Garrett as a lameduck

[Redball Express]

I think most of us can agree that his biggest strength is being a motivator. He seems to be a leader of men. He seems to have intangibles that haven't translated to success on the field. Now, going in to the season, he is a lame duck. He's on his final year of his deal.

How will this affect his status in the locker room? We he command as much respect when the players know he might not be back next season? Let's say the team is halfway through the season at 4-4. Will he still be able to motivate them?

What success will he need to get an extension? If they start off hot, going 4-0, will Jerry reup him right away? If the team manages to win a playoff game, will Garrett stay?

You are asking too many variables..

If this..then that.


Way too linear for me.

I think Garrett has been saddled by some teams with shockly poor talent.

And I think..or hope..

Most of us know this now.

And Jerrah has really broken down as the owner/GM.

We all see that.

So I'm not sure Garrett is really that lame duck.

I think the whole team is LAMEDUCK.

The last 3 years they step back when they need to step up.

So Garrett is responsible..

but is he at fault?

I think not.

The players and the ownership have really just disappeared compared to past standards.

So Garrett. On Hot Seat.?

I think Jerrah is on the hot seat.

If he has to end up firing Garrett..

I'd be very concerned that no self-respecting HC candidate would come to Dallas.

Then what.?

Garrett needs to show this season what he has learned the last 5 years..

Now is the time.

 

[OhSnap]

If they have another "here we go again" year on defense where they get lit up every week it might not matter who the HC is. Rah rah rah only works for so long.

 

[car351]

You are asking too many variables..

If this..then that.


Way too linear for me.

I think Garrett has been saddled by some teams with shockly poor talent.

And I think..or hope..

Most of us know this now.

And Jerrah has really broken down as the owner/GM.

We all see that.

So I'm not sure Garrett is really that lame duck.

I think the whole team is LAMEDUCK.

The last 3 years they step back when they need to step up.

So Garrett is responsible..

but is he at fault?

I think not.

The players and the ownership have really just disappeared compared to past standards.

So Garrett. On Hot Seat.?

I think Jerrah is on the hot seat.

If he has to end up firing Garrett..

I'd be very concerned that no self-respecting HC candidate would come to Dallas.

Then what.?

Garrett needs to show this season what he has learned the last 5 years..

Now is the time.

Nice breakdown. Also, Jerry was the one who did the whole "head coach in waiting" thing before Wade was even hired and who can forget that fiasco.

By Jason failing, is a hit to Jerry's ego that he chose the wrong coach and who's to say he won't keep his lil ol' trainee around 'till he sees it pay off his investment right? Or he said something like that wasn't it? I mean gosh forbid Jerry to publicly acknowledge that he originally hired a pretty good def. coordinator in Rob, had 2 to 3 dafts geared towards Rob's 3-4 dee, and then after suffering a year of crazy injuries, arbitrarily fires Rob, switches schemes without the proper players that match and then hints that he 'might' have made a mistake at firing Rob.

Hmmmmmmm, prolly be a cold day in you know where that he'd admit that his "Red Ball Experiment" was a failure too. Like Switzer said on the podium, "He's gonna do it his way, baby!"

 

[RS12]

He is done here if no playoffs in 2014. Simple as that.

 

[Redball Express]

Nice breakdown. Also, Jerry was the one who did the whole "head coach in waiting" thing before Wade was even hired and who can forget that fiasco.

By Jason failing, is a hit to Jerry's ego that he chose the wrong coach and who's to say he won't keep his lil ol' trainee around 'till he sees it pay off his investment right? Or he said something like that wasn't it? I mean gosh forbid Jerry to publicly acknowledge that he originally hired a pretty good def. coordinator in Rob, had 2 to 3 dafts geared towards Rob's 3-4 dee, and then after suffering a year of crazy injuries, arbitrarily fires Rob, switches schemes without the proper players that match and then hints that he 'might' have made a mistake at firing Rob.

Hmmmmmmm, prolly be a cold day in you know where that he'd admit that his "Red Ball Experiment" was a failure too. Like Switzer said on the podium, "He's gonna do it his way, baby!"

This.

I used to think I understood the problems with the team..

and wanted to believe/think/hope we were only a couple of players..

or a couple of coaches away from being good again.

But unfortunately in the same amount of times as the Jints have won 2 SBs..

the Skins won the division in 2012 and the Iggles in 2013..

the 9ers have completely rebuilt,

Seattle has quietly leaped to the Football World Lead.

And in order to catch them..

we may actually have to lose in order to get higher draft picks to accelerate the rebuilding.

Which by letting Romo go after next season would help insure some losing since without him..

however bad he can be at times..

..the team probably wouldn't win much in the transition with no Romo.

I have no idea what is going to happen.

 

[durrrr]

I've given Garrett a lot of rope, but it's going to take a huge shift in his performance for me to want him back.

How can you be the most conservative coach on 4th down in the entire league (which is awful in itself) when you have one of the worst defenses in the entire league?

At times it seems like he's actively making decisions with a negative expected value. Abandoning the run for halves at a time. Making a habit of airing it out on 3rd and short (and then punting).

He seems to have no real philosophy and fails to grasp the big picture. I'm ready for a new regime.

 

[Doomsay]

I wouldn't be so sure. Just because the changes haven't translated into more wins doesn't mean that they might not see the long-term picture.

Same coaching mistakes have translated into non-playoff seasons in a gimmie division, what other picture would you like to paint?

 

[Doomsay]

So if someone would be so kind, can you please illustrate what it is that causes one to think Garrett is a motivator?

He doesn't chuckle like his predecessor, he repeats his inane mantra with conviction and stares big eyed into the camera implying a sense of confidence.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I think most of us can agree that his biggest strength is being a motivator. He seems to be a leader of men. He seems to have intangibles that haven't translated to success on the field. Now, going in to the season, he is a lame duck. He's on his final year of his deal.

How will this affect his status in the locker room? We he command as much respect when the players know he might not be back next season? Let's say the team is halfway through the season at 4-4. Will he still be able to motivate them?

Seems like a question best asked the night before the season opener for the best answers to your questions. Six months is a long time. A lot can happen between now and then. It's very hard for me to imagine Jerry would allow a lame duck HC to begin the season knowing what that kind of negative situation could bring to his team.

 

[cml750]

A motivator?????? Seriously, Garrett a motivator????? That is just ridiculous to say something like that. I guess standing on the sideline clapping while he is screwing up the game time management is motivation now!!!

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

I thought motivators made teams play above/maximize their level of talent? What players fit that mold on this team? Harris...Selvie?

Garrett motivates his players to sleep thru his redundant, boring press conferences.

 

[daschoo]

He isn't any more lamesduck than any other Coach.
This is a year to year league.

With very few exceptions this is spot on.
Could also argue that if Garrett is out after this season then the players will be playing harder than ever so they keep their jobs when the new guy comes in.

 

[noshame]

If Garrett was a motivator and leader we wouldn't be having this conversation

 

[jterrell]

While I understand what you're saying, there's a difference between being in you last year of a contract or having 3 years left on a deal. At least the coach with 3 years left has some leverage (team not wanting to eat the remaining years) when management is making their decision, but when you're in JG's situation owed money doesn't even play a part in it, it's a clean break.

Ask Cleveland how much it matters if a guy is on the last year of his deal or not.

25% of the coaches in this league will have their contract status change in a 12 month period.
Some may get extensions with raises, many will get new jobs.
But in no way does that change that teams will carry X amount of players to every game and as a player you better get one of those spots or find a new profession.
Who the boss is just doesn't matter as much as fans like to believe.
Guys who play hard are going to play hard for anybody.
Guys who are bums are still bums even if a coach really gets them going for a bit.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If Garrett was a motivator and leader we wouldn't be having this conversation

Or a injury-preventing type HC either.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I think Garrett can be a very good coach but he needs to be in the right situation with a strong organizational philosophy. With Jerry as GM, I think his chances in Dallas are not good.

 

[noshame]

Or a injury-preventing type HC either.

Amen

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I don't see why he will be a lame duck. If the players really like like they say they do, they should work extra hard for him to make sure he succeeds gets gets his extension. Being the last year of Garretts deal should be extra motivation for the players. In theory anyway.

Garrett needs to win playoff games to get his extension. Getting in and losing isn't good enough to me.

who says they aren't working hard. but do we have enough talent? and that falls back on the GM, who now sees how he has screwed up once again, and stepping back saying I am going to let the coach clean it up and if he can't he will fire the coach.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I would like for someone to spell out what characteristics Garrett shows as a motivator. Empirical evidence that this guy can make players reach their apex and play together as a team.

One would suspect if there was a motivator in the group, Kiffin and Marinelli would both fit that bill. Their defense played above its talent level all year, and as things got worse, they gave more effort. Fact is, since the days of the dual head coach with Wade, I haven't seen much from Garrett as far as defense goes. That stands to reason since I am not privy to the inner workings. But I do not recall Garrett moving around the sidelines galvanizing his troops on defense, or the coaches.

As far as the offense goes, I would suggest Romo is closer to the motivator rather than the stoic Garrett. At least I see him talking with the team, chewing butt, congratulating, moving the pieces around.

So if someone would be so kind, can you please illustrate what it is that causes one to think Garrett is a motivator?

the defense played above their talent level? we were 32nd in the league. we were one of the worst defenses ever. we went two games without making one stop for a score....!!!! what games have you been watching. and yes we had trouble on the DL with injuries, but still yet, he had talent in other areas and they all underwhelmed.

and room is not the motivator, he is the part of the problem. jerry wanted room friendly offense and wanted room more involved in offensive game planning, thinking room is payton manning!!! and what did we get, a player who sees an 8 man front and immediately, without a doubt will change the play from run to pass. a player where stats show he is better from under center, but wants to be in shut gun formation all the time.

what garrett didn't do is rein in room's talent and manage it better. but then again.

there is no denying that we didn't quite have the talent base on this team, DL, OL, LB. we lacked where it counted. that's the GM doing a bad job. we are built outside in, with Claiborne, carr, dez, witten and Williams. and going 8-8 is a miracle with the defense that we had and the things we had to over come.

but then again, it sounds like you are part of the group that thinks if a coach doesn't yell or scream...he is not motivating.

 

[erod]

The "lame duck" thing doesn't apply anymore. Back in the old days, coaches were at teams for 4+ years regularly. Now, every coach is year-to-year, so the locker-room impact isn't the same anymore when a coach only has a year on his contract.

Most players these days don't really pay that much attention to their coaches anyway. Semi-guaranteed salaries do that.