FWIW, Shefter and Mosley on Jones deal

[The Rawhide Kid]

I really think if we trade for Jones, we arnt drafting a CB in round one, maybe not even round two.

Now they might draft a defensive back, it just might be a safety or a safety/CB tweener and not a pure CB

David

I agree. I know some people want to still draft a CB because Pac-Man might not pan out, but I just don't see Jerry taking one that early.

 

[Rampage]

I really think if we trade for Jones, we arnt drafting a CB in round one, maybe not even round two.

Now they might draft a defensive back, it just might be a safety or a safety/CB tweener and not a pure CB

David

which is why we should go get that fellow in your sig. i'm good

Edit: here's a vid shefter talking about pacman to the boys.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d807681ba

 

[The Rawhide Kid]

which is why we should go get that fellow in your sig. i'm good

Whatchu talkin 'bout, Willis?

 

[dbair1967]

which is why we should go get that fellow in your sig. i'm good

Preaching to the choir Ram

David

 

[The Rawhide Kid]

Preaching to the choir Ram

David

Keep it up though. I really like this sermon.

 

[Oh_Canada]

the character issue thing is over rated wayyy over rated .Our team is mostly made of good guys. all we have to do is cut him if he messes up . seriously i dont get what the deal is do you think hes going to influence romo whitten and canty to start hitting up the strip clubs and making it rain. your argument has no substance its just a "popular" thing to say

I think it would be kind of funny watching Witten and Romo making it rain in 'da club!!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

We're letting Newman walk, remember?

That would be a horrible move. I realize that youre being tongue in cheek.

Newman has played a total of only 5 years in the NFL and I would love to see a CB tandem of Newman, Jones, and draft pick for the next 5 years.

Corners routinely play into their 30s and seeing the minimal wear on those tires I don't see TNew being any different.

 

[The Rawhide Kid]

That would be a horrible move. I realize that youre being tongue in cheek.

Newman has played a total of only 5 years in the NFL and I would love to see a CB tandem of Newman, Jones, and draft pick for the next 5 years.

Corners routinely play into their 30s and seeing the minimal wear on those tires I don't see TNew being any different.

:clap2:

 

[theebs]

I think its funny that because your brother or whoever it was couldn't get his act together that no one else can.

I have absolutely no idea what that means. I dont even have a brother.

I think you have me confused with someone else.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Right. But if he doesn't screw up, then what do you do with the first rounder?

Groom him to take over for Henry when his contract is up.

 

[Hoofbite]

Groom him to take over for Henry when his contract is up.

Yeah, shucks....to be in such the dire situation of having multiple good CBs.

 

[BrassCowboy]

the character issue thing is over rated wayyy over rated .Our team is mostly made of good guys. all we have to do is cut him if he messes up . seriously i dont get what the deal is do you think hes going to influence romo whitten and canty to start hitting up the strip clubs and making it rain. your argument has no substance its just a "popular" thing to say

:abuseme: Who is talking about him influencing the other guys???

What I am and I believe everyone who is worried about Pacman is that he will screw up and be suspended or, like you said, be cut. If he is cut, then who replaces him. Hence the reason some say getting him should not change our draft strategy dramatically.

I think a late round draft pick is very well worth the risk, and I do think he would succeed in our system if he is going to succeed anywhere. Can never have too many CBs in today's NFL.

My opinion is like those others too. It should not change our draft strategy much. Too much risk if he ever is cut or suspended.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If the deal happens, I don't see it impacting the way the team drafts...

He's such a risk that I think it's almost like they have to draft as if they don't have him...

Or is that just my way of thinking? Opinions please.

It better not.

Jerry isn't that stupid.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

The reality? The Cowboys probably won't pick a CB in Round 1 if Jones has been signed, is nearly certain to be reinstated and hasn't lost his way in another strip club. That's the gamble, and it's real: Jones screws up, and Beetle Bailey is the third corner. It doesn't have to be that way -- the Cowboys could draft as if Jones doesn't exist -- but as Juke noted, there are problems with that scenario. I would hope the Cowboys cover themselves as much as possible by taking a couple of corners in the mid- to late-rounds. DBs are always useful on special teams, if nothing else.

Equally intriguing: Now the Cowboys have at least one premium pick (two firsts, one second) to, essentially, play with while still filling two pressing needs -- a backup RB and a WR. Do these sound like plausible scenarios?

1) Dallas stays where it is -- no trades -- and takes a RB, a WR and the player it finds most appealing at another position (NT, G, S, maybe a pass rusher)

2) Dallas trades a pick for a veteran wideout, and if the guy is desired badly enough, uses a second pick to up the ante and out-bid any competitors

3) Dallas attempts to trade up as far as possible to draft Darren McFadden

4) Dallas trades up more conservatively to draft Mendenhall or whichever WR it rates most highly

5) Dallas wants to trade up pretty aggressively but has targeted a premium player other than McFadden

The latter proposition is the most outlandish, but there nags at me a sneaking suspicion (or maybe I ate an undercooked vegetable) that Jerry Jones could have a surprise in store. Might he shock the world by trading up, then drafting a premium pass rusher? Unlikely. Still, a rotation of Ware, Gholston or Chris Long could, potentially, put waves of pressure on a QB. Keep the knives sheathed: It's just a notion.

But it's difficult to craft any scenario that allows the Cowboys to move up significantly in the draft after having used a first round pick to trade for a WR. The one obvious possibility is that the Cowboys think the second round is the value for wideouts and also are confident they can get a decent RB in Round 3. Those are tough assumptions, though, unless Jerry Jones is gambling that Pacman's return skills can put enough extra points on the board to preclude the need for a "sure thing" addition of oomph to the offense.

By adding another pass rusher, though, the Cowboys could shed Greg Ellis' contract. If, on the highly unlikely chance the trade-up target were a premium OT, the Cowboys could lift the franchise tag on Adams and create a great deal of room to pay a top wideout.

Draft run-up is so much fun.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I really think if we trade for Jones, we arnt drafting a CB in round one, maybe not even round two.

I think that would be a big mistake David. Putting all our trust in Pacman is living life on the edge. Our team is to good to do something so risky.

 

[Rampage]

I think that would be a big mistake David. Putting all our trust in Pacman is living life on the edge. Our team is to good to do something so risky.

or maybe it's to good to not take a risk?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I have absolutely no idea what that means. I dont even have a brother.

I think you have me confused with someone else.

You made some comment about how family members that have their handout always sound contrite but when they don't need anything or have F.U. money then they just go back to doing what they always do.

Sounded like it was from personal experience.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

3) Dallas attempts to trade up as far as possible to draft Darren McFadden

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

 

[Chocolate Lab]

You made some comment about how family members that have their handout always sound contrite but when they don't need anything or have F.U. money then they just go back to doing what they always do.

Sounded like it was from personal experience.

You mean this? http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2011132&postcount=103

Someone needs to cut back on the caffeine tonight... Or other substance.

 

[GhettoxCowboy]

Anyone have a spare bullet? I dont know how to work a gun either so you will to do that part also..

Thanks in advance.

Il do ti for you dont worry. for hat matter ill do it for ll the pacman haters as well, don't trip. let me know when