FWST Blog: Sparano defends Jason Garrett; talks T.O.; liked Fasano trade

[EPL0c0]

60 posts up as I type this and not a single person commented on the POSITIVE assessment of Owens that Sporano gave the guy.

Either what he's saying is true or Sporano is a two-faced lowlife liar.:laugh1:

 

[5Countem5]

60 posts up as I type this and not a single person commented on the POSITIVE assessment of Owens that Sporano gave the guy.

Either what he's saying is true or Sporano is a two-faced lowlife liar.:laugh1:

Most will just say he was being tactful but in reality he hates his guts...

 

[Hostile]

60 posts up as I type this and not a single person commented on the POSITIVE assessment of Owens that Sporano gave the guy.

Either what he's saying is true or Sporano is a two-faced lowlife liar.:laugh1:

"The rest of it isn't my business." --Tony Sparano

The part of his "positive assessment" that is ignored I guess.

 

[Hoofbite]

yup those 2.

but he is pointing to the fact we gave up fasano because of bennett which is somewhat true.

we really thought tony curtis was better than fasano so we let fasano walk and then happened to be sitting there with bennett as the highest rated guy on the board.

we'll see if the phins keep those two starters long term or if like in dallas they view them as not good enough and start to find replacements.

i thinkt he trade was great for both teams.

dallas lost cap cost and jettisoned two guys who had fallen down the depth chart.

miami found 2 guys who could start for them that also knew their system better than the players they inherited. win/win.

I don't buy that. It sounded nice back when the deal went down because it made it seem like Dallas was making a smart move but it was nothing more than a little fabreez on top of a pile of poop.

I don't know what the motivation was but Dallas screwed the pooch on that deal. Thankfully the team scored a couple of players with the picks but that doesn't change the fact that it was a very poor trade.

The trade didn't make a whole lot of sense back then. Makes less now.

Good move by the Dolphins though. How they convinced Jerry it was an even trade, who knows but it was a good move for them.

 

[Ren]

Of course he sucks, Sparano was just being nice. :laugh2:

I'm not going to say Jason made no mistakes but I will continue to say I think he is a young and bright coach who is only going to get better

way to go out on a limb there

of course he'll get better, you can't get any worse then what he was last season

 

[Alexander]

Bennett is already better than Fasano, IMO.

He is a different player entirely.

And that is not the deciding factor if that was a bad trade.

It was plain and simple, a bad trade.

Smart general managers don't "throw in" starters like Akin Ayodele to sweeten a deal for a second round pick who really has not had a chance.

Fasano for a fourth round pick is simply cutting your losses. Throwing in a potential starter like Ayodele is getting bent over.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

More T.O. Talk

Because it's Thursday and we can't go one day without talking about Terrell Owens, I asked/begged Tony Sparano to talk about T.O. and the time he spent with him with the Cowboys.

Sparano wasn't dying to talk about this subject, mostly because it's usually a no-win situation these days.

But Sparano was complimentary, if brief.

"The guy was a really good pro for me," Sparano said. "From my end, he was a good pro and did eveyrthing we asked him to do. We had a heckuva a year together. That's where I am with the guy - he was a good pro, had a heck of a year. That's all I can say. The rest of it isn't my business."

Like I said, Sparano wasn't long-winded, but he didn't kill the guy.

- Mac Engel


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I bolded all the part for the THC.

Have at it boys.

 

[jterrell]

I don't buy that. It sounded nice back when the deal went down because it made it seem like Dallas was making a smart move but it was nothing more than a little fabreez on top of a pile of poop.

I don't know what the motivation was but Dallas screwed the pooch on that deal. Thankfully the team scored a couple of players with the picks but that doesn't change the fact that it was a very poor trade.

The trade didn't make a whole lot of sense back then. Makes less now.

Good move by the Dolphins though. How they convinced Jerry it was an even trade, who knows but it was a good move for them.

Not sure what part you don't buy.

The team actually started Fasano in some 2 TE sets early in 2007 but by the end of the year he wasn't playing much at all. He caught all of 14 passes on the season. Curtis only caught 3 passes but all 3 were for TDs. He was also regarded as the better blocker of the two guys.

Fasano weights about 10 pounds less and is an inch shorter than Curtis. The team just felt Fasano had limited upside where Curtis had a higher ceiling. The guys are virtually the same age and Curtis didn't have the Notre Dame experience in a pro style offense.

A year later it may seem crazy to suggest Curtis is better but it wasn't at the time of the trade.

 

[jterrell]

He is a different player entirely.

And that is not the deciding factor if that was a bad trade.

It was plain and simple, a bad trade.

Smart general managers don't "throw in" starters like Akin Ayodele to sweeten a deal for a second round pick who really has not had a chance.

Fasano for a fourth round pick is simply cutting your losses. Throwing in a potential starter like Ayodele is getting bent over.

We threw in Akin because we were going to release him.

He was judged to have lost his job and made 5 mil.
We signed Zach Thomas to upgrade at the position.

The Zach Thomas signing was probably all part of this cozy Dallas/Miami relationship btw. He made too much cash for us to get him in trade but you can bet we talked to him before he was ever released.

 

[Randy White]

I don't buy that. It sounded nice back when the deal went down because it made it seem like Dallas was making a smart move but it was nothing more than a little fabreez on top of a pile of poop. I don't know what the motivation was but Dallas screwed the pooch on that deal.

Ok... how did the Cowboys " screwed up " ?

Thankfully the team scored a couple of players with the picks but that doesn't change the fact that it was a very poor trade.

That and this:

The trade didn't make a whole lot of sense back then. Makes less now.

does not make ANY sense. The Cowboys got two very nice players for two players they did not want and the trade doesn't make any sense ?

Are you suggesting that Fassano and Ayodele would have contributed more to the Dallas Cowboys in 2008 than Tashard Choice and Orlando Scandrick ?

Good move by the Dolphins though. How they convinced Jerry it was an even trade, who knows but it was a good move for them.

It was good move for both teams. How you cannot see that is beyond any reasonable understanding, but, nevertheless it's still a good move for BOTH.

:starspin

 

[Randy White]

Smart general managers don't "throw in" starters like Akin Ayodele to sweeten a deal for a second round pick who really has not had a chance. Fasano for a fourth round pick is simply cutting your losses. Throwing in a potential starter like Ayodele is getting bent over.

Ayodele was going to get released, period. Wether you liked it or not, it was a done deal. He was NOT coming back in 2008.

So your beef is, essentially, that the Cowboys should have released him instead of including him in a trade ?

 

[SLATEmosphere]

The trade was fine..theres no debate! It worked out for both parties.

 

[I LOVE ME SOME ME!]

So someone says something reasonably good about TO and all people can talk about is Akin Ayodele and Anthony Fasano? How cute. I wonder if they would be mentioned had Sporano said TO was horrible when he was in Dallas. Cowardly

 

[burmafrd]

Some players work out better elsewhere. Fasano here got labeled somewhat unfairly and as clearly a BP pick I do not think its out of the question that some here looked for a reason to dump on him. He scored 7 TDs and averaged over 13 yds per catch. That is a very good year for any TE not expected to catch 70+ passes (of which there are about maybe 10 in the entire NFL like that) (he was 5th among all TE's last year in YPC). Pennington was not known for using his TE's a lot so I would guess Fasano's numbers were about right there. And scoring 7tds while averaging over 13 yds per catch would be quite acceptable to most teams in the NFL.

 

[jobberone]

Why is the author comparing Bennett in this trade? Didn't we pick Choice with that 4th rounder Miami gave us?

They felt they could deal Fasano knowing they were going to get Bennett. Akin was going and to trade him was the best thing the club could do cap wise. The fourth was for Fasano and Akin helped MIA personnel wise and us capwise. Bennett has the talent to become the best TE in football. There are no TEs in the league with his talents all around. He's already a better blocker than Witten and can be as good a receiver as Witten, Gates, Gonzales, and Cooley and the SF guy. Whether he does it or not depends on him, the OL, Romo and Garrett.

 

[burmafrd]

Bennet has NOT shown the work ethic needed to become a TOP TE. which is not surprising; that is usually the case with the very athletically gifted. They never have to work as hard all the way through college because they have the natural ability. Maybe he will mature and "get it". Maybe not. Time will tell but as of yet I do not see it. HE does have the natural ability to be a great one- but I really doubt he has the drive.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Good trade for both teams. Hard thing for a lot of people to say.

I was more upset about losing Fergy than Fasano or Akin.

 

[Hostile]

So someone says something reasonably good about TO and all people can talk about is Akin Ayodele and Anthony Fasano? How cute. I wonder if they would be mentioned had Sporano said TO was horrible when he was in Dallas. Cowardly

Poor, poor pitiful him.

 

[Oh_Canada]

So someone says something reasonably good about TO and all people can talk about is Akin Ayodele and Anthony Fasano? How cute. I wonder if they would be mentioned had Sporano said TO was horrible when he was in Dallas. Cowardly

Funny how that works huh?

 

[Doomsday101]

way to go out on a limb there

of course he'll get better, you can't get any worse then what he was last season

Sorry I think Garrett is a good young coach he was not perfect but I think his future is bright. If you feel otherwise that is your opinion I just do not share it.