Garrett 13 in HC Power Rankings

[Doomsday101]

LOL.........Here comes the cavalry again. Too bad your hero only got to 13. Must be a hard for you.

Yah, he has been real consistent. 8-8, 8-8, 8-8. Talk about low standard consistency.

But wait...............11-5, 4-12, 13-3? Where is the consistency in that? One again your laughable comments on Garrett are as hollow as your love for him.

And if you really want to admit something, admit that the only reason team isnt 8-8 right now is because we drafted Dak in the 4th round and struck gold. Which to admit something else, had little if anything to do with Jason Garrett.

These polls much like power rankings are completely meaningless. These are opinion polls. As for Dallas having success because of Dak? sure and Zeke and the OL and a number of other players that Garrett is responsible for. If the team fails it will fall on Garrett he is the HC by the same token if this team has success it will reflect on the job Garrett is doing in Dallas. I have no problem placing any blame on Garrett but seem there are some who will cut off their own nose to spite their face before they give Garrett any credit.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

rankers had dyslexia. 31 would be about right.

 

[CowboyRoy]

These polls much like power rankings are completely meaningless. These are opinion polls. As for Dallas having success because of Dak? sure and Zeke and the OL and a number of other players that Garrett is responsible for. If the team fails it will fall on Garrett he is the HC by the same token if this team has success it will reflect on the job Garrett is doing in Dallas. I have no problem placing any blame on Garrett but seem there are some who will cut off their own nose to spite their face before they give Garrett any credit.

I judge Garrett by the job he does. Plain and simple. If one looks at record alone then they are just being lazy. I thought last year was Garretts best year. Im sure he was full on in making sure Dak remained the QB and Romo remained on the bench. And he HAD to have some input into changing the offense to suit Dak. Although no doubt most of that was on Linehan actually doing it.

But we saw full well that Garrett is still clearly one of the worst in the NFL at clock management and crunch time coaching. Still making novice blunders and panicking like he did in the Greenbay game. Much of that loss can be on his shoulders. Team came out flat again and went away from the run game in key situations and early in the game when the lead got built up. Team was ill prepared and game plan was horrid. Those are all on Garrett. Garrett still has yet to prove that he can out coach anyone or out game plan when it matters most in the playoffs.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Not at all. The Cowboys are most definitely legit contenders. We were in 2014 and 2016, too.

Garrett doesnt handle personnel here for Dallas. He doesnt roster build. Until you recognize that basic fact your opinion on Garrett remains lost in space.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I didn't and I dont know who did.
The main message by all this is Garrett isn't a bad coach as many Cowboy fans? suggests he is.

LOL.........just the opposite. The message is that despite coach of the year honors, people actually realize that Garrett isnt all that and more closer to middle of the pack.

 

[CowboyRoy]

So Garrett would just miss the playoffs if there were a game where they played out who was the best coach, not that they'd ever play a game like that.

Any low standard Cowboys fan that wants the #13 ranked coach in the NFL should just go hide under a rock.

How can you expect to have a SB, #1 ranked team in the world and be satisfied with #13 as a coach? I want the best coach in the NFL to coach my contender. Not some poser puppet like Garrett.

 

[Sydla]

You mean like 2 of the last 3 years?

You mean the two teams that got bounced before even making the NFC Title game both years despite one year being the #1 seed?

You mean the team that has a 1-2 playoff record in 7 years?

That's not contending. Further, the notion that Jason Garrett has built these teams is laughable too.

 

[Sydla]

I didn't and I dont know who did.
The main message by all this is Garrett isn't a bad coach as many Cowboy fans? suggests he is.

Never said he was a bad coach.

Said he's an average coach and ranked in the 11-15 range is just about right.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No it is not. If you cant see this that's your own limitations.

So why cant Garrett make it past the 2nd round with a contender? And FYI......he doesnt roster build. McClay and the Jones does that.

 

[Sydla]

No it is not. If you cant see this that's your own limitations.

Yes it is. Just making the playoffs doesn't mean one is a legit contender (And let's note Garrett has only two play off appearances in 7 years).

Have a couple of winning seasons in a row. Win a few more playoff games. Win the division a couple of times in a row. Then we can talk about having a legit contender.

As I have said many times before, maybe Garrett is a great coach but the results to date have not indicated it. So he needs to start producing now. 7 years is more than enough time to find yourself and your franchise. If Garrett is as good as you guys claim, he should start producing in the postseason now.

 

[Sydla]

McCarthy has had the supposed "best" QB this past decade but has only managed to make it past the NFCC once. They won it...great, but having the Lord King QB for 12 years (10 years as starter) and one trip to the Super Bowl? That's on McCarthy. They've gotten continual trips to the playoffs due to their ****ty division yet keep laying eggs when it's time to take the next step. That 2014 NFCC game against Seattle was a perfect example of it. It was theirs for the taking but Fatty-Mac continually pussed-out in the redzone early and throughout the game. McCarthy is as fortunate as Tomlin in that they both have QB's that take control of the game and pick up the slack ofe the coaching staff. Without Rodgers and Roethlisberger, both of those coaches would've been out on their ***.

LOL.

This is just stupid.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Never said he was a bad coach.

Said he's an average coach and ranked in the 11-15 range is just about right.

After 8 years or blundering and learning on the job Garrett has become an average coach at best. But personally, I would even put him in the top half at all. And I would take just about any head coach over Garrett.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Yes it is. Just making the playoffs doesn't mean one is a legit contender (And let's note Garrett has only two play off appearances in 7 years).

Have a couple of winning seasons in a row. Win a few more playoff games. Win the division a couple of times in a row.

Then we can talk about having a legit contender.

We do have a legit contender. As long as Dak stays upright. But Garrett doenst roster build. The Cowboys have underachieved in the playoffs under Garrett both times in the last 3 years.

 

[Doomsday101]

I judge Garrett by the job he does. Plain and simple. If one looks at record alone then they are just being lazy. I thought last year was Garretts best year. Im sure he was full on in making sure Dak remained the QB and Romo remained on the bench. And he HAD to have some input into changing the offense to suit Dak. Although no doubt most of that was on Linehan actually doing it.

But we saw full well that Garrett is still clearly one of the worst in the NFL at clock management and crunch time coaching. Still making novice blunders and panicking like he did in the Greenbay game. Much of that loss can be on his shoulders. Team came out flat again and went away from the run game in key situations and early in the game when the lead got built up. Team was ill prepared and game plan was horrid. Those are all on Garrett. Garrett still has yet to prove that he can out coach anyone or out game plan when it matters most in the playoffs.

Panicked in the GB game, that is a joke. Cowboys did have some penalties that put them behind the chains they had to overcome and put them in situation where they were not going to run the ball as much that is not panic that is smart. Falling behind in the game of course Dallas was going to go to the pass a bit more had they just ran falling behind 3 score that would be stupid and many here would talk about not adjusting to the situation yet Dallas did and put themselves right back into the game. His clock management in the game please explain? if you are referring to not running the clock out and then try the 50 plus FG that in my view would be playing not to lose but with excellent field position and a TO in their back pocket the Cowboys continued to try and move the ball for the go ahead TD when they could not do so they kicked the tying FG.

 

[Doomsday101]

We do have a legit contender. As long as Dak stays upright. But Garrett doenst roster build. The Cowboys have underachieved in the playoffs under Garrett both times in the last 3 years.

So Garrett has nothing to do with it unless they lose the game then it is on him. LOL you crack me up it goes right back to blaming when things do not go right but if they win Garrett had nothing to do with it? Yeah only in your mind.

 

[Sydla]

So Garrett has nothing to do with it unless they lose the game then it is on him. LOL you crack me up it goes right back to blaming when things do not go right but if they win Garrett had nothing to do with it? Yeah only in your mind.

He is but one voice in the process here. But you constantly see things like "Garrett has built this" as if he's the guy that is the driving force behind this roster. That would be an exaggeration for sure.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Yes it is. Just making the playoffs doesn't mean one is a legit contender (And let's note Garrett has only two play off appearances in 7 years).

Have a couple of winning seasons in a row. Win a few more playoff games. Win the division a couple of times in a row. Then we can talk about having a legit contender.

As I have said many times before, maybe Garrett is a great coach but the results to date have not indicated it. So he needs to start producing now. 7 years is more than enough time to find yourself and your franchise. If Garrett is as good as you guys claim, he should start producing in the postseason now.

The process takes time. lol

 

[Idgit]

He is but one voice in the process here. But you constantly see things like "Garrett has built this" as if he's the guy that is the driving force behind this roster. That would be an exaggeration for sure.

He's one voice in the selection process. But plays the lead role in player development.

They changed the way scouts and coaches were organized when Garrett first got here, jiggled the scouting department significantly his first couple of years, and that drafting improved dramatically from what it had been under his predecessor. You'd have to be blinded by an agenda or stupid to believe that was all coincidence.

Head coaches get credit when teams develop better player and win more games. That's the way it works.

 

[jazzcat22]

Not a knock on JG at all, but I was surprised he was in the top 15, as these lists are always biased in some form. As well, extremely subjective from those compiling these, as well as those reading them.
I will take that he is where they have him. He needs to win in the playoffs to move up.

also not reading through all the mega posts........just wanted to comment....

 

[Doomsday101]

He is but one voice in the process here. But you constantly see things like "Garrett has built this" as if he's the guy that is the driving force behind this roster. That would be an exaggeration for sure.

I don't think Jason or any HC is doing it alone but the HC is the man who will take the heat for losing and yes the credit for winning. Much like QB get to much blame for loses and too much credit for winning. There are a lot of people responsible for a teams success from organization, assistant coaches, OC and DC, special teams and of course the players themselves. I know one thing people will poke fun at Garrett about the message he is sending to this team but listen to the players they parrot that message of taking it one game at a time of putting wins and loses behind them and getting focused on the next challenge ahead of them. I think Jason keeps this team on an even keel win or lose.

As I have mention I have no issue of Garrett catching hell when this team plays poorly, my issue with some fans is those who choose to only place blame yet will not give just credit