Garrett as a lameduck

[ConstantReboot]

You're right, Jerry should have never hired Garrett. Redball deserves better. Garrett's only problem is he lacks HC experience but you are mistaken that he should not be a coach. In the right environment, one with a strong organizational philosophy, Garrett's system eventually would produce. I have no doubt that he will be in demand if the 2014 season does not go well for him.

As for coaches not wanting to coach the Cowboys; once again I believe you are incorrect. It's the story of the unobtainable treasure: the allure of acquiring it is too great to pass up. Kind of like the average guy/girl going after the super model. You have to try.

Garrett may be a terrible coach but it's only because Jerry made him that way. You can believe, however, that there will be plenty of candidates lining up if Garrett is unable to make the playoffs in 2014.

Garrett would not have been a coach if it weren't for Jerry. Him promoting him to a head coach of America's team was another one of those blunders which keeps putting this team into a downward spiral. Jerry is a terrible GM who makes terrible decisions and making Garrett a coach so he can learn how to coach was a very bad move.

America's team deserves better. I wish we would have had Chip Kelly or even Andy Reid. They would have faired better here because they know how to coach. But not Garrett.

Garrett record speak for itself. He is nothing more than mediocre. Just like when he was an OC. He was mediocre. He may do better someplace else. But Jerry did not make Garrett a terrible coach. Garrett doesn't have coaching experience. Thus Garrett is not a product of Jerry. But a product of lacking the experience to coach and this is the result you get when you hire a coach with no coaching experience.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Garrett would not have been a coach if it weren't for Jerry. Him promoting him to a head coach of America's team was another one of those blunders which keeps putting this team into a downward spiral. Jerry is a terrible GM who makes terrible decisions and making Garrett a coach so he can learn how to coach was a very bad move.

America's team deserves better. I wish we would have had Chip Kelly or even Andy Reid. They would have faired better here because they know how to coach. But not Garrett.

Garrett record speak for itself. He is nothing more than mediocre. Just like when he was an OC. He was mediocre. He may do better someplace else. But Jerry did not make Garrett a terrible coach. Garrett doesn't have coaching experience. Thus Garrett is not a product of Jerry. But a product of lacking the experience to coach and this is the result you get when you hire a coach with no coaching experience.

Amazingly, I agree with everything you say except the part where you mention Garrett was a mediocre OC and his results as a HC are not influenced by the GM. Yes, he lacks experience but it's a challenge to achieve success when you are weighed down by the yoke of Big Jerry looking over your shoulder changing the playing field whenever he gets the whim. Any success Garrett may achieve will be by his own hand and it will be in spite of Jerry.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I am sure the Ravens faithful are so glad that Jason turned them down & they ended up with Harbaugh. He is a much better coach than Jason.

I am sure they are. but that's not the point. he was offered a head coaching job. a lot of head coaches turn out not be good, thus that's why there are so many turnovers in the NFL.

so to say he wouldn't have been a head coach, if not for Jerry, is not correct. and perhaps, if he was with the ravens, with a GM like Ozzie and owner like Biscotti, club house leaders like Reed, Lewis, Flacco he would have found a lot more success. in dallas he is in the middle of a circus. going 8-8 is a big feat onto itself.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I am sure they are. but that's not the point. he was offered a head coaching job. a lot of head coaches turn out not be good, thus that's why there are so many turnovers in the NFL.

so to say he wouldn't have been a head coach, if not for Jerry, is not correct. and perhaps, if he was with the ravens, with a GM like Ozzie and owner like Biscotti, club house leaders like Reed, Lewis, Flacco he would have found a lot more success. in dallas he is in the middle of a circus. going 8-8 is a big feat onto itself.

I don't agree. I think he'd be awful anywhere. We'll never know but I know they are happy he skipped on the job there & well here we are going into whatever year of him being our coach. I will be glad when he's gone.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I don't agree. I think he'd be awful anywhere. We'll never know but I know they are happy he skipped on the job there & well here we are going into whatever year of him being our coach. I will be glad when he's gone.

I think he still has room to grow as a coach, but he has been in difficult situation. the proof is that no coach under jerry has succeeded since Jimmy and we have had quite a few come and go. Garrett does need some mentoring and some support from a good GM to help him get there, which he doesn't have here. there are very few coaches in the NFL that can work without that support (billichek, jim harbaugh come to mind). John Harbaugh in Baltimore has Ozzie, perhaps the best GM in the NFL. put him here and he would have failed, probably as bad as garrett if not worse.

I think garret is a lame duck because Jerry drove the team to this point, with his assenine moves, and now, when the shiet is really close to hitting the fan he is stepping back and letting the coach "fix it", "look I am letting the coach make the decisions". If it works, great. he steps right back in. if it doesn't he will blame the coach. fire him, make the fans such as yourself happy. bring in the next coach, "create Hope" (which is what jerry does every year) and we go through the cycle again.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I think he still has room to grow as a coach, but he has been in difficult situation. the proof is that no coach under jerry has succeeded since Jimmy and we have had quite a few come and go. Garrett does need some mentoring and some support from a good GM to help him get there, which he doesn't have here. there are very few coaches in the NFL that can work without that support (billichek, jim harbaugh come to mind). John Harbaugh in Baltimore has Ozzie, perhaps the best GM in the NFL. put him here and he would have failed, probably as bad as garrett if not worse.

I think garret is a lame duck because Jerry drove the team to this point, with his assenine moves, and now, when the shiet is really close to hitting the fan he is stepping back and letting the coach "fix it", "look I am letting the coach make the decisions". If it works, great. he steps right back in. if it doesn't he will blame the coach. fire him, make the fans such as yourself happy. bring in the next coach, "create Hope" (which is what jerry does every year) and we go through the cycle again.

This is what I want in a head coach. A guy who does not need mentoring or training. A guy with some football smarts & the ability to make decisions quickly.

It's ridiculous that the freaking Dallas Cowboys are coached by a guy their owner says need on the job training.

 

[Aven8]

I think he still has room to grow as a coach, but he has been in difficult situation. the proof is that no coach under jerry has succeeded since Jimmy and we have had quite a few come and go. Garrett does need some mentoring and some support from a good GM to help him get there, which he doesn't have here. there are very few coaches in the NFL that can work without that support (billichek, jim harbaugh come to mind). John Harbaugh in Baltimore has Ozzie, perhaps the best GM in the NFL. put him here and he would have failed, probably as bad as garrett if not worse.

I think garret is a lame duck because Jerry drove the team to this point, with his assenine moves, and now, when the shiet is really close to hitting the fan he is stepping back and letting the coach "fix it", "look I am letting the coach make the decisions". If it works, great. he steps right back in. if it doesn't he will blame the coach. fire him, make the fans such as yourself happy. bring in the next coach, "create Hope" (which is what jerry does every year) and we go through the cycle again.

I while I agree with you about Jerry, you will never convince me Jason is a good coach. His coaching has showed well before he was the HC. His offense puts up numbers, thanks to Romo, but his offenses have always been a mess. With the exception of last year, and when Sparano was here. What a coincidence.

The dude sucks. Atlanta and Balty dodged a bullet. The rams fans made the decision easy for there owner when they said they would cancel season tickets if he was hired.

Jerry will never change, but at least he can bring in a HC with skins and backbone and try to turn it around like Parcells did.

 

[cml750]

I while I agree with you about Jerry, you will never convince me Jason is a good coach. His coaching has showed well before he was the HC. His offense puts up numbers, thanks to Romo, but his offenses have always been a mess. With the exception of last year, and when Sparano was here. What a coincidence.

The dude sucks. Atlanta and Balty dodged a bullet. The rams fans made the decision easy for there owner when they said they would cancel season tickets if he was hired.

Jerry will never change, but at least he can bring in a HC with skins and backbone and try to turn it around like Parcells did.

Right on all counts, Garrett sucks and while Jerry is a huge problem with this team, that problem is not going anywhere so we need a good coach to help overcome the Jerry problem. Sadly we will waste another season on Garrett while the window of opportunity is slamming shut.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I know exactly who he is. Just laughing at your putting stock in him or any other media type.

Then why did you ask "who the hell is Rowan"?

Like I said, Jerry signs his paycheck so if he says players are quitting on Garrett, I guess Jerry has no problem with it.

 

[Aven8]

Right on all counts, Garrett sucks and while Jerry is a huge problem with this team, that problem is not going anywhere so we need a good coach to help overcome the Jerry problem. Sadly we will waste another season on Garrett while the window of opportunity is slamming shut.

Slamming shut is right. Romo, Ware, Witt,......just not enough.

This sucks.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

This is what I want in a head coach. A guy who does not need mentoring or training. A guy with some football smarts & the ability to make decisions quickly.

It's ridiculous that the freaking Dallas Cowboys are coached by a guy their owner says need on the job training.

every great coach has had on the job training. carroll and billicheck failed in their first attempts. but its obvious what a strong organizational structure has done for both.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I while I agree with you about Jerry, you will never convince me Jason is a good coach. His coaching has showed well before he was the HC. His offense puts up numbers, thanks to Romo, but his offenses have always been a mess. With the exception of last year, and when Sparano was here. What a coincidence.

The dude sucks. Atlanta and Balty dodged a bullet. The rams fans made the decision easy for there owner when they said they would cancel season tickets if he was hired.

Jerry will never change, but at least he can bring in a HC with skins and backbone and try to turn it around like Parcells did.

saparano didn't do that good without Jason and he had full control of things, so lets not go there. sparano wasn't all that.

and we have had a parade of coaches. none since jimmy have found success in dallas. so we are doomed until jerry steps down (or passes away, go rest his soul).

 

[BoysFan4ever]

every great coach has had on the job training. carroll and billicheck failed in their first attempts. but its obvious what a strong organizational structure has done for both.

You completely missed my point. They need to hire a guy WITH experience & put this lame "training" Garrett to bed. He's been here for what 4 years? He is in way over his head.

 

[TheFinisher]

Ranked 24 out of 25 returning Head Coaches


24. Jason Garrett

Career Record: 29-27 (.518)

With The Cowboys Since: 2010


Jason Garrett is perhaps the NFL’s most affable gent. Relentlessly positive, he never lets the world — or Jerry Jones — get him down. The problem? Aside from that, it’s entirely unclear what he does. He doesn’t call his own plays. He doesn’t get to choose his own assistants. He definitely doesn’t lead the Cowboys to the playoffs. He does get to call timeouts and manage the clock, which he frequently does poorly. Of course, it’s possible he doesn’t even do that. Maybe ‘ol Jer has a set of levers and buttons he controls from the owner’s box. The point is, if you asked Garrett“what would you say … you do here?”, he wouldn’t have a good answer. Which means he isn’t the answer for the Cowboys. Which means Cowboys fans will be forced to endure another year of a failed marriage in 2014. Which means that for all his affability, all Garrett is really providing is pain and suffering.

 

[TheFinisher]

The only thing Garrett does well is being able to remain likeable in the media and has an uncanny ability to find scapegoat after scapegoat to deflect enough blame to barely save his job year after year.

The ultimate snake.

 

[TheFinisher]

His legacy will be how he accomplished blowing some of the largest leads in NFL history and being revolutionary in how he blows games with mismanagement, including icing his own kicker.

 

[jterrell]

Garrett would not have been a coach if it weren't for Jerry. Him promoting him to a head coach of America's team was another one of those blunders which keeps putting this team into a downward spiral. Jerry is a terrible GM who makes terrible decisions and making Garrett a coach so he can learn how to coach was a very bad move.

America's team deserves better. I wish we would have had Chip Kelly or even Andy Reid. They would have faired better here because they know how to coach. But not Garrett.

Garrett record speak for itself. He is nothing more than mediocre. Just like when he was an OC. He was mediocre. He may do better someplace else. But Jerry did not make Garrett a terrible coach. Garrett doesn't have coaching experience. Thus Garrett is not a product of Jerry. But a product of lacking the experience to coach and this is the result you get when you hire a coach with no coaching experience.

Not sure how this got any likes because it is patently false.
While Garrett has been fairly poor in this learn on the job experiment and also didn't have much in the way of OC record to suggest him for said title...
he was OFFERED OTHER HEAD COACHING JOBS.
Including that of the Ravens who have by all accounts a top 5 front office.

The situation with Garrett is so plain and simple it is absolutely pointless to continue to cry about it.
The team wins or he leaves. That's it.
Deal is up, no need to fire him, no need to do anything begin vetting new Coaches whenever it becomes apparent next season is a wash.
Knowing Jerry he will have his handy list ready before game 1.


But to repeat, not only would Garrett have had another Head Coaching job if not for Jerry, he'll have another after Jerry fires him if that happens.

 

[TwoDeep3]

One wonders with the results he has turned in if he would still be with the Ravens, or on the street looking for an OC job?

 

[Risen Star]

One wonders with the results he has turned in if he would still be with the Ravens, or on the street looking for an OC job?

One has to wonder if the results would have been different under sane ownership and a real GM in Baltimore.

 

[Hostile]

Bet he isn't.