Garrett Addresses Clock Management On Final Scoring Drive vs. Packers

[Stash]

I'm not justifying that play call , I'm just not blaming the loss on it.

It's nickpicking . We scored the potential game winning TD which was the objective and consumed as much time off the clock as we could.

No, did not "consume as much time off the clock as they could".

That's incorrect.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

He is but you can't say that here.....guys think Garrett is the worst coach in history.

One of the worst coach's in Cowboy history.

 

[Sydla]

Exactly. Obviously what happened wasn't ideal but you don't leave points on the board. Too many other variables (ie penalties, fumbles, getting stuffed, etc) could lose the game.

Who is saying anything about leaving points off the board?

Again, we are talking about a low percentage fade pass here on a 2nd and 2. When a coach makes a call, there are many variables that go into the decision........ down and distance, defensive alignment, time, etc. Basically churn all that data and pick a play that you think will work.

In this case, you have a situation where you were clearly running a ton of clock and calling plays to run a ton of clock because you feared giving Rodgers the ball. The entire drive and play calling was based on that premise. Then, you get a 2nd and 2 and somehow, the data you are churning leads you to believe that the best possibly play there is one of the lowest percentage plays in football, especially in the passing game.

When they were churning the data, the coaching staff thought that at that point in the game, given the circumstances, that a RPO that allowed their young QB to opt into a fade pass was a sound decision.

It makes little sense. And further, like many Garrett critical game decisions, it didn't work. Imagine that...... a low percentage pass with a higher than average chance of incompletion falls incomplete giving the Packers what they need in that situation - a stopped clock.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

It was Linehan's play call. Garrett isn't going to publicly throw his OC under the bus by saying the play call was a mistake, even if he thinks it was. (My guess is that, like most of us, he thinks it was.)

 

[aria]

Who is saying anything about leaving points off the board?

Again, we are talking about a low percentage fade pass here on a 2nd and 2. When a coach makes a call, there are many variables that go into the decision........ down and distance, defensive alignment, time, etc. Basically churn all that data and pick a play that you think will work.

In this case, you have a situation where you were clearly running a ton of clock and calling plays to run a ton of clock because you feared giving Rodgers the ball. The entire drive and play calling was based on that premise. Then, you get a 2nd and 2 and somehow, the data you are churning leads you to believe that the best possibly play there is one of the lowest percentage plays in football, especially in the passing game.

When they were churning the data, the coaching staff thought that at that point in the game, given the circumstances, that a RPO that allowed their young QB to opt into a fade pass was a sound decision.

It makes little sense. And further, like many Garrett critical game decisions, it didn't work. Imagine that...... a low percentage pass with a higher than average chance of incompletion falls incomplete giving the Packers what they need in that situation - a stopped clock.

Again, 2nd and 2 with Zeke is a high probability first down if not TD. If Zeke scores is that JG fault as well?

What exactly would you have preferred?

 

[Sydla]

He is but you can't say that here.....guys think Garrett is the worst coach in history.

He's not close to the worst. He's not close to the best either. He's probably in the jumbled middle, meaning he's unlikely to ever be good enough to take Dallas to where we all want the team to be.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

The Cowboys had to grind out yards just to get in position for Prescott’s touchdown run. In Garrett’s mind, they weren’t going to burn time off the clock at the expense of scoring opportunities solely on the assumption that they would eventually reach the end zone.

This.

The assumption that once we got to 2nd and 1 in the red zone that a touchdown was our birthright is incredibly flawed.

 

[Sydla]

They all work in tandem yet Garrett is the only one getting blame lol.....despite us not knowing of Dak audibled out of a run or if it was Linehans call.....

He's the head coach. It's his responsibility if something on the offense is failing or the defense.

I mean shoot, why even have Garrett employed if we are just going to give him cover for every bad decision blaming the coordinator or players instead?

 

[Sydla]

Again, 2nd and 2 with Zeke is a high probability first down if not TD. If Zeke scores is that JG fault as well?

What exactly would you have preferred?

No, he's not at fault.

Let's note that both running and throwing both have a terrible outcome - fumble or interception. And both have a great outcome - score a TD.

But taking those outcomes out of the equation, if you run the ball, worst case is you get stuffed but the CLOCK STILL RUNS. Worst case on a low percentage pass? You stop the clock and give the Packers what they want and need - clock stoppage without having to use their last time out.

My preference would have been to run there. If he scores, that you know, that's just a bit of bad luck there. But when you call a silly low percentage pass play and it falls incomplete, it's not bad luck. It's just dumb decision making at a critical time of the game.

 

[Sydla]

So ultimately it's Dak faults then lol....you blame the coaches for giving Dak options? A bit unfair. For the record, I don't blame any of them. I blame solely Maranelli. Im not scapegoating the offensive line or Garrett in favor of Maranelli anymore.

LOL.

Yes, the coaches failed in giving their young QB a play that allows him to opt into a fade pattern.

My god, the lengths you will go to in order to not have to question the coaching staff.

 

[Sydla]

Don't know why we need a head coach. It's never his fault. Everybody else takes the blame.

Exactly. Failure is often just on the coordinator or players.

But when we win, these same people demand that fans give Garrett his just due.

In other words, they want to have it both ways....... praise for Garrett when we win, total insulation from criticism when we lose.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

No, he's not at fault.

Let's note that both running and throwing both have a terrible outcome - fumble or interception. And both have a great outcome - score a TD.

But taking those outcomes out of the equation, if you run the ball, worst case is you get stuffed but the CLOCK STILL RUNS. Worst case on a low percentage pass? You stop the clock and give the Packers what they want and need - clock stoppage without having to use their last time out.

My preference would have been to run there. If he scores, that you know, that's just a bit of bad luck there. But when you call a silly low percentage pass play and it falls incomplete, it's not bad luck. It's just dumb decision making at a critical time of the game.

The clock running when you're down towards a minute left in the game isn't exactly ideal.

I swear people forget that we needed a touchdown.

 

[aria]

He's the head coach. It's his responsibility if something on the offense is failing or the defense.

I mean shoot, why even have Garrett employed if we are just going to give him cover for every bad decision blaming the coordinator or players instead?

Sometimes it doesn't matter who the coach is. He has put us in position to win several times and the players have blown it. He can't control Twill or Dez dropping passes on perfectly called plays. He can't control the fact that the "GM" and front office got rid of our leading tackler and entire secondary and replaced them with a bunch of rookies. If people want to point fingers, look at Jerry.

It wasn't but a few months ago everyone was ecstatic about letting our entire secondary walk. I said be careful what you wish for. I'm not saying they would have been a shut down secondary but theu would have been better than what's out there now IMO, especially Church.

 

[waving monkey]

He's the head coach. It's his responsibility if something on the offense is failing or the defense.

I mean shoot, why even have Garrett employed if we are just going to give him cover for every bad decision blaming the coordinator or players instead?

you could just go buy a pinata if it would make you feel better

 

[Sydla]

The clock running when you're down towards a minute left in the game isn't exactly ideal.

I swear people forget that we needed a touchdown.

No one forgets that we needed a TD. The problem is the coaching staff picked the dumbest of all plays to try to get that TD. That pass play was the play that had the most unfavorable outcomes for the Cowboys. Largely because it's a pass play that historically is one of the least successful in football.

PS - You overstate the running clock down as being a big issue. We had two timeouts ourselves that allowed us to manipulate the clock to our benefit. So it's not like if we had run the ball we had to consistently rush to get plays off because we couldn't stop the clock ourselves.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

The clock running when you're down towards a minute left in the game isn't exactly ideal.

I swear people forget that we needed a touchdown.

We needed a TD and as less time on the clock as possible. I don't know. 25 to 20 seconds left and no time outs is better than 1:20 left and one TO. Game was over as soon as we scored. No way was that defense going to stop AR with that much time left.

 

[Sydla]

you could just go buy a pinata if it would make you feel better

I do like candy.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

No one forgets that we needed a TD. The problem is the coaching staff picked the dumbest of all plays to try to get that TD. That pass play was the play that had the most unfavorable outcomes for the Cowboys. Largely because it's a pass play that historically is one of the least successful in football.

That pass play has not been an unsuccessful play for the Cowboys in the Dez era.

Try again

 

[waving monkey]

Sometimes it doesn't matter who the coach is. He has put us in position to win several times and the players have blown it. He can't control Twill or Dez dropping passes on perfectly called plays. He can't control the fact that the "GM" and front office got rid of our leading tackler and entire secondary and replaced them with a bunch of rookies. If people want to point fingers, look at Jerry.

It wasn't but a few months ago everyone was ecstatic about letting our entire secondary walk. I said be careful what you wish for. I'm not saying they would have been a shut down secondary but theu would have been better than what's out there now IMO, especially Church.

I hear ya thats all true but it was longer thinking then just this year
How much support did any of those players get here on zoners.
We struggle till we get better

 

[waving monkey]

I do like candy.

OK that was funny