Garrett: Doesn't matter who starts at RB

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It doesn't matter who starts because nether have stood out which may not be a good sign. I believe one of the backs has to emerge into the go to back during the season someone the team can depend on especially in the 4th quarter to help keep a drive alive.
 

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@jonmachota: Jason Garrett on who starts at running back: "It doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is everybody getting ready to play."

But then....

@jonmachota: Joseph Randle working with the first-team offense

Hey Garrett who is the coach of the Dallas Cowboys?

Garrett "It doesnt matter".
 

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Broaddus made a comment in this weeks Star Magazine. That the Broncos proved in the early 2000's, that the offensive front proved to be more important than the RB, if the RB fit your system.
I think that is our situation here. Though it's been debated, and over debated, and debated again, and again. But still I think that is what we have here. The coaches will use them the right way. May take a few games to get it really going, but it will happen.

Really? Because I remember a bunch of 1,000 yard rushers that came through that system, but only one was able to help the team to the SB. Terrell Davis. Forget stats, I want wins. And that will all depend on how this crew of running backs performs in the redzone. The rest is just noise.
 

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I used to often wonder if the Broncos were so successful with their zone blocking scheme, why other teams didn't copy it. They would plug and play any running back in that scheme, and he'd end up carrying plus 1,000 yards.

I would imagine the Dallas blocking scheme this year incorporates many of those principles given that Pollack coached under Kubiak.
 

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Translation: I'm not giving them anything to prepare for and I reserve the right to change my mind based on the situation..

One week Randle looked good, the next week McFadden looked better. It just depends on who we are playing, who is healthy, and what scheme works best..

Having said all that Randle is the starter, duh..;)
 

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Really? Because I remember a bunch of 1,000 yard rushers that came through that system, but only one was able to help the team to the SB. Terrell Davis. Forget stats, I want wins. And that will all depend on how this crew of running backs performs in the redzone. The rest is just noise.


It still comes down to the QB as well. I can't remember many Denver QB's after Elway retired...Jake Plummmer for awhile? The team saw it's biggest drop off when Elway retired, the running game was still stellar.
 

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It still comes down to the QB as well. I can't remember many Denver QB's after Elway retired...Jake Plummmer for awhile? The team saw it's biggest drop off when Elway retired, the running game was still stellar.

Yes, and we're obviously set there. Romo is a SB quality QB and then some. But I am seriously starting to worry about this running game and our identity. It seems we have replaced the speed of Murray with McFadden and the power of Murray with Michael. The problem is, Murray had speed and power in the same package, not two different packages. Given that there is only one ball to carry, that's kind of important.
 

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I would love for the Cowboys to open rushing for 200+ yards just to shut everyone up already.

I'd love it too. But after looking at that Giants secondary...well, you HAVE to exploit that gift.
Hey, maybe we run for 200 and pass for 300?
 

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Yes, and we're obviously set there. Romo is a SB quality QB and then some. But I am seriously starting to worry about this running game and our identity. It seems we have replaced the speed of Murray with McFadden and the power of Murray with Michael. The problem is, Murray had speed and power in the same package, not two different packages. Given that there is only one ball to carry, that's kind of important.

Also, I hope one of them doesn't get Romo killed back there......
 

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Yes, and we're obviously set there. Romo is a SB quality QB and then some. But I am seriously starting to worry about this running game and our identity. It seems we have replaced the speed of Murray with McFadden and the power of Murray with Michael. The problem is, Murray had speed and power in the same package, not two different packages. Given that there is only one ball to carry, that's kind of important.

But you're contracting yourself. First you admit that Denver used to plug and play rb and they all would get 1000 + in rushing, but not wins. Then someone countered with the fact that they had no qb. You admit that we have a SB quality qb but then say you worry about our running game. But did we not establish up top how Denver could plug and play rb because of the system? We can have that same quality running game but with a top tier qb imo. We will find out come this Sunday
 

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Yes, and we're obviously set there. Romo is a SB quality QB and then some. But I am seriously starting to worry about this running game and our identity. It seems we have replaced the speed of Murray with McFadden and the power of Murray with Michael. The problem is, Murray had speed and power in the same package, not two different packages. Given that there is only one ball to carry, that's kind of important.


I don't disagree with your conclusion but I do disagree about the speed of Demarco Murray. He had a little burst but if he was still here, he would be the slowest back on our roster.
 

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But you're contracting yourself. First you admit that Denver used to plug and play rb and they all would get 1000 + in rushing, but not wins. Then someone countered with the fact that they had no qb. You admit that we have a SB quality qb but then say you worry about our running game. But did we not establish up top how Denver could plug and play rb because of the system? We can have that same quality running game but with a top tier qb imo. We will find out come this Sunday

How am I contradicting myself? Denver had a great offensive line and philosophy and allowed guys like Olandis Gary (!) to run for over 1,000 yards. But they weren't game-changing yards, they looked good in the stat book. And make no mistake about it, Denver did not win those SBs because of Elway, he played terribly in those games. They won because they had a legit superstar RB in Terrell Davis, who was deadly in the red zone. I think yardage-wise, our rushing attack will look very good, maybe even matching the output from last year. But again, most of that yardage is noise, it means nothing, because most of it comes between the 20s. The real question is, can we get that same red zone, penetrating rushing attack we had last year, with our current crop of running backs? Yes, Romo obviously helps because he is one of the elite QBs in the game today, but without red zone efficiency from a running game, even the great QBs can only do so much.
 

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How am I contradicting myself? Denver had a great offensive line and philosophy and allowed guys like Olandis Gary (!) to run for over 1,000 yards. But they weren't game-changing yards, they looked good in the stat book. And make no mistake about it, Denver did not win those SBs because of Elway, he played terribly in those games. They won because they had a legit superstar RB in Terrell Davis, who was deadly in the red zone. I think yardage-wise, our rushing attack will look very good, maybe even matching the output from last year. But again, most of that yardage is noise, it means nothing, because most of it comes between the 20s. The real question is, can we get that same red zone, penetrating rushing attack we had last year, with our current crop of running backs? Yes, Romo obviously helps because he is one of the elite QBs in the game today, but without red zone efficiency from a running game, even the great QBs can only do so much.

Who is to say the running game loses its efficiency inside the red zone? The play action threat of dez and twill still exists. Not to mention whatever the RBs make on their own.
 

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I don't disagree with your conclusion but I do disagree about the speed of Demarco Murray. He had a little burst but if he was still here, he would be the slowest back on our roster.

I think his speed is underrated, partly because of how fluid he is. Did he gas on some of those long runs? Sure. But the man has wheels.
 

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Who is to say the running game loses its efficiency inside the red zone? The play action threat of dez and twill still exists. Not to mention whatever the RBs make on their own.

Dez's greatest value is his red zone ability. It is what makes him one of the top two or three WRs in the league today. When you've got an imposing WR who can physically dominate one-on-one matchups in the red zone AND a running back who can exert his will on a defense with his punishing style, you have the 2014 Dallas Cowboys offense, an offense that almost (and should have) carried them straight to the SB. This year, we've got Dez and a whole lot of questions. Again, I could not care less how Randle and Co. look between the 20s, I want to see how they perform inside the 20s. If they're capable, we're on our way. If not, we're in trouble.
 

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Dez's greatest value is his red zone ability. It is what makes him one of the top two or three WRs in the league today. When you've got an imposing WR who can physically dominate one-on-one matchups in the red zone AND a running back who can exert his will on a defense with his punishing style, you have the 2014 Dallas Cowboys offense, an offense that almost (and should have) carried them straight to the SB. This year, we've got Dez and a whole lot of questions. Again, I could not care less how Randle and Co. look between the 20s, I want to see how they perform inside the 20s. If they're capable, we're on our way. If not, we're in trouble.

And for what it's worth, I don't mean "miss the playoffs" kind of trouble, I mean "win the SB" kind of trouble. Given the incredible additions on the defensive side of the ball and Romo's greatness, this team could make the playoffs,even with a bottom-half running attack. Winning the SB is a different story. And frankly, there is only one right answer to this season, it's SB or bust as far as I'm concerned. Nothing else matters.
 
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