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lol, so your point of view is that the offense has been consistently good. Okay, sounds good, thanks for the input.

lol, yep.

2014: 2nd
2013: 4th
2012: 10th
2011: 8th

Here's where we ranked the four years under Garrett with Romo primarily in the lineup on a points/offensive series basis. (For the curious, we were 11th in 2010 and 27th in 2015). Top 10 every season and trending upward. Weird that it doesn't match up with your eye test.
 

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Not that .500 football is anything to be happy or proud about, but how do people pretend we've been a "laughingstock" for the last 20 years when the results are so clearly and obviously "average"?

Being .500 sucks but it doesn't suck as bad as being .450 or .400 or .350. We haven't been good but we've been far from a laughingstock. It only seems that way because the media attention is magnified with the Cowboys. Just wish more fans understood that elementary concept.

So we should be happy with 500? That is an interesting angle.
 

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lol, yep.

2014: 2nd
2013: 4th
2012: 10th
2011: 8th

Here's where we ranked the four years under Garrett with Romo primarily in the lineup on a points/offensive series basis. (For the curious, we were 11th in 2010 and 27th in 2015). Top 10 every season and trending upward. Weird that it doesn't match up with your eye test.

What were we ranked in 2015? Why would you leave out the most recent season?
 

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with another team with him being able to have the players he wants I sure garrett would be better than he is here. He don't always have that here in dallas.
 

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I really wanted Garrett to work out. I still hope he does, but besides everything coming together in 2014, his reign has been pretty disappointing. Unfortunately, I think we will look back at the Romo years with some regret that we have had so little playoff success with an elite or near elite QB. When you find that QB, that is when you typically win. I hope I am wrong and Romo can have more success in the playoffs.

JJ and JG wasted Romo's prime w lack of innovation and incorporating tactics that other successful passing offenses do w Franchise QBs; NE, NO, GB, IND, etc. to hide poor to average Defenses and are now trying to get every last drop out of him until he can't produce anymore. They NOW acknowledge the over reliance on Romo to make the O functional at a high rate and making the O less predictable as if that couldn't have happened starting in 2011; bad D's and all we still lost every "win and your in" game to make the playoffs for 3 consecutive seasons. It was a common theme that opponents knew our plays but it came down to "execution;franchise QB". Now they want to start to build on Romo's abilities via help in the draft...that time has past.
 
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True but that is not how many fans felt during those early years with Landry, many wanted him gone. I agree it was an expansion team but none the less fans did not care and Murchison response to it was to sign Landry to a 10 year deal.

As for any other comparisons they do not exist at this time, you can't compare a man who has already had his run over many years to a guy who is still early in his career.

5 YRS is a pretty good indicator IMO

.500 record
 

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You said the two were equally as bad.

Romo has broken every passing record in existence. Murray broke Emmitt's season rushing record. Witten has broken all sorts of records, and receivers have been made millionaires in free agency.

I will agree that the offense was extremely one-dimensional prior to building the offensive line.

But no, the defense hasn't been anywhere on par with the offense. I give you Dallas 48, Denver 51 as example, as well as countless other 30-point efforts that went as losses.

Bad example! The offense was just as much to blame as the defense. Turning a two score lead early into a game because we refused to run. Romo had two costly Ints that game that led the Broncos comeback or sealed the game for Denver. From 3rd down woes to refusing to run consistently, the 2010-13 offense was just as inconsistent as the defense sans 2013!
 

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5 YRS is a pretty good indicator IMO

.500 record

I'm not defending Garrett or coming down on him. I have no agenda in this. This past season was poor no excuse and he deserves blame, 2014 was a good year for this team and I give him credit. What happens this season who is too say but good or bad it will fall on Garrett. Now of course his critics will claim any success is because of someone else any failure will fall directly on him. Me I don't do that BS good or bad it is on Garrett.
 

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If that's true, than the front office is to blame for giving him that massive contract. I don't think that's the case at all though. They can't develop a second TE. It took them how long to actually use Dunbar the way they kept saying they would? Garrett has no desire to create mismatches on offense. It goes against his logic. He is a line up and beat the guy across from you coach. Moving Dez and/or anyone else around simply adds more variables to an equation that Garrett is already stupefied by when the game is actually in motion.

It appears to me, Garrett coaches scared and is too conservative
 

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This team, for a long time, relied way too heavily on Romo's Jedi mind tricks.

Now there's a REAL offensive line finally. Hopefully, they didn't beat Romo up to much to take advantage in the end.

Like the ones where he throws it to the other team for no damn reason. Great mind trick to finish that moral victory we won vs Denver you mentioned. Less Romo has always been more!!
 

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Bad example! The offense was just as much to blame as the defense. Turning a two score lead early into a game because we refused to run. Romo had two costly Ints that game that led the Broncos comeback or sealed the game for Denver. From 3rd down woes to refusing to run consistently, the 2010-13 offense was just as inconsistent as the defense sans 2013!

But it was just good enough to seem like they were trying...:D;)$$$$$ We easily make the playoffs w wins over DET and GB (13' I think?). That is a given.
 

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What were we ranked in 2015? Why would you leave out the most recent season?

Or why does he leave out 3rd down conversion rates, which we struggled mightily in 2012-13 and couldn't sustain drives. Or the fact that were putting up gaudy yards but no points to match the offensive output. The offense was predictable and stale and hell Benton passing g when it knew the defense was subpar,but oh well let's look good on offense with no strategy to protect the defense!
 

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I personally think Garrett has done a good job. I thought when he was hired, he would put a plan together that would have us competitive over the long haul. I think he has done that. He spent the first few years, shredding old players, bad contracts and no FA money and was still competitive, that's pretty impressive. I thought the coaching job in 2013 was fantastic, even though it was just an 8-8 season, to win 8 games with that team and all the injuries was pretty amazing. In 2014, I thought we saw the plan coming together and was looking forward to 2015 but then again the injuries hit and without good QB play, no team is going to win a lot in today's NFL. Garrett is a good coach and I look forward to this up coming season expecting a complete rebound from 2015, assuming we stay fairly healthy.

Good post.

He's had his issues, namely with it taking too long to assemble his staff, and with the false start he had on the defensive coordinators. He's had to learn to get better on game days, and I think it's fair to say that Linehan, at least, is a better play caller than Jason is, though Jason's not anywhere near as bad a play caller as some want to believe.

Where Jason shines is in putting together a young team with a clean cap and dedication to building through the draft and not succumbing to the temptation to reach for players in FA. He works well with Stephen and, more importantly, Jerry. He handles the difficult Dallas press well, and basically just runs the team respectably and keeps them focussed on the things that matter. Maybe we fell short in 2013, maybe, but I agree that the 8-8 seasons in 2010-2012 are nothing at all for him to be apologizing for. That was good production from a thoroughly mediocre roster that was the legacy of some really bad drafting after Parcels left.
 

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Good post.

He's had his issues, namely with it taking too long to assemble his staff, and with the false start he had on the defensive coordinators. He's had to learn to get better on game days, and I think it's fair to say that Linehan, at least, is a better play caller than Jason is, though Jason's not anywhere near as bad a play caller as some want to believe.

Where Jason shines is in putting together a young team with a clean cap and dedication to building through the draft and not succumbing to the temptation to reach for players in FA. He works well with Stephen and, more importantly, Jerry. He handles the difficult Dallas press well, and basically just runs the team respectably and keeps them focussed on the things that matter. Maybe we fell short in 2013, maybe, but I agree that the 8-8 seasons in 2010-2012 are nothing at all for him to be apologizing for. That was good production from a thoroughly mediocre roster that was the legacy of some really bad drafting after Parcels left.

Jason Garrett has shined at absolutely nothing. Jason Garrett doesnt put together the team. Its simply not his job here. And its quite clear to anyone with open eyes that has been Romo making this team and Garrett even remotely competent.

Garrett has bombed as the head coach here.
 

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Ah yes, 27th in offense in 2015. That doesnt seem trending up to me.

They have been trending upward except for last season where you did not even notice before commenting on but I would think even in your zeal to try and get a sick burn on him and still complain about it that you do realize we did not have the top QB, WR and RB playing in the majority of the games from the previous season.

But...oh boy you got him good...like Farva getting the rookie cop by putting a soap bar in his coffee.
 
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