FWST: Phillips takes high road with critics but points out he has won more than BP

[Bach]

Does Wade really think he would've had the same record in Dallas if he had taken over the back-to-back-to-back 5-11 team that Parcells inherited?

And I know full well that we got an aging Parcells near the end of his career, but he still took the pitiful team that Campo, Jerry and Lacewell had put together and churned out 3 winning seasons over the next 4 years including two playoff appearances. And I am far from one that thought Parcells was the holy grail of coaches.

This would be almost like Switzer saying he did a better job than Jimmy because he went to the NFCC game and then won a SB in his first two seasons while Jimmy went 8-24 in his first two years in Dallas. What's crazy is that there are probably some morons on here who think that's the case too. :laugh2:

 

[LandryFan]

Maybe because Parcells is regarded as one of the best coaches ever.

Like it or not, BP almost has Deity status. You can't deny that BPs resume and reputation takes a big steamy piss all over Wade's. There is no question.

Wade Phillips has nothing to compare to Parcells.

I've grown to like Wade in the past short while but he's a total nut in saying this.

BP is the Brett Favre of coaching...very overrated. Notice I said overrated as a coach, not as a personnel wizzard. Even in personnel, I think he was slightly overrated. But BP just ain't all that.

 

[Doomsday101]

I appreciate what BP did here but let’s don't act like all was peaches and cream he brought it worn out over the hill guys like Testaverdy and Eddie George many accused him of playing not to lose in most games as well as slow to put in younger players, but what BP did was help to change the direction of this team and I'm not going to forget that.

As for Wade if we were talking about almost any other coach most would be very happy with the direction of this team with 13-3 NFC East winner, 9-7 and 11-5 NFC East winner and playoff win after 13 years of nothing. Even if you don't like the man himself I don't understand the total lack of respect for the job he is doing by some. Clearly Dallas has not achieved what we would all like to see which is a championship but there is no doubt in my mind that this team is moving in that direction

 

[miamicowboy21]

Come back when you've won a Super Bowl tubby.

Until then you haven't won anything of value that Parcells hasn't.

And parcells hasn't won anything since 1990. The guys tenure here was a failure. Sure he helped upgrade the talent, but he was brought in here to win big. He failed. Parcells continues to live off of his reputation, not current accomplishments. Enough about parcells.

 

[LandryFan]

Its not that he is saying it.

It's why he is saying it.

He's clearly trying to give himself a little boost. I suppose there's nothing wrong with that but it just sounds ridiculous. It's like claiming to be the offseason champions. Means nothing because if you take even a small look beyond the surface you will see so many things that are laughable.

So many mistakes? Like what? Just curious as to what would drive you to say "**** Parcells".

No he's not. He's responding to the idiotic media (J Engel, anyone?) that think BP's crap didn't stink while he was here and that WP is a joke. Tell me you wouldn't defend yourself the same if you were in his shoes. As the writer of this article pointed out, WP isn't thumbing his nose at his critics and saying "I told you so", he' merely responding to criticism by saying that he has had more success in three years here than BP had in four. What he said is absolute truth, and not "pumping himself up".

 

[LandryFan]

Come back when you've won a Super Bowl tubby.

Until then you haven't won anything of value that Parcells hasn't.

How many SB's did BP win for Dallas?
When did BP las win a SB?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I appreciate what BP did here but let’s don't act like all was peaches and cream he brought it worn out over the hill guys like Testaverdy and Eddie George many accused him of playing not to lose in most games as well as slow to put in younger players,

You say this, but then go on to say BP he helped change the direction of the team. Maybe what I quoted you saying was his plan to change the direction of the team. Guess what? It worked.


but what BP did was help to change the direction of this team and I'm not going to forget that.

As for Wade if we were talking about almost any other coach most would be very happy with the direction of this team with 13-3 NFC East winner, 9-7 and 11-5 NFC East winner and playoff win after 13 years of nothing. Even if you don't like the man himself I don't understand the total lack of respect for the job he is doing by some. Clearly Dallas has not achieved what we would all like to see which is a championship but there is no doubt in my mind that this team is moving in that direction

I don't think there is a total lack of respect for Phillips, I just think he puts his regular season win record ahead of his post season failures. As I said before, his team was ill prepared for the two biggest games with him at the helm. Yet he pats himself on the back and makes stupid comments about a previous coach. We all get it Wade, you are a great regular season coach, not so much when it counts the most.

 

[Doomsay]

Does Wade really think he would've had the same record in Dallas if he had taken over the back-to-back-to-back 5-11 team that Parcells inherited?

And I know full well that we got an aging Parcells near the end of his career, but he still took the pitiful team that Campo, Jerry and Lacewell had put together and churned out 3 winning seasons over the next 4 years including two playoff appearances. And I am far from one that thought Parcells was the holy grail of coaches.

This would be almost like Switzer saying he did a better job than Jimmy because he went to the NFCC game and then won a SB in his first two seasons while Jimmy went 8-24 in his first two years in Dallas. What's crazy is that there are probably some morons on here who think that's the case too. :laugh2:

It's almost unbelievable that fans have this take on reality, but for Wade to parrot it as well, lets you know how clueless he is. It also hearkens back to his 13-3 talk, he is satisfied with his record here despite getting embarrassed in the last game of all 3 of his seasons in win or go home matches. Solid DC, but he'll never have success deep in the playoffs as a HC.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

How many SB's did BP win for Dallas?
When did BP las win a SB?

How many SB's has Phillips won in Dallas?
When has Phillips EVER won a SB?

 

[zrinkill]

When did BP last win a SB?

Before LT retired.

:laugh2:

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't think there is a total lack of respect for Phillips, I just think he puts his regular season win record ahead of his post season failures. As I said before, his team was ill prepared for the two biggest games with him at the helm. Yet he pats himself on the back and makes stupid comments about a previous coach. We all get it Wade, you are a great regular season coach, not so much when it counts the most.

Oh please, he is not putting the reg season ahead of the post season he is stating facts that some can't seem to deal with which is he is getting this team to play and yes he has had this team ready to play when others gave up on this season Dallas did what no one even thougth they could do then when faced with back to back games vs one of our biggest rivals again Dallas took care of business.

As for patting himself on the back well BP was never shy about blowing his own horn and the fact remains Wade did what no HC has done in Dallas for 13 years that too is a fact

 

[Doomsay]

I don't think there is a total lack of respect for Phillips, I just think he puts his regular season win record ahead of his post season failures.

Can't think of too many coaches that publicly discuss their regular season records so much while coming up so short in the playoffs. I do understand coaches on expansion teams or total rebuilds discussing regular season record improvements as they strive to get into the playoffs, but for somebody that has inherited an already rebuilt playoff team to discuss his regular season record while routinely failing in the post season is beyond comprehension and I think says something about his drive or lack thereof.

 

[burmafrd]

Morons. You later fans have no idea how PITIFUL the team was in 2002.

BP not only had to remake the whole team but the front office and scouting situation as well. By far the BEST thing he did was get rid of Lacewell. He gave Jerruh the blue print on how to look at talent. So we would get no more drafts of nothing but the garbage we got.

As a coach I think he was SUPERB in 2003. Look at what he had to work with and he won 10 games. Q at QB, Hambone at RB, etc. I think that year burned him out as a coach as he was never that good again. Yeah he made some mistakes like Rogers, but he also was the ONLY person who wanted Colombo, and he was the ONLY person who wanted to give Gurode one more chance at center. He also convinced Jerruh to keep the Hotel with his first extension before the 2003 season.

Wade never had to rebuild a team like BP did FOUR SEPARATE TIMES. And he took each one to the playoffs. And only in Dallas did he fail to win a playoff game.

Wade had a top QB, RB, TE, good O line, and a growing and getting better D when he came in. What did BP have? Prior to his first draft he had about 5 players who were really good on the WHOLE TEAM.

 

[Doomsday101]

Morons. You later fans have no idea how PITIFUL the team was in 2002.

BP not only had to remake the whole team but the front office and scouting situation as well. By far the BEST thing he did was get rid of Lacewell. He gave Jerruh the blue print on how to look at talent. So we would get no more drafts of nothing but the garbage we got.

As a coach I think he was SUPERB in 2003. Look at what he had to work with and he won 10 games. Q at QB, Hambone at RB, etc. I think that year burned him out as a coach as he was never that good again. Yeah he made some mistakes like Rogers, but he also was the ONLY person who wanted Colombo, and he was the ONLY person who wanted to give Gurode one more chance at center. He also convinced Jerruh to keep the Hotel with his first extension before the 2003 season.

Wade never had to rebuild a team like BP did FOUR SEPARATE TIMES. And he took each one to the playoffs. And only in Dallas did he fail to win a playoff game.

Wade had a top QB, RB, TE, good O line, and a growing and getting better D when he came in. What did BP have? Prior to his first draft he had about 5 players who were really good on the WHOLE TEAM.

BP did not hire the scouts and put them in place, yes he did allot of good things he did things that many did not agree with as well. As for drafting that was not BP alone it never was him alone Jerry, Scouts and BP worked together it was never BP alone.

 

[zrinkill]

What did BP have? Prior to his first draft he had about 5 players who were really good on the WHOLE TEAM.

Yet his best year was with Jerry and Campo's team.

Hmmmmm.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Oh please, he is not putting the reg season ahead of the post season he is stating facts that some can't seem to deal with which is he is getting this team to play and yes he has had this team ready to play when others gave up on this season Dallas did what no one even thougth they could do then when faced with back to back games vs one of our biggest rivals again Dallas took care of business.

As for patting himself on the back well BP was never shy about blowing his own horn and the fact remains Wade did what no HC has done in Dallas for 13 years that too is a fact

Ok, back to back wins over Philly, I agree that was great. He also has two blow outs when it counted the most. Do we just over look that fact?
People wanted to measure Parcells by SB wins in Dallas. That's fine.
Why not measure Phillips by the same standard? Not to mention he started out with a way more talented team. Fair is fair right?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Yet his best year was with Jerry and Campo's team.

Hmmmmm.

And it accomplished nothing, he knew it, knew what needed to be done and
convinced Jerry to do it. Now Phillips has a great regular season record he's so proud of.

 

[Doomsday101]

Ok, back to back wins over Philly, I agree that was great. He also has two blow outs when it counted the most. Do we just over look that fact?
People wanted to measure Parcells by SB wins in Dallas. That's fine.
Why not measure Phillips by the same standard? Not to mention he started out with a way more talented team. Fair is fair right?

Well BP had 4 years before he left us his last game vs the Seahawks was a poor game plan considering they had a depleted secondary and yet we tried to run the ball despite the fact Seattle could not stop anyone through the air. Wade will be entering his 4th this coming season so who knows. Fact is Wade has not been given much of a chance by the critics since day 1.

 

[zrinkill]

And it accomplished nothing, he knew it, knew what needed to be done and
convinced Jerry to do it. Now Phillips has a great regular season record he's so proud of.

Actually Phillips has a better post season record than Bill did with the Cowboys as well.

Bill was able to draft well BECAUSE of those 3 5-11 seasons.

Wade has not had the advantage of high draft picks to waste on players that did not work out for him.

 

[NewJCowboy]

It's amazing how people go out of their way to criticize EVERYTHING that Wade says or does. The facts are that Wade has won 34 games in his 3 years and it took Parcells 4 years to win 34 games. That's not a knock on Parcells, it just the truth. There may be legitimate reasons why it took Parcells an extra year but that still doesn't make what Wade said incorrect.