FWIW Schefter talks T.O. on Dan Patrick show this AM

ddh33;2619048 said:
Like Andy Reid made him apologize?

I wonder where TO comes out on this? I mean, the guy got booed here last year and everything. Other than losing a little money that might be hard to recoup, does he even want to be here? Couldn't he be another one of those guys who might be better off somewhere else?

Anyway, I am on record as saying emphatically that I think this team will be just fine without him. In fact, I think he needs to be released for the good of the team and the Cowboys brand.

I have a brilliant idea. Let's create a reality show called the Show Boys. Then we can take all of our attention-lovers (I'm being polite) and put them on that show. They can pretend to play football and get their attention--just like they do here. We can then go on and focus on football!
 
khiladi;2618972 said:
So Dallas would release him and not get trade value out of one of the best WRs to play the game???

There is not trade market for T.O.
 
RS12;2618941 said:
Adam Schefter repeated his oppinion that TO is released within a few weeks. Said Jets with Farve a possibility. Just repeating what was said.


Jets with Favre is a possiblity? Why?

Someone who knows something actually said that?

I dont think so.
 
Schefter is just guessing on where he goes after he's cut by Dallas...

And he's even guessing about him getting cut, but it is an educated guess.

I just hope Schefter is right about TO not being in Dallas next year.
 
If he were the player many potray him to be, this team could offer him up and get something of big value in return.

Except hes not and we wont.
 
A trade market for a 35 year old WR with a $27 million price tag and a History of disruptions?

Yeah, we might be bale to get a ham sandwich. Ham for ham. Straight across.
 
If Dallas explores trades, it will be obvious to other teams that they are doing so because they are planning to release him. Given Owen's age and history, the best they could get is maybe a late round pick or another teams cast-off.
 
Ah OK...

SO there is no trade value and Dallas will just let go of the WR that is the primary player teams defend against when playing the Cowboys for zilch?

They never even 'benched' him during the season... The owner frankly came out and said the ball needs to be thrown to him. The head coach also said it.

SO now they decide to throw him away, without even attempting to change things up, after signing a new contract...

Please...
 
for all he brings to the table.... he hasn't taken us to the promised land!

I'd rather try to get there without him!
 
I just still haven't seen evidence to where he is such a disruption that releasing him is the only alternative.

If there was a scufffle I missed, or a screaming match with coaches, situps in the driveway, or something like that, I've missed them and continue to be 'in the dark'.

But I see no reason why this team has to release him.

Even if he was 'the devil' that some claim, what's wrong with giving him an 'our way or the highway' ultimatum and cross that bridge when you come to it?

Seems like a smarter move than outright releasing your top offensive playmaker...
 
khiladi;2619101 said:
The owner frankly came out and said the ball needs to be thrown to him. The head coach also said it.
Neither one should not have publicly admitted anything. Better yet, they should have informed Mr. Owens to shut his festering gob and do the job he's getting paid to do.
 
stasheroo;2619109 said:
I just still haven't seen evidence to where he is such a disruption that releasing him is the only alternative.

If there was a scufffle I missed, or a screaming match with coaches, situps in the driveway, or something like that, I've missed them and continue to be 'in the dark'.

But I see no reason why this team has to release him.

Even if he was 'the devil' that some claim, what's wrong with giving him an 'our way or the highway' ultimatum and cross that bridge when you come to it?

Seems like a smarter move than outright releasing your top offensive playmaker...

Seriously... Coupled by the fact, the franchise QB and now, the future projected number 1 receiver, have come out and criticized Garrett, confirming everything TO has said, it would boggle my mind why they would release TO...

The amosung thing is all these Garrett homers prophesize that Jerry will only prove he has changed when he gets rid of TO.. They are being flat-out hypocritical... Nostalgia is the only 'defense' one can legitimately argue that Jason Garrett is here and it is nostalgia that made JJ take too long to actually change the structure of this organization... If Jerry has changed, the first clear sign would be to get rid of Garrett... Or hire an OC, like Dan Reeves, to make sure his golden by doesn't screw up and make Jerry look like an idiot for offering him so much money...
 
DallasEast;2619110 said:
Neither one should not have publicly admitted anything. Better yet, they should have informed Mr. Owens to shut his festering gob and do the job he's getting paid to do.

And how is that relevant to the contention?

Owens wasn't doing his job?
 
I'd think there might be an *outside* shot we could trade him. From what I saw, he's due only 2.7 million in salary this year, then it balloons to 7.5 or something next year. So someone might be willing to take him on as a one-year rental and avoid any signing bonus that would hit the cap if (when) they cut him.

I still doubt anyone would want him for anything other than a bargain basement price, though.
 
khiladi;2619114 said:
And how is that relevant to the contention?

Owens wasn't doing his job?
Owens is the number one receiver of the team. That's his job. He's neither a public relations nor sports marketing rep for the Dallas Cowboys. Nor is he the offensive and/or head coach. That makes it relevant. Unfortunately, keeping festering gobs shut has not been exclusively Owens' problem lately. He's only the one who got the ball rolling in that department.
 
khiladi;2619101 said:
Ah OK...

SO there is no trade value and Dallas will just let go of the WR that is the primary player teams defend against when playing the Cowboys for zilch?

They never even 'benched' him during the season... The owner frankly came out and said the ball needs to be thrown to him. The head coach also said it.

SO now they decide to throw him away, without even attempting to change things up, after signing a new contract...

Please...


Its two different questions.

Can the Cowboys trade him? No. No one is going to give up anything of any value for a pain in the *** on the wrong side of 35 with a huge contract.

Will the Cowboys release him? If rumors are beleived sounds like a lot of people inside and outside the organzation who have a better view of things than we do think they should. Certailnly many ex-players and coaches have said so. There is an addition by subtraction arguement to be made and lots of people who actually played football are making it.

But no, I think Jerry will stubbornly clutch on to TO and make excuse after excuse for him and wave false salary numbers around and expect that all will be forgiven with TO by the time Training Camp rolls around.. Because that's what Jerry does, wait for the fans to just 'accept it'.
 
DallasEast;2619122 said:
Owens is the number one receiver of the team. That's his job. He's neither a public relations nor sports marketing rep for the Dallas Cowboys. Nor is he the offensive and/or head coach. That makes it relevant. Unfortunately, keeping festering gobs shut has not been exclusively Owens' problem lately. He's only the one who got the ball rolling in that department.

The context of my statement was that both Jerry and Wade said the ball needs to go to TO. That is evidence that TO is a major part of the offense.

You didn't answer the question... How is keeping his mouth shut relevant to the contention?
 
wileedog;2619125 said:
Its two different questions.

Can the Cowboys trade him? No. No one is going to give up anything of any value for a pain in the *** on the wrong side of 35 with a huge contract.

Will the Cowboys release him? If rumors are beleived sounds like a lot of people inside and outside the organzation who have a better view of things than we do think they should. Certailnly many ex-players and coaches have said so. There is an addition by subtraction arguement to be made and lots of people who actually played football are making it.

But no, I think Jerry will stubbornly clutch on to TO and make excuse after excuse for him and wave false salary numbers around and expect that all will be forgiven with TO by the time Training Camp rolls around.. Because that's what Jerry does, wait for the fans to just 'accept it'.

Jerry will clutch on to TO, because TO is a great player and he thinks it helps his team win.

Which ex-players and coaches who have inside access said that TO will be released? Michael Irvin still thinks TO is an elite receiver. He has inside access to the organization. Do you think Jerry Jones would release an elite player for nothing?
 
khiladi;2619144 said:
The context of my statement was that both Jerry and Wade said the ball needs to go to TO. That is evidence that TO is a major part of the offense.

You didn't answer the question... How is keeping his mouth shut relevant to the contention?
Your question is irrelevant. Running his mouth did not cure the ills of the passing offense. Players do not improve their performance on the field through glorified "news" interviews. Totally irrelevant. Let's see how "relevant" the question is on the other foot.

How did running his mouth off relevant to YOUR contention?
 
Schefter has been wrong plenty of times and unfortunatly I think this is one of them. I don't see Jerry cutting Owens. Jerry is gonna give it 1 more year to see if him and Williams can become like Larry and Quan. But hopefully before he makes that decision his son,Reeves, and everybody else can talk him out of it.
 

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