*** SPOILERS *** Game of Thrones Season 8

[KingintheNorth]

you were thinking that and i was thinking that Mellisande could have grabbed Cersai

You are not going to disrespect my girl Nathalie Emmanuel (and mother of my future kids) like that.

Melisandre =

Missandei =

 

[sulu1701]

Hmmmmmmm, interesting as I thought she came from the other side of that Walker.

Maybe it was more his body language, like somethings up, rather than where she was

 

[Runwildboys]

I am referring to a much longer re-telling of her exploits. I may be wrong but I think Arya told Sansa something very brief in nature.

Yes, it was brief at the time, but between her sparring with Brienne, and her cold demeanor when slitting Littlefinger's throat, I assume she'd explained her history to her family.

 

[Runwildboys]

You are not going to disrespect my girl Nathalie Emmanuel (and mother of my future kids) like that.

Melisandre =

Missandei =

She is a goddess, and I'm very upset that they killed her off!...Maybe not as upset as Greyworm, but still...very upset!

 

[sulu1701]

Jon will not be happy with Sansa, Of course that may be the storyline where Sansa is actually vying for the Iron Throne. Maybe she hooks up with Jon since he is not a Stark and they rule as king and queen. Sansa and Arya dont like her and dont trust her.Not sure how this is going to end but Sansa is going down a road that may give her the throne. Remember she always wanted to be there. It will suck if at the end of the day Cersai still is sitting on the Iron Throne.

One theory suggests that Sansa is becoming more like Little Finger, being that she told Tyrion about Jon, knowing that he would tell Varys, whom would set things in motion, Jon's honesty is always his undoing imo

 

[sulu1701]

I am not sure if the ships had the dragon killing crossbows on the back or not but those ships would take time to turn around, especially with the tight formation. If they did not have them on the back of them, she could have flew around the island and came up behind while screaming Dracarys.

It seemed to me like they could turn them at least 180 degrees either way

 

[Runwildboys]

One theory suggests that Sansa is becoming more like Little Finger, being that she told Tyrion about Jon, knowing that he would tell Varys, whom would set things in motion, Jon's honesty is always his undoing imo

I don't think she told Tyrion. When he said Jon wasn't really a Stark, I think he meant that he's a bass turd.

 

[KingintheNorth]

I don't think she told Tyrion. When he said Jon wasn't really a Stark, I think he meant that he's a bass turd.

She absolutely told Tyrion.

 

[Runwildboys]

She absolutely told Tyrion.

I don't remember that.

Oh wait, crap! Now I remember Tyrion and Varys talking about Jon taking the throne.

 

[Runwildboys]

It seemed to me like they could turn them at least 180 degrees either way

I was thinking that too, but then he's be shooting through his sails.

 

[FloridaRob]

I don't think she told Tyrion. When he said Jon wasn't really a Stark, I think he meant that he's a bass turd.

Dude, what show were you watching? Lol

 

[Roadtrip635]

So which Green eyes does Arya shut, Cersei or Dany? Both?
This episode felt very rushed, so much info being dumped and not much in the way of explanation or reaction being shown. We were robbed of watching Sansa and Arya's reactions and huge discussion being told exactly who Jon really is. Jon being wishy-washy didn't even tell them himself, had to have Bran tell them. After the seasons of setup for Brienne and Jamie to hook up, it felt rushed to just hit it and quit it like that. We didn't even get Jon petting/hugging Ghost goodbye before sending him North. How did Lyanna Mormont have a body to burn? After being killed by the wight giant, she was raised by the NK, they made a point of showing her eyes turn blue, shouldn't she also been shattered when he was killed?

 

[Roadtrip635]

Who would watch this?

 

[cml750]

It seemed to me like they could turn them at least 180 degrees either way

If she swung far enough around and came at them from the rear they would have to shoot them through the sails.

 

[KingintheNorth]

How did Lyanna Mormont have a body to burn? After being killed by the wight giant, she was raised by the NK, they made a point of showing her eyes turn blue, shouldn't she also been shattered when he was killed?

I thought the things he killed dropped to the ground and the things he created shattered ?


EDIT... but the Giant she killed did seem to shatter. Maybe because she used dragonglass?

 

[KingintheNorth]

Who would watch this?

It has more than the GOT prequel that has nothing to do with the families we all know and love/hate.

 

[sulu1701]

I was thinking that too, but then he's be shooting through his sails.

Good point

 

[sulu1701]

If she swung far enough around and came at them from the rear they would have to shoot them through the sails.

Maybe that's her plan for episode 5

 

[robbieruff]

The writers aren't stupid they must know just how silly some of these scenes actually are. The aforementioned Iron Fleet scorpion attack being one of them.

So they really have to sit around around a meeting table and say that it is better to write for drama then it is for realism, at least this season.

The scene with Dany's entire retinue no more than what a 1000 yards from Kings Landing walls was, to me, absurd. I said to my wife that when the gates opened up instead of Cersi's hand coming out negotiate, it should have been 10,000 Golden Company cavalry charging straight at the pitiful little group just prior to an onslaught of giant spears aimed directly at the Dragon Queens head.

Boom , battle of Kings Landing over!

And then when they panned outwards with the camera, there was the last Dragon sitting in the background easily within range of the castles 'artillery', just hanging out.. <sigh..>

Well, it's obvious they aren't writing the show for me specifically, but for a much larger group of people and i understand this, but i believe the huge popularity of the series (and i'm a big fan) has led to some very sloppy drama over realism moments that exceed the high standards the show set for itself through the first 6 seasons or so.

Couldn't agree more with your take...from a military tactic standpoint, well, there just aren't any. I mean, things get dumber and dumber with every battle plan (or lack thereof) and it seems like the only decent field general from the north was Rob Stark (RIP), who was a lousy politician. In addition to your observations, I had a few of my own:

1) How in the world, with that kind of air superiority and recon ability (including Bran's flock of ravens, which had been CONTINUOUSLY tracking the army of the dead), could they not send some scouts ahead to get an early detailed reports on the situation in the south (e.g., ship location, troop counts, armaments, etc)? I mean, that was a no brainer.

2) How do they just drop anchor and basically park the fleet, knowing there's another armada roaming the seas, adept at ambush, that knows they're in route...see point #1...with a sweep of an area that they left undefended and make sure to get the all clear. Friggin' Dany (whom the show writers have now turned into an idiot) is out there joy riding knowing that Cersei and her army has already developed "anti-aircraft" capability.

3) How is Jaime, Varys (little birds), Gendrey (blacksmith) and anyone else who has come from KL been completely unaware of the mass production efforts to make literally dozens/hundreds of the dragon-killing cross-bows??? I mean, seriously...how could something that obvious be missed by their intelligence?! How does Bran not see it???

4) And while this point pertains to the previous episode...how do you charge your most lethal fighting force (Dothraki) head on in open field against an army of dead at least 3-4 times their number without any special weapons?! I mean, the curved sabers they had were not dragon glass and wouldn't do anything until the red priestess blazed them up...but, seriously, how does Jon not see the same thing come into play against the NK as he did with Battle of *******s? Let the larger army charge and then light it up with arrows and fire when they're in range. Given what happened in his previous experience (*******s and when facing off with NK in earlier encounters), it made no sense that Jon would advocate for a charge by his forces directly into the undead army.

I get that the show is sacrificing certain things to create/contrive drama but this season is taking the show from the sublime to the ridiculous. I am going to stay the course as I have invested so much into it/the characters, but I fear I am going to feel same way I felt with Sopranos ending. Right now, our intelligence is being insulted.

 

[robbieruff]

She is a goddess, and I'm very upset that they killed her off!...Maybe not as upset as Greyworm, but still...very upset!

Yeah...tough loss on multiple levels. Was afraid when Mountain began taking steps towards her, he was going to use a much more gruesome method of execution. Sort of thankful it was a beheading and not something worse...like Martel.