the OP. You are going straight up fanboi so I guess in comparison you think I'm a Nancy.

He completed a high percentage but that is tempered by receivers having to come back to make the catch and him missing wide open receivers. Lets be clear here. The receivers were outstanding giving Dak easy reads and throws all game long. They added to that by demonstrating above average catch radiuses.

All three TDs were outside throws which does not contradict my issue of him being erratic on throws to the middle of the field.

As for first downs, how many 3rd and longs did he have and how many first downs were from the run? I'm looking that up now.

 

[Trouty]

He's another couch fan on the internet giving his opinion and I'm the same. And my opinion is, he's biased towards Romo. He's always been, so I'm here to even things out.

Clove, much love my brother, but there was a lot more to Fuzzy's analysis than just the Dak part. Even if you don't agree with it, I'm sure you can find other gems in there.

There's so much content, and it's all on point (your Dak disagreement notwithstanding).

With all due respect, Clove. You know how much I respect you.

But Fuzzy's Thought's are easily the most well-balanced, in-depth, and analytical take we get on this site, as per a whole game recap.

With all due respect, brudda

 

[Trouty]

A little piece of heaven for trouty

Lmao!!!! You're out of control, Waldo

You're never gonna let me live that down, are you!? Bring the heat, brother! I suppose I deserve it

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

That is hard to tell. I get anxious sure but then I recall Romo buying time and getting long completions out of this offense. The offense is designed for things to open up late in a progression.

What concerns me is he sees the rush but he doesn't always react to it as I would want. I'm thinking of Rodgers taking a step outside to make the rusher widen his path and allow his OT to recover before stepping back into the pocket or Romo faking stepping up to allow his blockers to reset. He doesn't seem to help his blockers like the elite QBs do.

Now mind you he is not worthless as he will step up and escape the pocket. He clearly sees it he just doesn't helps his blockers out like I see other QBs do.

This was a weird game for Dak. His ball placement was off, the Lucky throw showed his hesitancy to grip it and rip it. Ball security was not there. The first fumble was just a vet play by Peppers. The second one was inexplicable. I disagree with your assessment of the pick because both Wit and Dak said it was a misread of the leverage. He missed some throws he's made all year but hit on some that he hasn't thrown as well. He was much better in the RZ which I know you've criticized. Think that was somewhat schemed by Linehan.

But his pocket awareness and movement within the pocket is great and you're comparing him to two of the best ever.

 

[Clove]

Now you're trying insults and repeating yourself I see.

Are you going to address the part about receivers having to come back to the ball and pull them off their shoetops or just repeat yourself like that isn't a direct rebuttal?

I like Dak and moving forward I like the idea of trading Romo in the offseason and going forward with Dak. I also think that Dak is going to only improve marginally until the offseason when coaches actually focus on player development.

That is all irrelevant to the fact that Dak struggled to hit intermediate routes in stride this game.

Who gives a **** if they had to jump through hoola hoops to catch it, he put it where he needed to put it in order to get the 1st downs, and the touch downs. I counted one comeback and that was from Williams. If he had put that ball on the numbers, it would have been intercepted. And BTW, I've never insulted you.

The interception was bad bad bad. In my opinion, he thought Witten was going to do one thing, Witten didn't do it so even he said it was his fault. No problem. The one fumble was on him. He ran with the ball, the ball slipped out, that can't happen. The other fumble was NOT ON HIM. The end came from back side and hit it out of his hands. There were several incompletions that were off. And my opinion to all of that is, who gives a ****. Because his good plays out weighed his bad plays.

His deep ball to Lucky was perfect. You don't want an inexperienced receiver having to catch a ball over his head and create an incompletion. His second pass to Witten was perfect leading Witten out of bounds. His third pass was perfect to Butler. Touch down.

His pass in the third to Butler, perfect. Butler drops it. His passes from that point on were on point. So whatever you're pointing at has little meaning to me unless you point out all the great things he's done as well.

 

[waldoputty]

He's another couch fan on the internet giving his opinion and I'm the same. And my opinion is, he's biased towards Romo. He's always been, so I'm here to even things out.

Actually, I know Fuzzy spends a lot of timing researching Cowboys matters.
Otherwise he would not be able to come up with the information, whether it is about Jaylon Smith's nerve recovery or these reports he generates by reviewing tape etc.
I dont know his background, but he must be either retired or have some professional interest.

 

[Clove]

Actually, I know Fuzzy spends a lot of timing researching Cowboys matters.
Otherwise he would not be able to come up with the information, whether it is about Jaylon Smith's nerve recovery or these reports he generates by reviewing tape etc.
I dont know his background, but he must be either retired or have some professional interest.

His opinion is just like everyone's opinion. It's all subjective. We all have the right to disagree, and I totally disagree with his assessment of Dak. That's all I read, couldn't take anymore.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

The booze is really flowing in the Clove household tonight... he's very defensive of his little dink and dunk QB.

 

[Trouty]

This was a weird game for Dak. His ball placement was off, the Lucky throw showed his hesitancy to grip it and rip it. Ball security was not there. The first fumble was just a vet play by Peppers. The second one was inexplicable. I disagree with your assessment of the pick because both Wit and Dak said it was a misread of the leverage. He missed some throws he's made all year but hit on some that he hasn't thrown as well. He was much better in the RZ which I know you've criticized. Think that was somewhat schemed by Linehan.

But his pocket awareness and movement within the pocket is great and you're comparing him to two of the best ever.

ACF, this is why I follow you. I agree wholeheartedly with this take. He thought Witt was doing a simple out on the seem but he instead did a skinny post. Miscommunication, hence, just one of those plays.

(For what that's worth )

 

[Clove]

Clove, much love my brother, but there was a lot more to Fuzzy's analysis than just the Dak part. Even if you don't agree with it, I'm sure you can find other gems in there.

There's so much content, and it's all on point (your Dak disagreement notwithstanding).

With all due respect, Clove. You know how much I respect you.

But Fuzzy's Thought's are easily the most well-balanced, in-depth, and analytical take we get on this site, as per a whole game recap.

With all due respect, brudda

I'm sure his assessments were spot on. But I totally disagreed with his assessment on Dak because I went back and watched the game twice already. If he wants to talk about every little incomplete pass the guy makes, he's just being annoying on purpose.

 

[waldoputty]

Who gives a **** if they had to jump through hoola hoops to catch it, he put it where he needed to put it in order to get the 1st downs, and the touch downs. I counted one comeback and that was from Williams. If he had put that ball on the numbers, it would have been intercepted. And BTW, I've never insulted you.

The interception was bad bad bad. In my opinion, he thought Witten was going to do one thing, Witten didn't do it so even he said it was his fault. No problem. The one fumble was on him. He ran with the ball, the ball slipped out, that can't happen. The other fumble was NOT ON HIM. The end came from back side and hit it out of his hands. There were several incompletions that were off. And my opinion to all of that is, who gives a ****. Because his good plays out weighed his bad plays.

His deep ball to Lucky was perfect. You don't want an inexperienced receiver having to catch a ball over his head and create an incompletion. His second pass to Witten was perfect leading Witten out of bounds. His third pass was perfect to Butler. Touch down.

His pass in the third to Butler, perfect. Butler drops it. His passes from that point on were on point. So whatever you're pointing at has little meaning to me unless you point out all the great things he's done as well.

I think Game 1 was Dak's worst game. Then I think Game 2 and 6 are tied for his second worst game. I actually thought Dak was a bit over-confident or something else, spending too much time in the pocket. I dont think he was doing that previously.

 

[waldoputty]

I didn't mention only 'bad stuff' in the OP. You are going straight up fanboi so I guess in comparison you think I'm a Nancy.

He completed a high percentage but that is tempered by receivers having to come back to make the catch and him missing wide open receivers. Lets be clear here. The receivers were outstanding giving Dak easy reads and throws all game long. They added to that by demonstrating above average catch radiuses.

All three TDs were outside throws which does not contradict my issue of him being erratic on throws to the middle of the field.

As for first downs, how many 3rd and longs did he have and how many first downs were from the run? I'm looking that up now.

Fuzzy, I think Packers game push Dak's stats down including completion % as well as 3rd down conversion.