FWST Blog: Assistant Interviews and Ireland Updates

[khiladi]

It's not presently known whether Garrett will interview for either position. He also could be a candidate in Miami, where Fins football poobah Bill Parcells has yet to decide whether to keep coach Cam Cameron. Garrett, a first-year coordinator, was a member of Nick Saban's staff in Miami.

If this is the case, then Dallas shouldn't let Ireland go, simply because the favor that the Miami owner did Garrett isn't really a favor if they get him back. That is equivalent to an insult.

 

[khiladi]

One person within the Dolphins organization who requested anonymity said that based on conversations he has had with insiders around the league, Parcells plans to hire Ireland.

Wait a minute...

If your a person in the Dolphins organization, aren't you more of an insider than anyone else around the league? WHo are the insiders not working for the Dolphins that are more privy to the information regarding the Dolphins then those working for the Dolphins?

WHo exactly is this source within the Dolphins organization? The actual dolphin that got kidnapped in Ace Ventura?

 

[Bach]

That's just life when you're sitting at the top of the conference. Teams raid your pantry.

It's Bill tutoring Ireland while he was here and now he's taking the one guy we have to Miami.

It wouldn't be an issue if Jerry did what Bill's doing. Bill will no doubt have say in the personnel decisions, and possibly final say. But he's technically saying he's just in charge of football operations so that he can bring in someone like Ireland and give him the GM title.

If Jerry really wanted to keep Ireland, then he could give up the GM title to Ireland, all the while still having his "final say" since he's the owner and if he wants, he could call himself Pres. of Football Operations. But Jerry won't do that because having the title "GM" is apparently an ego thing, or else he doesnt deem Ireland too important, as if he believes he himself is the main cog.

Either way, we won't have or be able to keep any true quality personnel man because Jerry won't give anyone else the GM title, like Bill is doing in Miami, even though it is really just verbiage.

 

[khiladi]

It's Bill tutoring Ireland while he was here and now he's taking the one guy we have to Miami.

Ireland established his reputation within the organization before Tuna ever came. He was being groomed to be the eventual replacement of Lacewell, and his promise was already established within the organization. Not everything good within this organization was a product of Parcells. If that was the case, Parcells could hire anybody and groom him.

But considering Ireland is leaving, somebody else pointed out on this forum that Jerry may not have such an issue with it, because he has Wade here, and Dan Reeves use to rave about him as an evaluator of talent.

Maybe Wade has a projected role within this organization that extends beyond coaching. I'm sure Wade had everything to do with Jerry extending Ratliff to a long-term deal. Wade has been on Ratliff's sack the whole year.

 

[theogt]

It's Bill tutoring Ireland while he was here and now he's taking the one guy we have to Miami.

Let's get one thing straight. Ireland is not a Parcells guy. He's a Jerry Jones guy. He was hired before Parcells and raised to the VP position by Jerry at the urging of Larry Lacewell. Ireland never reported to Parcells. He always reported directly to Jerry, who had final say on all personnel decisions when Parcells was here.

Now, Jerry hired Ireland, so I see no reason why he couldn't hire someone else competent. It sucks that we lose our brightest minds when we're winning, but that's just a side effect of being the best in the conference.

It wouldn't be an issue if Jerry did what Bill's doing. Bill will no doubt have say in the personnel decisions, and possibly final say. But he's technically saying he's just in charge of football operations so that he can bring in someone like Ireland and give him the GM title.

If Jerry really wanted to keep Ireland, then he could give up the GM title to Ireland, all the while still having his "final say" since he's the owner and if he wants, he could call himself Pres. of Football Operations. But Jerry won't do that because having the title "GM" is apparently an ego thing, or else he doesnt deem Ireland too important, as if he believes he himself is the main cog.

Either way, we won't have or be able to keep any true quality personnel man because Jerry won't give anyone else the GM title, like Bill is doing in Miami, even though it is really just verbiage.

For the life of me, I can't see why Jerry would give up the GM position just to keep Ireland. It's his team. He owns it. He makes the decision. He wants to continue making the decisions. And as a result we're 13-3. Best in our conference. And he has 3 Super Bowls. It just ain't gonna happen. Nor should it.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I bet the people who are whining now are the same ones who forecast impending doom when Parcells left. How'd that work out?

Funny how Ireland was already being groomed to take over for Lacewell before Parcells got here, but now Ireland was a big bag of nothing until Parcells was able to mold him into a great scout.

Do we know that Tom Ciskowski couldn't do about as well as Ireland?

 

[Bach]

Ireland established his reputation within the organization before Tuna ever came. He was being groomed to be the eventual replacement of Lacewell, and his promise was already established within the organization. Not everything good within this organization was a product of Parcells. If that was the case, Parcells could hire anybody and groom him.But considering Ireland is leaving, somebody else pointed out on this forum that Jerry may not have such an issue with it, because he has Wade here, and Dan Reeves use to rave about him as an evaluator of talent.

The point isn't that BP hired Ireland, it's that he groomed him while he was here and liked his eye for talent. Sure he could now groom some new young personnel man, but why, when you have a finished product you already know?

 

[Boysboy]

I bet the people who are whining now are the same ones who forecast impending doom when Parcells left. How'd that work out?

Funny how Ireland was already being groomed to take over for Lacewell before Parcells got here, but now Ireland was a big bag of nothing until Parcells was able to mold him into a great scout.

Do we know that Tom Ciskowski couldn't do about as well as Ireland?

Tell that to Bach-somehow, he's still insisting the contrary.

 

[TheHerd]

it's not that simple, Ireland would have to be named the GM, and would have to have the final say, which won't happen as long as Jerry is owner and de facto GM

Does anyone believe he'll have final say in anything with Parcells in the organization? If so, I have a bridge for sale.

 

[theogt]

I bet the people who are whining now are the same ones who forecast impending doom when Parcells left. How'd that work out?

Funny how Ireland was already being groomed to take over for Lacewell before Parcells got here, but now Ireland was a big bag of nothing until Parcells was able to mold him into a great scout.

Do we know that Tom Ciskowski couldn't do about as well as Ireland?

Want to hear a coincidence? This guy Bach had about 75 posts between September through November when we went 11-1. Then bam, he has about 170 or so posts in the month of December when we got 2-2. Go through about 5 or so pages of his posts and not single one is positive.

 

[Bach]

Let's get one thing straight. Ireland is not a Parcells guy. He's a Jerry Jones guy. He was hired before Parcells and raised to the VP position by Jerry at the urging of Larry Lacewell. Ireland never reported to Parcells. He always reported directly to Jerry, who had final say on all personnel decisions when Parcells was here.

yeah. and I know Jerry had "final" say when Jimmy was here too. But most everyone knows Jimmy made the decisions. It's one thing to sign off on someone else's decisions, which is primarily what Jerry has done. It's another thing entirely to make those decisions yourself. I think we saw how that turned out in the late 90's to before BP showed up.

For the life of me, I can't see why Jerry would give up the GM position just to keep Ireland. It's his team. He owns it. He makes the decision. He wants to continue making the decisions. And as a result we're 13-3. Best in our conference. And he has 3 Super Bowls. It just ain't gonna happen. Nor should it.

For the life of me, I don't see why he wouldn't - if he really had the best interests of the organization in mind. Like I said, as the owner he could still have his "final say". But if giving the GM title to a quality personnel guy makes us better, then you are darned right he should do it and do it yesterday.

And if you think we are 13-3 due to Jerry's great "personnel" decisions the last 4-5 years, then I have some swamp land for you. Anyone with at least half a brain knows Bill along with Ireland built the majority of this team.

 

[theogt]

yeah. and I know Jerry had "final" say when Jimmy was here too. But most everyone knows Jimmy made the decisions. It's one thing to sign off on someone else's decisions, which is primarily what Jerry has done. It's another thing entirely to make those decisions yourself. I think we saw how that turned out in the late 90's to before BP showed up.

Yeah, the same Jimmy Johnson that didn't want Troy Aikman. Guess Jerry should be glad he didn't listen to him. Otherwise he might not have all those Super Bowls.

For the life of me, I don't see why he wouldn't - if he really had the best interests of the organization in mind. Like I said, as the owner he could still have his "final say". But if giving the GM title to a quality personnel guy makes us better, then you are darned right he should do it and do it yesterday.

And if you think we are 13-3 due to Jerry's great "personnel" decisions the last 4-5 years, then I have some swamp land for you. Anyone with at least half a brain knows Bill along with Ireland built the majority of this team.

Jerry's the GM. Jerry makes the decisions. He hired Wade. He hired Ireland. He hired Bill. He said who's name went on each and every draft card. You can keep denying him credit, but it's purely irrational.

 

[Boysboy]

Want to hear a coincidence? This guy Bach had about 75 posts between September through November when we went 11-1. Then bam, he has about 170 or so posts in the month of December when we got 2-2. Go through about 5 or so pages of his posts and not single one is positive.

Yeah-after the Carolina game, which was a SOLID performance, there were nonetheless dozens of "Fire Wade and Brian", "Blow this team apart", "We're one and done in the playoffs", blah, blah, blah threads.

Pt being that I always wonder if there are fake Cowboys fans(that are really Eagles and Giants fans in disguise) who are trying to spread seeds of doubt here. Yeah, now I'm starting to wonder if Phoenix-Talon and Facin' Fools HAVE dissapeared.

 

[TheCount]

Good lord you guys, let the man get a promotion won't you?

This kind of stuff happens to every successful team, we should be honored our staff is so popular these days.

We'll be fine.

 

[VietCowboy]

well, I wouldn't be worried that much if Ireland was able to stay until after the draft and sparano and garrett stays

 

[stealth]

Yeah, the same Jimmy Johnson that didn't want Troy Aikman. Guess Jerry should be glad he didn't listen to him. Otherwise he might not have all those Super Bowls.

Jimmy recruited troy out of high school, and tried to get him to transfer to miami, troy transferred to UCLA instead and Jimmy has said many times he wanted him.
I don't remember what was said at the time, but I have heard more than once in the last two years how much Jimmy gushed over troy aikman, going all the way back to high school.

 

[theogt]

Jimmy recruited troy out of high school, and tried to get him to transfer to miami, troy transferred to UCLA instead and Jimmy has said many times he wanted him.
I don't remember what was said at the time, but I have heard more than once in the last two years how much Jimmy gushed over troy aikman, going all the way back to high school.

Recruiting him out of high school and wanting to draft him #1 overall are two different situations.

 

[Woods]

So . . . . assuming Ireland leaves before the Draft . . . . what type of compensation do you guys think we get? (According to the Blog, it seems we could get some compensation.)

I'd hope for a pick either in Round 2 or Round 3. I definitely don't think a Round 3 pick is unreasonable.

 

[Ren]

No one should be allowed to talk to these guys while we're still in the playoffs, these guys need to worry about winning not where they'll work next season

 

[TVMan]

IDo we know that Tom Ciskowski couldn't do about as well as Ireland?

He deserves the opportunity.